David Price's Night in New York

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 8, 2009 9:10 PM EDT

Let's be honest. The things people care about from here on out are pretty simply to list:

Everyone else

With such in mind, let's start with Price.

His final line: 6 innings pitched (23 batters faced), 6 strikeouts, 2 walks, 9(!) groundballs, 4 fly balls, 1 home run allowed, 105 pitches.

Of those 105, five induced swinging strikes (sub-par 4.8%), 53 were fastballs (average velocity: 93.4 MPH while the high was 96.7 MPH), 2 change-ups, and 10 sliders. I know what you're saying - that doesn't add up to 105 pitches - well that's because for whatever reason, from inning three to five, the machine did not register speed or pitch type. I don't know why, perhaps they had to reset the darn thing. All told, Price was solid. He even struck out Derek Jeter thrice. You'd like to see more whiffs from someone with his stuff but at the same time the increase in grounders is nice.

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Less K's More Grounders

Given the state of the pen he may have been told to pitch to contact low in the zone, trust his stuff and defense. Something he needs to do going forward.

by TheGrinch on Sep 8, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions

Good point

Embrace Eternity

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 8, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions

amen brother

by LKMoreland on Sep 8, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions

I'd like to see more IP

by sternfan1 on Sep 8, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions

Why?

So we can try to get him injured in a meaningless game?

by rglass44 on Sep 9, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions

Price had a nice day

that’s about it

by Transplanted on Sep 8, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions

One day a good start, one day a few runs, many days bullpen blows, everyday we lose

by sternfan1 on Sep 8, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions

This should be your sig.

You just love this don’t you?

by rglass44 on Sep 9, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions

It's what he lives by

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Sep 9, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions

all starters have pitched well in the last 3-4 weeks. other than sonny

if my memory is working

by gjsor on Sep 8, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions

Shields has had a couple clunkers

by sternfan1 on Sep 8, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions

5 of the 8 Sept starts have been QS

Been a bunch of good starts in August too

by Transplanted on Sep 8, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions

The last time a left-hander struck Jeter out 3 times in a game was 1999.

by walkoffwalk on Sep 8, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions

ELIAS POWER

by Transplanted on Sep 8, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Question about stats (and nowhere else to ask it.)

I was reading a debate about Howell, and someone said “He has a 3.64 FIP and a 3.81 tRA.” The context was that the commenter was defending Howell, and offered those stats to prove his point. Here’s my question (from an old guy who’s still trying to get into the 21st Century.) What is a good FIP and a good tRA? I don’t see those numbers posted anywhere I can think to look.

by Fox 71 on Sep 8, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/what-is-tra
“League average tRA is typically in the high 4s.”

And I’m not certain but I think a league average FIP may be around 4.40

by Doug09 on Sep 8, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions

those are good numbers, but compared to what they were last year and prior to August--ouch

by sternfan1 on Sep 8, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions

League average FIP=League average ERA

It is scaled so that’s the case.

by rglass44 on Sep 9, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 8, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions

And our draft position is rising daily!

by GvilleRay on Sep 8, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Bryce Harper 2010

Jennings, Hellickson, Davis, Brignac, Beckham, Moore > Your top 3

by Dbullsfan on Sep 8, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions

IM SICK OF FIP, add this and that and this.

sure if your in a heated argument it sure does help shut the over the person up especially if they dont know how it works. but im all reality if you watch a pitcher you know if his stuff is good or not. period. the very first 10-15 pitches i can look at my wife and say so and so has good stuff tonight.

by Hook85 on Sep 8, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

No you can't

Maybe you can judge whether he has good stuff for those 10-15 pitches, but you cannot tell whether he has good stuff that night.

I have no doubt you can remember any number of times that you said “this pitcher has nothing tonight” and he got bombed early on. And I have no doubt you have also said on occasion “this pitcher has great stuff” and he went on to pitch a terrific game.

But you cannot consistently do that, and if you think you do it is because of selective memory. I doubt if you can even tell whether his first 10-15 pitches demonstrate good stuff, even if your seats are on the field behind home plate. Maybe you can. But beyond that, there is no way you can anticipate much more.

by bobr on Sep 9, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

What is the stat-based argument

That David Price is going to be the dominant, top-of-the-rotation guy he’s been touted as? He doesn’t get nearly enough swinging strikes, which means he doesn’t get nearly enough strikeouts, in order to impress me as a valid ace-in-the-making. Is there something hidden in the numbers that I’m not seeing that supports it, or is it just blind faith on the opinions of scouts?

by Not Whole View Gang survivor on Sep 9, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions