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Is Wade Davis Ready For The Rays Rotation?

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At this point there is no correct answer to the question raised in the title of this article simply because we haven't seen Wade Davis pitch at this level. However, after Andy Sonnanstine's peformance Tuesday, the Rays have decided it's time to find out if he is. Davis has posted an FIP 3.81 so for this season for the Durham Bulls. Despite that number, anybody who thinks that Davis is going to walk in that door on Sunday and be a sub 4 FIP pitcher out of the gate is most likely going to end up disappointed.

Davis ranks 12th in the International League in swinging strike percentage amongst starters, however, he's in the top five in overall strikeouts with nearly 21% of at-bats ending in a K. Depending on where you get the numbers from, Davis is somewhere between 37-40% groundballs for the season. Our favorite guru, Rick Peterson, said the biggest evaluators of a starting pitcher are the ability to get swinging strikes and induce groundballs. If Davis can continue doing what he did at Durham this would definitely help in his transition to big league starter along with his mid 90s fastball and hammer curveball.

Davis, 23, has pitched 158.2 innings so far in Triple A this season. He pitched a combined 160.2 between Double-A and Durham last year. As a ball park figure, the Rays usually don't increase a young pitcher's inning total more than 20% year over year. This would put Davis's "limit" somewhere near ~195 innings. Assuming Davis takes a turn every five to six says until the end of the season we're looking at an addition 25-30 innings of work on top of the 158.2 he has so far. This would fall in line with the 20% increase. If we assume that Davis can be league average or so (4.5 FIP) thats about 14-16 expected earned runs over those innings. 

One would hope that two above average seasons in Durham means that he is as ready as he'll ever be to take the next step and be a key member of the rotation for years to come. Of course, many prospects have posted good numbers only to flame out at the top level. We don't know which path Davis' career will take, but we are about to start finding out.

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Dude, I love you too.

WTF? Does that kid even know what FIP stands for?

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tigers are middle of the pack in K rate and below average in walk rate

middle of AL in HR rate but play in a pitchers park. I am expecting decent things from Davis at home. Overall for the season, league average will suffice.

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 3, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

It should be a good match-up for him. Their hitters are not all that patient

Same reason i knew Kaz would do well in SEA, not only impatient but collectively bad

by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm confused. Aren't we going to need 6 starters next trip around the rotation

So weren’t they going to have to bring Davis up anyway to pitch one of the games in Yankee stadium. I don’t see how this means Sonny is out of the rotation. He most likely is going to pitch the next day in Yankee stadium.

They probably would rather have Davis have his first start at home instead of at Yankee stadium so they pushed Sonny back. I definitely can’t say I agree with the move

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by Sveet on Sep 3, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

That's one trip around.

I haven’t seen anything that says it’s just a 6 man rotation from here on out. If they continue the 5 man rotation after the double header, I’d rather that be Davis.

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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 3, 2009 9:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Now you're cooking with gas Tommy

Hinsight being 20/20 we should have traded Sonny last year

by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still no.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because it was never about Sonny v EJax and you know it.

It was about $$$. Trading Edwin allowed us to bolster our RF platoon and bullpen. And we got a long term RF.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't want to rehash that debate, other to say they did

bolster RF but possibly at the expense of the playoffs this year

by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

you disagree?

plug EJ and his numbers into the rotation and i’d bet you’d see a different W/L

by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah cuz that's how it works

just plug them in.

WITH HIS 11 WINS WE WOULD BE 83-49

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's 1 v 9 out there.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, those magical wins

Only one came against a team with a decent offense (TEX). And he’s been pretty crap in the 2nd half of the year.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll give you that.

But you can’t ignore how his 2nd half has not resembled his 1st. And still, it wasn’t about how good or bad he was as it relates to the Rays.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

13 dingers over his last 11 games

That’s a good way to regress your FIP

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't want Edwin to do poorly.

