Fun with Hate Mail
From: xxx
To: Tommy
Subject: sonnanstine
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:26:38 -0700 (PDT)
I want to start by saying your website is awesome BECAUSE you guys have
all the late breaking Rays news.
I also want to say I think the stuff you do on the site is pretty good
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/9/8/1019683/andy-sonnanstine-leaves-no-one
Tell that fag RJ to quit sniffing Sonnys underwear. He's such a fucking
apologist. His credibility is about equal to Steve Duemig. The way he
covers certain players differently than others is a joke. When Sonny is
bad, there is always a reason. When he is average, there is some sort of
SABR stat that says he is great. News flash: a 4.38 ERA and 1.29 WHIP is
very average
Sonny fucking sucks, tell him to quit trying to give some in depth break
downs to tell people that
The funniest part of all this is, he still thinks he has been right all
along about Sonny AND Jackson because he thinks he used such a good
process in evaluating them that even if he was wrong it had to be a
complete fluke. Sounds a lot like Duemig again. A pompous douche bag
The guy needs to learn that not every outcome can be calculated, and
like Jon Daniels said SABR stats need to be used to reinforce gut
feelings from physical observations. Not the other way around, where
SABR stats are used to explain what is happening and what is going to
happen.
Its clear his baseball knowledge is very limited, and he uses SABR stats
like crutches. he couldnt8 actually watch a game without his computer
and explain who is doing good, and why they are doing good. Which is why
he so often gets things wrong i.e. Jackson vs Sonny
Oh yea and using big words when they arent needed doesnt make him sound
any smarter, it actually makes him sound like an even bigger douche
bag.
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When are people going to realize
RJ is artificial intelligence? Has anyone ever met the “guy”? I’ve sent him emails inviting him to games for free and they go unanswered.
I swear the guy is the WOPR computer from War Games, just upgraded.
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
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by EminenceFront on Sep 8, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Introducing the only known photo of the WOPRJ.

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by EminenceFront on Sep 8, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You're a whore.
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by EminenceFront on Sep 9, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you comment good
Your not smart just like RJ
by Graham MacAree on Sep 8, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The Lusty Lady
Did you end up going to any of the drinkeries/eateries I mentioned? Collins was closed this weekend for some reason :(
by Graham MacAree on Sep 8, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Like hell am I ever stepping in there
I just appreciate the billboards on my way to work.
by Graham MacAree on Sep 8, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Machines don't have assholes.
Wait! Unless….
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by EminenceFront on Sep 8, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Bill Simmons aka The Sports Guy
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The author of the email?
presumptuous, no?
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I know, and I was joking back
Currently penning a Buc Em piece. Should be a hoot.
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Sonnanstine Maker-Uper-that-he-is-Good-er
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by EminenceFront on Sep 8, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
His jock smells like success in the face of haters
I’ve been asked to come up with 5 reasons why the Bucs will have a losing season. and they have to have merit.
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I accused him of trolling acblue the first time he was here.
He’s been around for a little bit now; clearly not a troll. More an odd coincidence.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
This amuses me.
You’ve got an evil twin, ac! Or wait…MAYBE YOU’RE THE EVIL ONE!
angels fan in seattle
Nope
Actually, last time this guy was here, he went batshit over a spring-training start by Sonny, something about him getting shelled after giving up 3 runs in 4 innings or something like that. That’s pretty much what ended him here.
Think about that. Two weeks before the end of Spring training and he was up Sonny’s ass about getting ‘shelled’. Like he fucking had a clue.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
IM SICK OF HEARING ABOUT FIP, TRA, WSP
not that i know RJ or even care to agree with either person the physcho hate mail guy does in my opinion make a good point. stats can be manipulated, so just watch a game and judge a game as if you were still in highschool ball and you could just watch a guy play and knew if he was good or not.
What about the games you can't watch?
What if you only watch Rays games, but you want to compare their 5 starting pitchers to Boston’s? I’m sure you could use the 18 games we play together and what you saw and maybe you’re a scout with a photographic memory, but how exactly are you going to put what you saw into my brain, since you know, I’m not you and I may see things differently. Be as subjective as you want, but I guess what I should have said on all the other rants you have been on is; “Why are you here?” The Heater seems more your speed since not only do you not care about the statistics, but you go out of your way to tell everyone how little you care. By the way, here’s my favorite Gator fans:

