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From: xxx
To: Tommy
Subject: sonnanstine
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:26:38 -0700 (PDT)

I want to start by saying your website is awesome BECAUSE you guys have
all the late breaking Rays news.

I also want to say I think the stuff you do on the site is pretty good

http://www.draysbay.com/2009/9/8/1019683/andy-sonnanstine-leaves-no-one

Tell that fag RJ to quit sniffing Sonnys underwear. He's such a fucking
apologist. His credibility is about equal to Steve Duemig. The way he
covers certain players differently than others is a joke. When Sonny is
bad, there is always a reason. When he is average, there is some sort of
SABR stat that says he is great. News flash: a 4.38 ERA and 1.29 WHIP is
very average

Sonny fucking sucks, tell him to quit trying to give some in depth break
downs to tell people that

The funniest part of all this is, he still thinks he has been right all
along about Sonny AND Jackson because he thinks he used such a good
process in evaluating them that even if he was wrong it had to be a
complete fluke. Sounds a lot like Duemig again. A pompous douche bag

The guy needs to learn that not every outcome can be calculated, and
like Jon Daniels said SABR stats need to be used to reinforce gut
feelings from physical observations. Not the other way around, where
SABR stats are used to explain what is happening and what is going to
happen.

Its clear his baseball knowledge is very limited, and he uses SABR stats
like crutches. he couldnt8 actually watch a game without his computer
and explain who is doing good, and why they are doing good. Which is why
he so often gets things wrong i.e. Jackson vs Sonny

Oh yea and using big words when they arent needed doesnt make him sound
any smarter, it actually makes him sound like an even bigger douche
bag.

Yup, these are our readers.

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When are people going to realize

RJ is artificial intelligence? Has anyone ever met the “guy”? I’ve sent him emails inviting him to games for free and they go unanswered.

I swear the guy is the WOPR computer from War Games, just upgraded.

by Jason Collette on Sep 8, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Bill Simmons aka The Sports Guy
Yup, these are our readers.

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by Buc Wild on Sep 8, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The author of the email?

presumptuous, no?

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by Buc Wild on Sep 8, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, and I was joking back

Currently penning a Buc Em piece. Should be a hoot.

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by Buc Wild on Sep 8, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sonnanstine Maker-Uper-that-he-is-Good-er

Sign lady must die.
Be the first on your block to own DRB Gear.

by EminenceFront on Sep 8, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

His jock smells like success in the face of haters

I’ve been asked to come up with 5 reasons why the Bucs will have a losing season. and they have to have merit.

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by Buc Wild on Sep 8, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I accused him of trolling acblue the first time he was here.

He’s been around for a little bit now; clearly not a troll. More an odd coincidence.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Sep 8, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This amuses me.

You’ve got an evil twin, ac! Or wait…MAYBE YOU’RE THE EVIL ONE!

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Sep 8, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is beautiful for many reasons.

Rec.

Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.

by P Brady on Sep 8, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is hilarious

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Sep 9, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I'll do gooder next time.

The Sports Chief

Your source for replacement level commentary

by RATW on Sep 8, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope

Actually, last time this guy was here, he went batshit over a spring-training start by Sonny, something about him getting shelled after giving up 3 runs in 4 innings or something like that. That’s pretty much what ended him here.

Think about that. Two weeks before the end of Spring training and he was up Sonny’s ass about getting ‘shelled’. Like he fucking had a clue.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Sep 8, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

IM SICK OF HEARING ABOUT FIP, TRA, WSP

not that i know RJ or even care to agree with either person the physcho hate mail guy does in my opinion make a good point. stats can be manipulated, so just watch a game and judge a game as if you were still in highschool ball and you could just watch a guy play and knew if he was good or not.

by Hook85 on Sep 9, 2009 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

What about the games you can't watch?

What if you only watch Rays games, but you want to compare their 5 starting pitchers to Boston’s? I’m sure you could use the 18 games we play together and what you saw and maybe you’re a scout with a photographic memory, but how exactly are you going to put what you saw into my brain, since you know, I’m not you and I may see things differently. Be as subjective as you want, but I guess what I should have said on all the other rants you have been on is; “Why are you here?” The Heater seems more your speed since not only do you not care about the statistics, but you go out of your way to tell everyone how little you care. By the way, here’s my favorite Gator fans:

