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Why The 2009 Rays Failed to Reach the Playoffs: The Run Scoring

Beginning with this post, I'm going to take a look at a few reasons why this year's team failed to reach expectations. This is for detailed information and a catharsis exercise in order to bury 2009 and prepare us for the off-season.  Let's begin with the run scoring.

The Rays are fourth in the American League in runs scored per game with 5.07. American League average is 4.83 which is a difference of 0.24 runs per game or 39 runs over a full season.  I took every one of the above average AL teams from this season and figured out how many games they scored below their average. The numbers are startling.

Star-divide

 

Team R/G %G < *
NYY 5.75 55.71
BOS 5.58 55.47
LAA 5.29 55.07
TB 5.07 61.15
CLE 4.97 47.1
TEX 4.92 47.83
MIN 4.86 52.17
TOR 4.84 50

 

You'll note that most of the other teams are pretty much confined within plateaus. The Rays are distant from the pack. Add in the below average American League offenses and you get these figures:

DET 4.64 56.2
BAL 4.58 55.07
CHW 4.56 57.86
OAK 4.55 52.9
KCR 4.06 60.87
SEA 3.97 48.2

 

Given that only Kansas City rivals the Rays percentage, this seems like nothing but random variance. Further, while some will claim this is a skill - and be sure that I believe offensive variance is not one - last year's unit averaged 4.78 runs per game and scored less than 4 runs in 52% of its games.

Most are more than unwilling to accept that luck and randomness plays such a huge role in the success of a baseball team or player. With such, I have to admit there are a few reasons as to why I can see this offense sputtering more than expected, but not quite more than the rest of the league. The reasons are as follows:

Ineffective leadoff hitting

450 plate appearances from Upton netted an on-base percentage of .317. Even if the number two hitter reaches base, the chances of scoring a run are dramatically lowered with one batter already out. Upton represented the second worst hitter and yet he was the leadoff man for a majority of the year. The decision to drop him may have came too late, just as the decision to place him at the top may have been too hasty, but the idea was about as failsafe of a concept as the Rays lineup possessed. It didn't work out this year, hopefully it does next year.

Constant lineup altering based on cold/hot streaks

For a while Carlos Pena was batting in the lower half of the lineup against right-handed pitching. This is absolutely inexcusable and reeks of short-sightedness. Pena mashes righties like nobody else in the lineup, over the last three seasons Pena hit righties at a .236/.369/.567 clip while faring decently against lefties with a .211/.332/.482 line. Yet, for whatever reason, Pena was moved down in mid-to-late July and would fluctuate the rest of the season from the six to the four slot depending on what the dice landed on. Obviously Maddon had no hesitations moving him up and down on a daily basis at this point, but wouldn't do the same for platoon affects?

Another unexplainable move was Evan Longoria batting sixth for a few weeks. Yes he struggled; no you don't move players down because of it. Maddon damn well knows Longoria is one of his best hitters. What does demoting him in the order accomplish? Theoretically it takes pressure off Longoria to perform or the demotion pisses him off, causing him to press even more.

Seemingly inefficient lineup usage

Ben Zobrist has walked 16% of the time to date. I believe most people were aware Zobrist's .600+ slugging percentage was too good to be true, but his key talent has always, always been his ability to draw walks. Maybe his true talent level for walks isn't quite 16%, maybe the figure is more like 12% moving forward. Nonetheless, Zobrist has fewer than 60 at-bats in the top three slots this season. Now Carl is probably a lock as is Evan - or he should be at I suppose - but Zobrist never even gained consideration for leading off. Why? Beats me.

Neither Gabe seemed to get upper lineup preference either, and instead were usually stuck in the bottom third. This seems silly considering Kapler's domination of left-handers and Pena's relative struggles. I'm not saying flip the two, I'm saying Kapler batting eighth is less than ideal.

Underperformers in key spots

I've addressed the leadoff struggles of Upton. Pat Burrell was either on the DL or on the DL for most of the season. Dioner Navarro was possibly the worst catcher in the major leagues. Otherwise, the Rays saw one massive overachiever and three underachievers. Luck plays into this category heavily and given past performances it's hard to blame anyone for not dropping Upton or Burrell at an earlier date.

Next up: defense.  

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(Numbers used are dated before 9/9's game.)

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Zobrist at leadoff?

How can we argue in retrospect that Zobrist should have been the choice at leadoff?

 Bartlett hit .326/.419/.514 as the lead off batter. I know you don’t think he can continue hitting like that (nor do I) but how can his placement possibly be looked at as a bad thing if we’re looking purely at results? His results were excellent, and one of the reasons the Rays stayed in contention as long as they did.

We can argue lineup issues all day, but the Rays struggled offensively because Upton, Burrell, and Navarro failed to meet expectations. Other players’ hot streaks helped keep the offense afloat, but those missing bats really hurt.

by tallyray on Sep 9, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I really see Zobrist as a typical #2 guy

his power has regressed in the second half, but the walk rate, as expected, continued. He is fairly fast, takes a lot of walks, and has enough power.

I still see Upton #1, but I obviously see the issues (although in my head I have us trading Bartlett, Crawford, and releasing Aki, and outside of Zobrist they would probably be the options to put there).

by Navi's_Navy on Sep 9, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which btw

is actually pretty sad to say.

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by 4QB on Sep 9, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, Zobrist?

Hes been the model of consistency

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

wBA by month

Bartlett: .402, .491, .360, .310, .438
Zo :.416, .446, .432, .392, .370

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really, this is what you call bait

Would you like to bet on 2010 wOBA Barty vs Zo? I mean the past 9 days are probably a great indicator for you.

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

The chart is in the thread

i’m through with the Zo discussion

i like him and think he’sm a candidate for lead-off

by sternfan1 on Sep 10, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not debating you on our uneven run production

When did I argue against that? Thats the pesky thing about sticking to facts….

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take that as "your post was correct" sternfan

it’s funny when i post a worthwhile comment, no mention of it occurs, but let me take a shot at some of your stats that imo are meaningless, and all hell breaks loose

have fun writing on the great Gabes and their wonderful wOBA while the team slowly sinks into the sea

by sternfan1 on Sep 10, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

What stats aren't worthless then?

What are you doing here? You say “our stats” like we cajole them and coo them to sleep each night. they are instruments. Instruments that frequently beat your inane arguments to death, and I guess that makes you uncomfortable.

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

What does that have to do with me or the Gabes?

And when did I write on the Gabes? I’m a fan of the platoon, but it seems like you are just trying to incite things today. All over the map.

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

A well written article that's time was due

Without the charts, pretty much what i’ve said all year, the Rays offense is sugar coated with those high scoring games, but way too many low ones

by sternfan1 on Sep 9, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Biggest issue I see this year is the unevenness of production

Last year, it was fairly spread out & everyone chipped in, now it’s like, 4 guys covering for the other 5. I’ll make a separate comment below with comparisons

by Transplanted on Sep 9, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Comparisons 2008/2009

1B:
.244/.369/.486 32 2Bs, 35 HR, 116 RBI, 111 BB:177 SOs
.230/.357/.527 27 2Bs, 39 HR, 101 RBI, 90 BB:169 SOs
Pena
.242/.375/.497 23 2Bs, 31 HR, 99 RBI, 94 BB: 160SO
.228/.356/.539 25 2Bs, 39 HR, 100 RBI, 86 BB:161 SO
SS:
.273/.323/.389 28 2B, 5 3B, 10 HR, 57 RBI, 35 BB, 90 SO, 22 SB, 5 CS
.329/.392/.518 36 2B, 8 3B, 15 HR, 67 RBI, 52 BB, 108 SO, 28 SB, 8 CS
Bartlett
.282/.326/.352 22 2B, 3 3B, 1 HR, 36 RBI, 22 BB, 68 SO, 20 SB, 5 CS
.331/.395/.512 26 2B, 6 3B, 13 HR, 60 RBI, 44 BB 85 SO, 24 SB, 6 CS
3B:
.275/.345/.519 44 2B, 4 3B, 33 HR, 106 RBI, 62 BB, 150 SO, 8 SB,2 CS
.285/.362/.547 41 2B, 1 3B, 33 HR, 110 RBI 63 BB, 124 SO, 6 SB,0 CS
Longoria
.270/.341/.526 31 2B, 2 3B, 26 HR 82 RBI,45 BB, 122 SO, 7 SB,0 CS
.288/.364/.554 41 2B, 0 3B, 30 HR 103 RBI, 56 BB,119 SO, 6 SB, 0 CS

I’ll cover 2B, C, OF, DH, Bench later

by Transplanted on Sep 9, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay, perhaps this is just because i'm tired.

but i can’t see how you can argue that longoria shouldn’t have been moved to the lower half of the lineup, whereas you think zobrist should have been moved up to one of the top three slots?

by yeseggs on Sep 9, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm bothered by this thread because for the past three months

I’ve been trying to rectify the idea that line-ups hold a very small amount of value in the amount of runs a team will score with my previous idea’s about lineups (1st guy is fast and walks a lot, second guy is high average, 3rd and 4th guy high slugging, and then there’s everyone else) and now this article seems to be arguing that a better use of line-ups would have done exactly what sabr stats say it should not do.

