Rangers Remain Interested In Dioner Navarro
by Tommy Rancel on Jan 2, 2010 3:50 PM EST
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PrintAfter a few weeks of inactivity, the Rays have settled on the back burner of the Major League Baseball's hot stove. However, Richard Durrett of ESPNDallas reports that there may be some embers burning between the Texas Rangers and the Tampa Bay Rays. Durrett says the Rangers, desperate for a back-up to Taylor Teagarden, remain interested in Dioner Navarro.
The Rangers interest in Navarro is nothing new. Even before Navarro was re-signed to a one-year deal worth $2.1 million dollars, Texas was rumored to be kicking tires. Instead of non-tendering Navi and giving him away, the Rays bought themselves some time, and avoided a second straight arbitration hearing with Kendall Almerico, Navi's Agent, in the process with the one-year deal.
Like the Milton Bradley deal, I'm assuming any deal would have to happen on the Rays terms. There is no pressing need to trade Navarro, and his $2.1 million dollar salary isn't handcuffing the team. However, if the Rangers decide to throw a decent arm with controllable years, I'm sure the Rays wouldn't mind freeing up some salary room. If that were to happen the search for a back-up catcher would begin. Whether that would come within the organization or from outside remains to be seen.
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IF(huge IF) this rumor actually turns into a trade
then I want a young 1B, do they have any behind Davis and Smoak? At one point, I was praying for Navarro to be gone but now, it just worries me that Jaso/Lobaton will be getting AB’s during the season
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A meh one
Chad Tracy put up a .279 .333 .488 26HR 107RBI line in AA last year at age 24. He can also play LF. Don’t see that Rangers giving up much more then him and a Brennan Garr type reliever for Navarro.
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Original rumor was Navarro for Pedro Strop
Was reading scouting reports, he sits at 95 and can be a really good reliever. Maybe that deal works.
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I wouldn't mind it really.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Jan 2, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
This kills me...
Love the fact you guys dug up his MySpace page. Hysterical. Although I hope the ‘Haza’ isn’t the Scarface reference. Egads.
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So who's our backup catcher?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 2, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a little worried about Shopp defensively
It would be nice to have Navi provide a better bat than those guys while being a slight downgrade with the glove. It seems like he wears down over the year, not playing as much should help him be a better defender.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 2, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
The Rays aren't getting Strop for Navarro
Ain’y gonna happen.
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Personally I wouldn't be in favor of this at all.
We have no one to replace him with. If the trade did happen though, how about CJ Wilson coming back. I think their contracts and saleries are close.
This seems peculiar...
…perhaps Navi has more trade value than we think (based on his ability to call a game) if this rumor is correct.
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Strop
Hasn’t shown much production regardless of how he might project. Seems kinda Colome like (the Jesus type).
And if Shoppach gets hurt then where are the Rays if Navarro is gone?
The Rays should not trade Navarro at this point.
Right.
Because Navarro’s .219/.261/.322 from last year would be impossible to replace.
It's not all about hitting
Everyone is desperate for an experienced catcher that can hit as well as be solid behind the plate but it’s not easy to find one. It’s kind of late in the offseason to be looking for a catcher even a backup one. A better question is why would the Rays want to help the Rangers someone they are competing with for a possible wildcard with their problems at backstop when they have their own issues behind the plate? If the Rays trade Navarro at this point for a relief pitcher or a prospect with so much riding on the 2010 season then they are putting all the eggs in the Shoppach basket and good luck with that. They should have kept Zaun and for the life of me I don’t know why they didn’t.
If Lobaton > Navarro defensively
then how much worse could he possibly perform offensively in a limited basis (140 AB) than Navarro. Is this difference worth 1.6 M?
How can you have any pudding if you haven`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Jan 3, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Navarro is not a good hitter
When evaluating defense he measures about avg based on CS%, WP/PB, etc.
When looking at pitcher performance with Navi behind the dish:
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/7/29/966577/navarro-vs-hernandez-more-analysis
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/7/13/947720/evaluating-the-rays-starting
People making the case for Navi are making it based on familiarity alone given the makeup of a Shoppach/Navi platoon
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He shouldn't be expected to repeat that brilliant season
It appears that he is a much better defender than Shoppach. Mad Dog would be able to get him in the lineup here and there even if he only wOBA’s at .300. As mentioned above, I think he will also see a benefit from not having to play everyday.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 3, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Concur.
Although all of this (emphasis on D-centric backstop) makes me wonder why we let Zaun walk so easily. Perhaps I’m missing something, but his price tag didn’t seem that expensive.
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Send him away for a bag of peanuts
The reason to sign him (IMO) was to trade him for SOMETHING rather than giving him away for nothing by non-tendering him. Once the team can get something, they should trade him. Maybe his salary isn’t handcuffing the team, but unless he bounces back to Dodgers form, he has negative value.
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On the other hand...
…there is a possibility last year – like many of the players on the AL Champs squad – Navi had an anomalous down year. He was, remember, quite good in 2008. So my Navi World Series Patch jersey tells me. :)
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Question?
Why do the Rangers want Navi as a back-up? Whatever happened to Saltalammachia?
Injured and may not be ready to start the season.
How can you have any pudding if you haven`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Jan 4, 2010 7:02 AM EST up reply actions
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