The Cost of a Win Distributions by Salary Range
Last week I took a look at how the top of the Rays' payroll grossly underperformed the Yankees and the Red Sox's production in 2009 even when scaling for the salaries. Steve Slowinski brainstormed that perhaps there is less variance in production among the most expensive salaries. I decided to put that theory to the test. The first chart we will look at consists of players making in excess of $2 million in 2009. To qualify, you must have either signed a fair market deal, be in your final year of arbitration, or signed away your cost-controlled years in a long-term deal.
On the free agent market, players typically go for $3-4 million per expected win using Fangraph's WAR. Anything below $3 million/win should be seen as great value, while every increment above $5 million speaks further and further to a bust. For the sake of consolidation, every WAR greater or equal to 0, or players at or below replacement value were lumped in with all players who earned $10 million per win. These players were grossly overpriced.
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Steve's theory looks pretty good. At the $2 million range, players rarely achieve a normalized level of production of $3-5/Win. It's clearly boom or bust but at a low real cost. In the middle ranges, the expected price for production is increasing, the gross out-performers are decreasing, though the rate of failure remains high. Once the salary range eclipses $13 million, the predictability of the player's production does indeed seem to be on the rise.
We know that the lower cost players' production fluctuates a great deal. Let's focus on the $6 million plus players the rest of the way. Instead of lumping all Major League Baseball players together, we will break them out into positional players, starting pitchers, and the bullpen. First, the starters:
Here's my chance to tie this in with the Rays. The Rays have made it a point to stock the farm system with quality starting pitching. Looking at this chart should give an idea why. The Rays well-above average rotation (Shields, Garza, Price, Niemann, Davis) will cost a total of about $8.5 million in 2010. Healthy pitchers are fairly predictable. However the issue of health is a major concern for pitchers relative to positional players. The players purple bar ($10mil+/Win) is largely indicative of players whose seasons were cut well short due to injury. With a limited payroll the Rays are able to reallocate the cost of a $13 million + pitcher into several position players. If one of the Rays quality low cost starters go down, inexpensive Andy Sonnanstine or top prospect Jeremy Hellickson will be able to fill in with a very small drop-off in talent. Now let's turn our attention to the bullpen:
As I commented last week, our best case scenario for $7 million closer Rafael Soriano is to get out of him exactly what the Rays paid for. Sadly, it's far more likely to get much less. This is further proof of how typically it is a poor allocation of assets to dump a lot of money into a closer. Finally, the position players:
As with starting pitching, there is still a surprisingly large amount of failure. The risk with hitters was more of a decline in production than with injury. The urge to watch your team dump a large sum of money into a particularly player is hard to resist. Watching the Yankee steamroll through the season last year makes it all the more tempting. The Yanks will be hard pressed to survive 2010 as healthy as they did in 2009 given the age of the team. If the lineup and rotation holds up, they will be pretty unstoppable. The odds seem to be against the likelihood of that occurring.
Finally let's look at the aggregate of each grouping. We achieve this $/Win by adding up the total salary for the group and dividing by the total WAR:
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$/Win in millions |
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$6-10/mil StPitching |
$ 3.79 |
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$6-10/mil Positional |
$ 4.15 |
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$10+/mil Positional |
$ 5.29 |
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$11+/mil StPitching |
$ 5.35 |
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$6+/Mil Relievers |
$ 14.33 |
While the findings are interesting, it is important to remember it's just one season of data. With youth and depth on our side, the Rays could be well positioned to survive the war of attrition that is the 162 game season in the AL East.
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Recently, there has been a lot of talk about Relievers/WAR
For closers especially, its hard to ever find a bargain for a closer making a decent salary. Even the great Mariano is considered “overpaid” or not a great value by WAR cause of his salary, but we all know how great he is. Like a lot of metrics, its best to look at multiple ways of value, however for quick/easy reference WAR is still my preferred metric.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jan 21, 2010 8:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Stlll, like Soriano most of the guy are priced toward the expectation of 2 WAR
And fell well short. I was interested in applying one of the formulas being discussed of late but could not any sort of consensus outside of WAR maybe not being a great tool
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by FreeZorilla on Jan 21, 2010 8:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A few people have tried to suggest changes to WAR especially for relievers,
But I’ve yet to see anything really new pop up. Hopefully, someone smarter will figure it out for us.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jan 21, 2010 8:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
1 save = $1 million
Problem fackin sawlved, Trance L.
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by PlayOnWords on Jan 21, 2010 8:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's a sticky wicket, but I think relievers should be looked at relative to each other, rather than relative to the rest of MLB
It’s like trying to use WAR to predict AL MVP. Yes Zobie had the most WAR, but it doesn’t account for catcher defense. Mauer would have to be terribad behind the plate to not have accumulated more WAR than Zobie. I still think War is fine to compare relievers to relievers, much like you can still compare catchers to catchers.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 21, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Reliever production certainly should be compared to other relievers.
however in the context of roster construction you need to figure out just how much of a teams payroll the pen is worth. To compare a relievers worth to starting pitchers and positionals is unavoidable. The challenge is to improve on a current metric.
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by FreeZorilla on Jan 21, 2010 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
OT: FreeZo, I was wondering if you saw
THIS, and what your thoughts might be. Seems pretty interesting at face value, but it seems like the author doesn’t put much stock in his findings.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 21, 2010 10:22 AM EST reply actions
Looks interesting
Sadly, I can’t see the graphics.
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by FreeZorilla on Jan 21, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Carlos Hernandez would make a good reliever
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 21, 2010 11:22 AM EST reply actions
More Reliever #'s
Over the past 3 years, there have been a total of 34 seasons with a WAR of 2 or higher.
Of those 34, there are 5 pitcher with multiple seasons of 2.
Rivera 3
Broxton 3
Papelbon 2
Nathan 2
Bell 2
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Over the past 3 seasons, there are only 9 pitchers who have avged 1.5 WAR/season
Rivera
Papelbon
Broxton
Nathan
Soria
Thornton
Bell
Betancourt
Cordero
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by FreeZorilla on Jan 21, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Thornton is the balls
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 21, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions

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