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
HAHA thats a awesome picture
wow sorry to have offended you with the stat comment. i didnt realize i was ranting but simply stating my opinion, but whatever. im not saying DONT EVER USE STATS TO COMPARE PLAYERS. im simply saying some of you use stats in arguments like nothing else matters in life. AND, when a post comes out about a minor league player then sure i love to see those stats then. but please dont have such retarted arguments like sonny is just as good as Ejax just because some unorthodox stat says so, or dont tell me JP HOWELL is better then Pappelbon, or BJ upton is having a better season then elsbury.
No offense taken
Last year, Sonny was better than E. Jackson, Howell is not quite as good as Papelbon, but everyone has heard of Pap and no one has heard of Howell. They’re actually quite close this season in talent, mostly due to a small uptick in Pap’s walks and JP being virtually unhittable. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Beej putting up his second worst season is still playing better than Jacoby. Ask Sox fans how much they like having Ellsbury never take a walk or take curious routes in the OF. On second thought, you better not, they might use a stat and since you haven’t seen it happen with your eyes then it probably didn’t even happen.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 10, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Please use proper spelling and grammar.
It’s in the community guidelines.
Last warning.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 10, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
fuk aWf
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Without running the number
you have to look at the complete picture on players. Is BJ’s batting average lower than Ellsbury’s? Yes. That means squat. You can’t just look at the offensive side of things (unless you’re comparing DH’s I guess). Who is the better CF’er? Who plays better defensively? The complete picture might give you a (gasp) more complete look at a player
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B.J. Upton is having a better season than Jacoby Ellsbury.
He has been more valuable, and while it’s close it’s not close enough that you can convince me otherwise. B.J. has been disappointing this season but he’s still been more valuable than an average major league player. There’s not really an argument to be made otherwise.
They both suck in comparison to Guti though. I know it’s not relevant to the discussion, but I can’t actually believe it myself.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 10, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything you SHOULD listen to scouts in regards to the minors and SHOULDN'T in regards to the majors
minor league stats fluctuate like R.J,’s processor speed.
by Navi's_Navy on Sep 11, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I am sick of certain people thinking their opinions carry the same weight as those of the literate but that's just me
by Graham MacAree on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Slow week in the Land of Branyan?
You’ve been over here a lot adding spice to our already caustic bloody mary.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Robert is in Denmark
Havoc and mayhem don’t really happen without him so I get bored.
by Graham MacAree on Sep 9, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That lucky a hole
He should have found a temporary replacement, though it is hard to do his job with such panache.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I could try a good Robert impression since I live with him.
But its doubtful I will ever try such a thing.
Probably for the best
Some rabbit holes are best left unexplored.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 10, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Good lord I wish you'd venture over more often.
Tools Whore
The first part of that e-mail is tremendous.
I guess the part about how you have such a great site was an attempt to get you to overlook the part in the very next sentence where he calls R.J. a British cigarette.
My name isn't "xxx"?
Lead singer, songwriter, and caterer for the band Suicide Phoenix. We play sitar-based anthems on real estate law. Available for weddings, birthdays (13+, please), and LAN parties.
by PlayOnWords on Sep 9, 2009 7:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
This has Rays4242 written all over it.
What you think all the guns is for? All purpose war, got the Rottweilers by the door. And I feed 'em gunpowder, so they can devour the criminals, tryin' to drop my decimals.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Sep 9, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions
The only douchebag is the guy who wrote this letter.
"That's not baseball. Little numbers in a newspaper is...So-dookie, or whatever."
I've refrained from printing my hate mail
Almost all of which actually comes from promoters and the athletes themselves. Unlike baseball players, evidently a lot of boxers have nothing better to do than troll the internet for blog posts about themselves.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Floyd Mayweather is a bitch
Marquez is going to run wild.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course they do. You can only
realistically workout a 3 or 4 hours a day max and they only work 1 every few months. What else do they have to do?
Tools Whore
When in training, they're supposedly working 8 - 10 hours a day
But yeah, there’s more free time generally, because they can’t really do much of anything else during the downtime. No eating, partying, etc.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
No sexy time
would be the worst IMO
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 10, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
How can anyone sent
Rico Juarez Anderson hate mail?
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The time/space implications of that statement are profoud
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 9, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Heater-rific!
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Ummm
he couldnt8 actually watch a game without his computer
and explain who is doing good, and why they are doing good
…..
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

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