Tampa Bay Rays Agree to Terms with Matt Garza ($3.35M), J.P. Howell ($1.8M), and Jason Bartlett ($4.0M); Prepare for Arbitration with B.J. Upton
Per the Rays.
Garza's deal? Shocker. Howell won't be one of the three highest paid relievers in the pen and Bartlett gets a moderate raise.
The bigger points:
- Everyone wants to see Garza and Howell with the Rays beyond the next few seasons. The problem is - this is groundbreaking - they are pitchers and they are still under cost control. Barring an options-laden deal, sometimes it simply doesn't make sense to extend these guys. Garza is under team control for another four seasons and Howell for another three. Pitchers are weird beings who are more prone to attrition than their hitting brethren. Velocity peaks at an early age and while I don't think Garza is a candidate for explosion, you never know, and that's why a five-or-six-year guaranteed deal makes little sense in light of going year-to-year.
- And yes, I'd put $500 towards a Howell life-time extension. Dude provides great material.
- Bartlett wants a long-term deal with the Rays. So do I. Doesn't make either likely. I'm sure some will be appalled that the Rays had nothing to do with this and haven't reached out to Ben Zobrist about a long-term deal, but why? Bartlett is 30-years-old and under control through the end of the 2011 season. Even the most ardent supports of his offensive outbreak have to admit his bread and butter is defense, and that's not a skill that improves with age. Is he worth $4M? Absolutely. He's worth more than that, actually, but he's not worth a long-term commitment. Not now. Not with a career year lacking forward sustainability and not with Reid Brignac near.
- The B.J. Upton situation is no surprise. Larry Reynolds has always spoken about how MLB's salary set-up doesn't fit for high-end young players like Upton. He's right about that, these guys make far fewer dollars early in their career than they are worth. That sucks for the players and the agents, but it's a great feast for teams willing to take advantage of it. The problem for Reynolds is that his client excels at things the arbitrators won't understand. Hell, most of the fans don't understand that defense is just as valuable as offense. Unless the Rays are drastically low-balling Upton or Reynolds is a disciplined linguist, the odds of the Rays losing this case appear slim at best. Upton's agent doing his job isn't going to stop anyone from making the Virginia native out as a villain. But then again, it's never stopped them before either.
- Oh, and as for payroll, with the ~9M added, we're up to ~67M.
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Seems pretty fair to both sides all around
You have to think that we’ll be around 70M to start the season, which should give us a little leeway if we need to shore something up during the season. Kiko is still out there, though I think our pen (on paper) looks pretty stout so far.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 19, 2010 3:55 PM EST reply actions
Yeah I saw that, I was factoring in another 3-3.5 for the Beejmonster
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 19, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Might be optimistically high.
Which only helps signing a MR.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 19, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Could be, but if Spilborghs gets 3.35 in Arb1, I have to think Beej gets comparable.
I honestly hope that if it comes down to 3.1 vs. 3.4 (or something similar) that it doesn’t cause a rift. I don’t want to coddle Beej, but I would negotiate, such that, a future long-term deal includes a very favorable home-town discount. It’s the only way we could even think of resigning him once he bursts from his cocoon.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Garza becomes the Rays highest paid starter
Entire rotation will cost ~$8.5 million (Kazmir will make $8 million in 2010).
Upton’s value doesn’t translate into arb. His triple crown stats were ugly the last two seasons and he has no all star appearances to pad his resume. I’m assuming the Rays have a number they feel will hold up in arbitration and stood firm.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jan 19, 2010 3:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Papeldouche gets $9.35m
Sox are paying him 850k more to close than we’re paying our entire starting five combined.
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Its just a shame they don't have the restiction of a $70 million payroll
Also our closer makes almost as much as our rotation
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by Some other guy who does not care on Jan 19, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm all for Soriano at 7 this year
but we are living in a glass house so throwing stones could be a disaster.
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by R.J. Anderson on Jan 19, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Heck, Wagner got $7mil...and he's ancient.
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Seems a little low to me
I think Upton’s agent can probably make a solid argument that Upton’s salary figure should be based on 40% of what Mike Cameron just signed for on the open market, or about $3.2 million. While Upton’s line was significantly worse last year, Upton’s career slash lines are about what Cameron has done in recent seasons, and it’s not a stretch for him to say they make a similar defensive contribution.
On the other hand, Scott Podsednik was just signed on the open market for $1.75 million, so I guess that could be the argument the Rays need to scoot that number way down.
Anyway, $2.0M seems like tempting fate a bit. I’d guess probably a few hundred K higher.
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Topkin is reporting the numbers are
3M for the Rays vs 3.3M for Upton
More than I expected.
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by Transplanted on Jan 19, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
If those are the figures
Upton’s screwed. No way he wins.
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I think you're right on. That's a lot more then I expected the Rays to offer. Upton's gonna get laughed out of that hearing.
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The arbitrator picks one or the other, right?
There’s no 3.15M option, IRRC.
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by FreeZorilla on Jan 19, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I believe they can still negotiate a multi-year deal.
Maby that is what this is all about.
Nah
Upton and his agent have been saying all along that they’re going the year-to-year route. He’ll still be 28 when he hits free agency. Even if he’s mediocre offensively until then, someone will overpay for the tools and the potential.
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If true, why go to arby?
The Rays and B.J. Upton did not reach a deal today, and his agent indicated that the two sides will head to an arbitration hearing according to Marc Topkin of The St. Petersburg Times (via Twitter). He later tweets that they may be just $300K apart.
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by EminenceFront on Jan 19, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
If they are really going to Arb over 300k...
Sounds like a rift already exists between BJ/his agent and the Rays.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Jan 19, 2010 11:32 PM EST reply actions
Got to do something else
to supplement that measly 400k salary.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Jan 19, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Playing Devil's Advocate(and noting it unlikely)...
If BJ would be willing to consider a 5-7 year, longer term deal at a mid-level rate ($3-5 per, bonus included, performance increase not factored), should management consider locking him in (ala’ Shields, Longoria)?
The DRaysBay’ers – as a collective – seem very high on BJ despite his struggles; I’m curious as to thoughts on this possibility. (It’s no doubt being proposed albeit not likely acted upon.)
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B.J. would literally spit in your face if you offered him that
He’s going to get 3ish for his first year of Arb and is likely to get 5ish and 8ish in the two following years if he plays the way he can. Not to mention the 8-figure salaries he will command once he reaches Free Agency. I think you could make an argument for something more along 4 years at 25-30M, but I still don’t think Beej would take that. He knows his value and his agent seems pretty savvy at maximizes his payout.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 20, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
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from the TBO.com article about the same signings…
Posted by ( opmac64 ) on 01/19/2010 at 10:19 pm.
BJ should play for what he made last year, he is a pain in the a** in the club house and he is a slacker in the game. As for Howell, he sucked last year when they needed him most and he gets a raise to do it. He was a joke the last month of the season, couldn’t pitch his way out of a paper sack. HE NEEDS TO GO TOO!!!
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 20, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
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