Embrace Eternity

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA thats a awesome picture

wow sorry to have offended you with the stat comment. i didnt realize i was ranting but simply stating my opinion, but whatever. im not saying DONT EVER USE STATS TO COMPARE PLAYERS. im simply saying some of you use stats in arguments like nothing else matters in life. AND, when a post comes out about a minor league player then sure i love to see those stats then. but please dont have such retarted arguments like sonny is just as good as Ejax just because some unorthodox stat says so, or dont tell me JP HOWELL is better then Pappelbon, or BJ upton is having a better season then elsbury.

by Hook85 on Sep 10, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

No offense taken

Last year, Sonny was better than E. Jackson, Howell is not quite as good as Papelbon, but everyone has heard of Pap and no one has heard of Howell. They’re actually quite close this season in talent, mostly due to a small uptick in Pap’s walks and JP being virtually unhittable. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Beej putting up his second worst season is still playing better than Jacoby. Ask Sox fans how much they like having Ellsbury never take a walk or take curious routes in the OF. On second thought, you better not, they might use a stat and since you haven’t seen it happen with your eyes then it probably didn’t even happen.

Embrace Eternity

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 10, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please use proper spelling and grammar.

It’s in the community guidelines.

Last warning.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 10, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

fuk aWf

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Sep 10, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without running the number

you have to look at the complete picture on players. Is BJ’s batting average lower than Ellsbury’s? Yes. That means squat. You can’t just look at the offensive side of things (unless you’re comparing DH’s I guess). Who is the better CF’er? Who plays better defensively? The complete picture might give you a (gasp) more complete look at a player

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by Buc Wild on Sep 10, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

B.J. Upton is having a better season than Jacoby Ellsbury.

He has been more valuable, and while it’s close it’s not close enough that you can convince me otherwise. B.J. has been disappointing this season but he’s still been more valuable than an average major league player. There’s not really an argument to be made otherwise.

They both suck in comparison to Guti though. I know it’s not relevant to the discussion, but I can’t actually believe it myself.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 10, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slow week in the Land of Branyan?

You’ve been over here a lot adding spice to our already caustic bloody mary.

Embrace Eternity

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Robert is in Denmark

Havoc and mayhem don’t really happen without him so I get bored.

by Graham MacAree on Sep 9, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That lucky a hole

He should have found a temporary replacement, though it is hard to do his job with such panache.

Embrace Eternity

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably for the best

Some rabbit holes are best left unexplored.

Embrace Eternity

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 10, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The first part of that e-mail is tremendous.

I guess the part about how you have such a great site was an attempt to get you to overlook the part in the very next sentence where he calls R.J. a British cigarette.

by untexan on Sep 9, 2009 1:53 AM EDT reply actions  

My name isn't "xxx"?

Lead singer, songwriter, and caterer for the band Suicide Phoenix. We play sitar-based anthems on real estate law. Available for weddings, birthdays (13+, please), and LAN parties.

by PlayOnWords on Sep 9, 2009 7:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This has Rays4242 written all over it.

What you think all the guns is for? All purpose war, got the Rottweilers by the door. And I feed 'em gunpowder, so they can devour the criminals, tryin' to drop my decimals.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Sep 9, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

The only douchebag is the guy who wrote this letter.

"That's not baseball. Little numbers in a newspaper is...So-dookie, or whatever."

by Orlando Rays on Sep 9, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I've refrained from printing my hate mail

Almost all of which actually comes from promoters and the athletes themselves. Unlike baseball players, evidently a lot of boxers have nothing better to do than troll the internet for blog posts about themselves.

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Sep 9, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Floyd Mayweather is a bitch

Marquez is going to run wild.

Embrace Eternity

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course they do. You can only

realistically workout a 3 or 4 hours a day max and they only work 1 every few months. What else do they have to do?

Tools Whore

by Tyler on Sep 9, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

When in training, they're supposedly working 8 - 10 hours a day

But yeah, there’s more free time generally, because they can’t really do much of anything else during the downtime. No eating, partying, etc.

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Sep 10, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

No sexy time

would be the worst IMO

Embrace Eternity

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 10, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can anyone sent

Rico Juarez Anderson hate mail?

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by Buc Wild on Sep 9, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The time/space implications of that statement are profoud

The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 9, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

geez

sent = send.

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by Buc Wild on Sep 9, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heater-rific!

2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Greg Reid is better than you
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html

by JMB on Sep 10, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Ummm
he couldnt8 actually watch a game without his computer
and explain who is doing good, and why they are doing good

…..

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Sep 11, 2009 3:36 AM EDT reply actions  

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