But saying, “It’d be great if we kept Edwin” is, in my mind, nearly equivalent to saying, “It’d be great if we could have signed Sabathia this offseason”.

Stu said it best – we have to properly reallocate our resources to compete.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm well aware of that

and blasted on Indian fan for saying how great he is, by pointing out that very fact

Still with him rather than Sonny we’re in better shape today

We made one serious error, imo we probably thought Price was more ready than he was

I can’t fault the FO for the demise of Kaz and Sonny or the regression of Garza and SHields

by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sonny's trade value wasn't as high. Please read my above post.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

We would've been better off with a lot of players.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bonds

We don’t have a helmet big enough.

by terp12 on Sep 3, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

We will next year

Bring on those jet fighter helmets the MILB has to use next year

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

OMG!

That looks absolutely ridiculous. Where is the chin strap?

by terp12 on Sep 3, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

Rawlings needs to rethink this idea. They can come up with a better idea then this.

I don’t know why carbon fiber and compression gels wouldn’t work.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Sep 3, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Active Tank armor might work

Tiny explosives can sense when a ball is coming for the head. They detonate when the ball is close to striking a person

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

After the game he strained spaghetti for the team with that thing

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's actually Juggernaut's helmet.

The Gem of Cyttorak is possessing David in that very image.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bonds

Could you imagine a helmet like that on Bonds. The pitcher would have a hard time not hitting it. It would be HUGE!

by terp12 on Sep 3, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will it be optional?

Go back to no helmets. Then you will see some nervous feet at the plate.

by terp12 on Sep 3, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

who the hell is that

he looks like he survived a fire in which 90% of his body got 3rd degree burns, but was Eckstein enough to put the armor back on

Kaz/Shields/Garza/Sonny/Price/Davis/Hellickson-necessitate a drool cup or a 7 man rotation

by CubFanRaysaddict on Sep 5, 2009 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is this rather than Sonny talk?

If we kept Edwin it would have been him and Sonny, if we trade him it’s just Sonny. Nobody was going to trade something legit for Andy.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

And one of the AL's better bullpens.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 3, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

If we drop out of contention I really want to see us give the young guys some PT.

Davis, Joyce, Perez, Cashmere, Brignac

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by Sveet on Sep 3, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the Times this morning

Sonny is scheduled to pitch against the Yanks on Monday’s doubleheader. I think my sphincter just tightened a bit.

by terp12 on Sep 3, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Not definite

That is what they are speculating.

by terp12 on Sep 3, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

God I cannot wait for Hellboy

I think Davis will be okay, but his minor league numbers just don’t really impress me. This is a mid to back end of the guy, like Niemann. Hopefully we can fill out our #5 slot with a guy with #4 talent and our #4 slot with a guy with #3 talent. Can’t have aces across the board.

Just someone better watch their back cause our ace is coming through the system at an alarming rate.

Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks

by matthan on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but you seem down that Davis is finally getting his chance.

Almost like you expect failure. While I don’t expect CGSO’s right off the bat, I do think he will do a good job. As long as he can get their lefties he will be fine. Nobody seemed to think much of Niemann coming into the season

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Davis is going to do really well

I really like his stuff and control has never really been a problem for him. I think his transition should be easier than Price’s as he already has three pitches. I just don’t want people to say OMG BUST if he struggles early on.

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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 3, 2009 9:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Understood

I think he’s going to be death on righty heavy squads. Teams with a lot of switch hitters or lefties could hit him pretty hard, but I want to see Wade make the adjustments with the big boys.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh snap

It’s the dreaded contraverted Sigma

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by Brickhaus on Sep 3, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Jags

I just heard that Jags got fired from the Bucs. Any confirmation on that?

by terp12 on Sep 3, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I showed him some homes

I drove him around S. Tampa and he just bought a house in Culbreath Isles. Ouch. He still has a house in Boston. Sucks for him.

by terp12 on Sep 3, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

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