It seems to my that this line-up was inconsistent because the players themselves were inconsistent. I’m more willing to buy into the idea of bad luck than anything else because moving a lineup around holds such a small statistical significance that bad luck seems to be the better explanation.

by behn on Sep 9, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, we've had a few bad run-killing habits this year

A lot of strikeouts by our team, and we run into a lot of double plays. Almost 30 (?) from Longoria by himself. Without knowing where to check, I would imagine that teams with a lower strikeout percentage have a lower variance in runs scored from one game to the next.

by behn on Sep 9, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the increase in DPs has something to due with all the extra base runners he's had

Now someone like Navi, who’s had 13 GIDP, that’s a bigger issue since he’s been a black hole of offense.

But I think the variance has to do with the fact that only 5 regulars are above the avg in OPS, while last year almost everyone was avg or better

by Transplanted on Sep 10, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

K's killed us

if i had to some it up to one specific offense problem i would say the K’s. anytime we had a man on third and less then 2 outs it was obvious the other teams strategy just dont give them anything to hit becuase they will go for it. sure somtimes the bases would end up being loaded because of that strategy but most of the time it would still work out.

by Hook85 on Sep 10, 2009 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

RJ was trying to say give your better hitters more at-bats

Changing a lineup based on hot/cold streaks is stupid, but getting the most at-bats for your best hitters isn’t

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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 10, 2009 8:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Which is hard to measure in baseball

When met with an enigma like Ben Zobrist or BJ Upton, whose career minor league numbers show each of them to be one type of player, and then they hit the big leagues and all of a sudden they are another. At one point are we looking at a players true talent level and not just another hot or cold streak?

by behn on Sep 10, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think there's a balance to be struck.

Maddon exhibited extremes on both sides this season. Leaving Upton up top for 5 months waiting for him to snap out of his slump is one; moving Longoria and Pena down after 1 week slumps is the other. I think you give a guy a certain amount of time, then you consider doing something until he snaps out of it. As a whole, I’m not in favor of moving someone out of a lineup spot permanently unless that person’s replacement is clearly outperforming him, AND there isn’t a better fit for that player elsewhere in the lineup.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Sep 10, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 months??

His 1st game was around April 13, so you’re saying he’ll make the change on Sunday?

by sternfan1 on Sep 10, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, was Longoria/Pena on a one week slump? Longo was sucking wind since early June for several months

living statistically off his April/May start. Pena was swiss cheese at the plate for many weeks.

by ValricoBrian on Sep 10, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

I’d say luck and players underperforming is the culprit. the lineup issues, while frustrating, are less of a concern ot me.

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, all you can do is put the best team you can with your constraints on the field

Its a funny game. Either that or the Netherlands is a juggernaut, clearly better than the DR.

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by RATW on Sep 10, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

" the Rays saw one massive overachiever and three underachievers"

Personally, I’d call Zobrist and Bartlett overachievers – but you’re free to disagree.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 10, 2009 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

what about Neimann was any expecting him to be as good?

his first game this season against baltimore he gave up a grand slam to lose the game, and i thought wow this guy instead of EJax.

by Hook85 on Sep 10, 2009 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

Obviously Hook didn’t watch the game since Niemann gave up about 5 runs before getting the first out.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 10, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

i always wondered what was up with that this season. We would score 12 runs when all we needed was 4-5 to win. the very next day all we need is 2-3 to win and they cant even manage to get on the board. very inconsistent, but you are dead on about BJ not trying to say im the only one who thought this cuz im sure plenty will agree, i always hated having BJ hit first becuase hes not a good enough hitter yet to have to consitently be behind in the count always taking pitches. I dont know how many times he was down 0-2 and had to fight for his life instead of a hitter count and just waiting on his pitch and smashing it. being the first batter is a skill, and i dont think BJ has it. Aki was a great 1st batter because he could still hit even when behind in the count.

by Hook85 on Sep 10, 2009 5:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Reviewing the chart i see one number that jumps out at me

and if i’m wrong please correct me

The Rays average 5.07 abd the Indians 4.97. The difference is .10 or at this point about 13 runs. However it tells me the Indians are credited with scoring greater than average when they score 5 or more, while the Rays need to score 6 or more to fall into that category, yet both teams average virtually 5 runs per game

by sternfan1 on Sep 10, 2009 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

In the interest of fairness, it is very interestign that Barty upped his BB% to 12.6% in August

and 15%+ so far in September. Must be being more selective in leadoff spot with good results.

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Barty is having an outstanding year

Why are we not embracing it, instead of trying to deal him?

by sternfan1 on Sep 10, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

We are embracing it.

