The Only Change in Sonnanstine's Gameplan: His Change
H/T to RaysParty for the handy 2008 season data.
First, the pitch types and Gameday-reported velocities:
| Velo | 2008 | 2009 |
| FA | 86.9 | 87 |
| FC | 87.2 | 86.7 |
| SL | 80.3 | 82.3 |
| CV | 73.6 | 75.3 |
| CH | 81.8 | 82.1 |
FC stands for cutter, CV for curve, and so on. There's minimal change: his slider and curve went slower last year, no idea why or if it was/is a conscious effort. Now his swinging strike rates per pitch.
| Year | Pitches | SwStr | % |
| 2008 | 1246 | 95 | 7.62 |
| 2009 | 1653 | 113 | 6.84 |
This is overall, I tried syncing up the amount of pitchers pretty evenly -- using half of Sonnanstine's starts from last year -- but it didn't work out quite to a 1:1 ratio.
| Year | FA | SwStr | % |
| 2008 | 391 | 11 | 2.81 |
| 2009 | 225 | 12 | 5.33 |
Sonny had more swinging strikes in ~170 less non-cutter fastballs this year. Last year the pitch was extremely hittable.
| Year | FC | SwStr | % |
| 2008 | 298 | 14 | 4.7 |
| 2009 | 650 | 37 | 5.69 |
Notice the increased usage in his cutter? It came with more whiffs too. I'm not sure what to think of his reliance on it quite yet.
| Year | CV | SwStr | % |
| 2008 | 291 | 47 | 16.15 |
| 2009 | 327 | 31 | 9.48 |
Say what you want about his overall arsenal, but very, very few pitches can be thrown 300 times in a season and whiffed at more than 15% of the time. Sonny's curveball is easily his best pitch. Easily.
| Year | SL | SwStr | % |
| 2008 | 127 | 11 | 8.66 |
| 2009 | 406 | 31 | 7.64 |
His slider might be his second best pitch. Increased usage, decreased whiff rate.
| Year | CH | SwStr | % |
| 2008 | 137 | 12 | 8.76 |
| 2009 | 33 | 1 | 3.03 |
Here's the mystery. His change-up would be the only non-two-seamer pitch that runs towards righties, yet he dumped it. This after the buzz about a "new and improved" version of the pitch in spring. Why did he dump it? FanGraphs run values weren't too kind to the pitch, but those are defensive dependant. My inner scout chirps about dumping a presumably somewhat deceptive pitch. Maybe it was a confidence thing.
Now, let's look at where Sonnanstine is throwing the baseball within the zone versus last year.

Notice much of a difference? Yeah, there doesn't appear to be one. Some slight percentage changes on the right side, but otherwise Sonny's locational gameplan appears to be the same. How about against right-handed batters though?

Again, some minimal shifting.
I may end up digging deeper into the location bag -- say, by pitch, maybe by count, etc. -- but for now, there's not a lot of smoke coming from this fire.
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Because there seems to be little wrong in terms of the quality of his pitches (from what I can tell his curveball has improved from 08 to 09 in terms of break)
and, while the logic is admittedly flawed, I can’t find anything other than the heavy increase in cutter usage and the abandonment of the changeup. I think there is little left to actually go through. Maybe its a pitch sequencing thing? I don’t know…
DId any of this look at pitches out of the zone?
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 29, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Serious question?
Does this graphs and location graphs and the like really interest y’all this much?
I’ve found some pretty neat advanced stats that i enjoy and am glad to have discovered through this site, but man this stuff is too much like homework
Yeah a lot of it is really interesting
Sometimes you just get in the zone while working on something and get really psyched to see what the answers are that get spit out
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 29, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, having been a pitcher, I love this stuff
It is very telling
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Sonny last year had the best season by a Ray not named Kaz or Shields
I’m curious as to why the massive dropoff. The fact he is a soft tosser may be enough to satisfy you. I need more.
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 29, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is one of the hardest questions to answer
Making it the most rewarding
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 29, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm an information whore.
Odds are I won’t find an answer, but not trying is harder than accepting that reality.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 29, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually put little stock in the pitch location graphs. I've never read/seen anything suggesting a change isn't random variation.
Also, considering that so many pitches are lost in this type of data analysis (pitches out of the zone) i’m not a huge fan of it. Thats not to say I don’t like graphs/tables in general, its more a specific quibble with this presentation of data.
by Navi's_Navy on Sep 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
hahha
It can feel like homework at times, great comment.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Sep 29, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Does B-Ref have a split for bearded starts vs. clean shaven starts
If that man doesn’t have a fu manchu or mutton chops he has no way of excelling.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 29, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I shit you not bro
Since no one reads fan shots, what are your thoughts on Sano to the Twinkies? Pretty surprising in my eyes
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 29, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
good point, I'm not sure where he's from, but tons of hype, it will be great to see him in Rochester if he makes it this far
or doesn’t skip it
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 29, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If he's even 16
He was quoted as saying that he’s going to bust his butt to get to the majors in 2 years, we’ll see
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 29, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I know you said you were planning on maybe looking at this, but I'm looking at the location charts and see that he increased usage down in the zone by 3% from year to year.
This could be (probably is) variance, but does anyone who is a little more experienced with pitch f/x in graph form know what pitches are getting pitched lower? The changeup, a pitch you’d expect to generally be low, is gone, so that means something had to have seen at least a marginal increase in usage down in the zone, this could be a problem (I can’t see how, but at this point I’m just looking for something to explain it).
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Sep 30, 2009 8:07 AM EDT reply actions
How about his out of zone pitches?
Also what if there is just a book on Sonny now. I know qualitative stuff isn’t big around here but perhaps traditional scouting caught up to sonny and now the hitters are better prepared. This could be a factor Especially considering his style
Can we get robots for umpires and a computer to make in game strategy decisions? I'm sick of inconsistently bad umpiring and Joe's pitiful in game management. Oh and Navi (and BJ) need some PED's. BenZo, Bartlett, and Pena do not.
by matthan on Sep 30, 2009 2:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The thing is that there is such a change in pitch usage that I find it hard to believe it was predicted by hitters/coaches coming into the season.
I mean, 20% more cutters and an abandonment of the change, not to mention slightl variations (generally in Sonny’s favor) on breaking ball speed/break, and I think it has to be more of an issue with pitch selection/sequencing than a result of traditional scouting. Although I haven’t done anything on my own, based off this chart I take away from it he is working more low in the zone (3% increase despite losing his changeup, a pitch that should/almost always is, thrown low in the zone), and maybe this is hurting him (I don’t know why it would).
I’m personally not averse to traditional scouting being a viable option when pitchers struggle, but in this case the relatively major change in arsenal seems to discredit that. Also, because Sonny’s arm angle is inconsistent (supposedly purposefully) I find it even harder to believe that he has fallen to better scouting. Also, I agree on the fact that because out of zone pitches are neglected here this kind of analysis is pretty incomplete. I still attest it is Sonny’s change of arsenal that has caused the negative play this year.
by Navi's_Navy on Sep 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions

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