That doesn’t mean you don’t think about unloading him. He’s most consistant skill is quickly deteriorating, he’s due for a big raise, and he’s never been this good with the bat. There are also two capable options in the minors that would likely be at worst a slight downgrade.

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look at Jeter and his UZR numbers from last year and now

He’s 5 years older than Barty

Players can improve and no not just because Tex is at 1B

by sternfan1 on Sep 10, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll never agree to what?

That Bartlett’s UZR decrease every year in the last 5 or so is worrisome? That his offensive explosion is most likely a career year? that’s because I follow logic, not the whims and wills of my heart.

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess the Yankees should have dumped Jeter than long ago

If Bartlett’s a problem on this team i wish we had nime more of them

And you completely changed the post i made

by sternfan1 on Sep 10, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

WE AREN'T THE YANKEES!

If you want to pay aging veterans than go cheer for them. This team will never succeed doing that.

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You realize that each team has different constraints to play under

The Rays have a smaller payroll to work with.

The Yankees have to work with the fact that theyre all douchebags.

We all have our battles.

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by Buc Wild on Sep 10, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's tough that they cannot take a year off

They wanted to coast last year and try to develop some talent, but when they didn’t make the playoffs they went ouat and spent 27M on CC, 25M on Teix, and 16M on AJ. They added 68M a year for the forseeable future in one offseason where virtually every other free agent had to take less than he made the year before.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 10, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to buy low and sell high

That being said, Barty has been fantastic offensively. There are defensive concerns due to his age. It all depends on the strength of the trade market for him. If there isn’t a great offer there is no need to move him. I would not be sad to see him in the lineup in 2010. I just think AF has a job to do which includes seeing if other teams overvalue him.

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Would a catcher that can hit above the Mendoza line help offset that issue? What about regression by some key contributors? Your reactionary nature makes debate near-impossible.

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

With all your BS commentarry I see the same.

What does one have to do with the other. My name is Ryan Glass, it is not Andrew Friedman or Matt Silverman. What I say has no effect on the team’s won/loss. Point to a comment where I said I was happy with the w/l. Point to where I’ve said recently that we are one of the best teams in baseball. You just argue in circles and then post BS when someone calls you on the carpet.

Get used to me following you around calling you out because it’s my new role on this lovely site. Maybe I should change my name to “sternfactchecker1.”

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

make that sternfactchecker2

but its cool. Theres more than enough work for the both of us

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you 12?

Are we playing youth soccer? I’m confused….

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does the scoreboard make you a winner?

Aren’t you supposed to be a Rays fan? If the Rays lose, Sternfan wins.

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

This is the happiest he’s been since ’07.

STERNFAN’S BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bait?

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by Buc Wild on Sep 10, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The entire team is in flux.

What he does one place concerns itself with another. With the trade of Bartlett we may net a quality catcher, or we may free up the funds to so. Every player and position effects the other.

by rglass44 on Sep 10, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

The extreme variance in the rays offense has been an issue and has been discussed on this board for awhile now

Amazingly some of us pointed this out months ago, yet the trend continued. This leads me to think that it is not all just bad luck, but rather some sort of trait leads the team to have high variance of runs in 9 inning intervals. I think the rays have propensity for Ks, tons of streaky hitters, and black holes in the lineup are what caused this. Unfortunately the Ks will always be there for this squad but hopefully Pat Navi and BJ regain the ability to provide offense as well as CC Longo and Pena avoiding the major offensive cooldowns they’ve seen at times. When things click we can see 10 runs, when they don’t it’s a PG.

Can we get robots for umpires and a computer to make in game strategy decisions? I'm sick of inconsistently bad umpiring and Joe's pitiful in game management. Oh and Navi (and BJ) need some PED's. BenZo, Bartlett, and Pena do not.

by matthan on Sep 10, 2009 6:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd like to see te relationship between Ks and the standard deviation of runs per game

Can we get robots for umpires and a computer to make in game strategy decisions? I'm sick of inconsistently bad umpiring and Joe's pitiful in game management. Oh and Navi (and BJ) need some PED's. BenZo, Bartlett, and Pena do not.

by matthan on Sep 10, 2009 6:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Word.

I have don’t have the time to do that, of course, but throw it in your notebook or see if someone else wants to take a crack at it.

by Suttree on Sep 10, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about this today...

And wonder if homeruns are a factor as well.

I’d figure a high K/high HR team would be more likely to have a large variance than a team that was more of a slap hitting offense.

by tallyray on Sep 10, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

BBs also.

Or maybe a one-dimensional offense.

by rglass44 on Sep 11, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

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