Report : Tampa Bay Rays "eyeing" Chan Ho Park
For all his flawed views on defensive metrics, Ruben Amaro Jr. seems to have figured out that a league average starting pitcher may prove to be a useful part to the bullpen. Recently, he signed Jose Contreras, a pitcher that I feel can be a very nice addition if used in the proper bullpen role. Contreras was signed in part to replace Chan Ho Park, who was also once a pretty average (well paid) starting pitcher, but flourished by a move to the bullpen; so much so that he has caught the eye of the Rays front office according to Jon Heyman.
His name has been tossed around on this site throughout the off season, but never was really considered a viable option to do his perceived price tag. It is reported that he turned down the Phillies offer of one-year and three million dollars last month. If that is true, then Park may have overestimated his value and underestimated that we are in a buyer's market. For comparison, Octavio Dotel will carry the closer's tag for the Pittsburgh Pirates and signed for a base salary of around $3 million. With pitchers and catchers reporting in three weeks, Park is likely to come as a bargain for the next team that signs him.
Originally a starter, I would assume that his heart is still tied to that role; however, the market cares not feelings and may dictate Park's role for him. This is is not a bad thing. While he made a lot of money as a starter, his clear value to teams these days is in the bullpen. This past season he threw 50 innings out of the bullpen and earned a shiny 2.52 ERA. Normally, an ERA that low would come with a buyer beware tag, but his FIP of 2.10 was nearly a half run lower. Of course the fact that he didn't allow a home run in relief helps, but even his expected FIP of 3.16 is stellar.
Not surprisingly, the move to a relief role enhanced a few important facets of Park's game. His strikeouts increased to nearly 9.5 per nine while his BB/9 came in below 3. He also saw a nice increase in velocity from around 90 MPH on his fastball to an average of over 92 MPH coming in relief. In 33 innings as a starter, he threw nearly 21% sliders and got a whiff 6.5% of the time. During his 50 innings in the pen, he threw nearly 25% sliders and induced a swing and a miss 15.6% of the time. He also threw about 3% more curve balls and watched the percentage of whiffs rise from the mid-6% as a starter to 14.4% when not starting. The improved breaking balls also led to more ground balls and he finished the season slightly above his 45% GB%.
Heyman mentions that the Cubs as well as other teams join the Rays in there interest of Chan Ho Park and it's pretty easy to see why: whiffs, strike outs, and ground balls are things you want from a reliever and Park possessed all three last season. He is also the owner of a nifty platoon split that has held right-handed batters to a slash line of .227/.311/.355 in over 4,200 plate appearances. Left-handed batters do well against him, but that's all the more reason he should be used as a match-up reliever instead of a starter. All the things mentioned above are nice, but Park may have just acquired the most important traits the Rays are looking for; he should come cheap and be willing to sign a short-term deal.
If nothing else, Park's drop kicking ability fits with the Rays need for more Brawl-fense.
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...teams in the majors,
due 100% to scouting. I don’t think that qualifies as a “flaw”.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 26, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yes. He still thinks fielding percentage tells you all you need to know about defense.
But, he still has a WS ring so that belief hasn’t held him back.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jan 26, 2010 7:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he just thinks fielding percentage is the only defensive stat worth a damn, not that it's the only thing worth looking at.
He trusts his eyes and his scouts and apparently, they’re both very good at their job.
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Also helps that some of the talent was already in place before he took over full time.
Chase Utley would make a lot of GMs look smart. Erik and I were discussing this earlier, but I wonder how much credit should go to Mike Flanaghan as far as scouting talent.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jan 26, 2010 8:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not as a top decision maker though.
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by PlayOnWords on Jan 26, 2010 8:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Probably my favorite from the LL laundry list

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
His lawn dart at Yankee stadium was a classic also.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jan 26, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yes because he invalidates Utley, Rollins, Feliz, Victorino, Werth, Ruiz
And because Amaro clearly signed him for his defense. Also it’s funny because UZR had Raul as a plus defender last year. That either means that A) Raul wasn’t as bad as his past UZR said, or B) UZR’s swings in variability make it limited as a stat. Either way, it completely justifies Amaro’s position.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 26, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Great pic
He looks like a supervillain. That’s gotta be worth a million by itself.
Chan Ho Park
that’s three last names in one name
by BrendanHarrisLives on Jan 26, 2010 1:42 AM EST reply actions
The English equivalent of this is someone named
Brown Smith Jones.
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by PlayOnWords on Jan 26, 2010 8:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Only thing I care about
Is if he will participate in Maddon’s costume road trips.
Hard to see him getting the 1/3 he turned down
Of course there are some GMs who might panic, but I think a 1yr/2m deal is more likely at this point which would be pretty good.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jan 26, 2010 7:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't mind adding 2 of 3 between Chan Ho Park, Jim Thome and Kiko Calero.
At this point how much more can Thome can expect than league min w/ incentives or close to it?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jan 26, 2010 8:14 AM EST reply actions
This. Plus, super easy accessable starting pitching depth if we're besigued by injuries. This is a win/win at a 1M deal.
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If, as Trance L suggests, he'll be a ROOGY
Are Thayer, Abreu, or Bateman that much worse?
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by PlayOnWords on Jan 26, 2010 9:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I would say yes, it's not like one of those replacement level players could be counted on for
a sub-3 FIP with over a K an inning and low walk rates.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Your moms vag is replacement level.
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by PlayOnWords on Jan 26, 2010 9:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can't irrationally hate Abreu and irrationally love Thayer, so I'm compromising by hating both for now.
Neither are capable of putting up the season that Ho just had out of the pen.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Chan Ho can be counted on for a sub-3 FIP in the ALE?
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 26, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just throwing out a number
Do you think those three could be counted on for a sub-4 FIP? Sub-5? Abreu’s pitches have more frequent flier miles than Frank Abagnale. So can we surmise that you are decidedly against Chan Ho Tep turning the Trop into Thunderdome?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
When is your fantasy leauge going to get up and running and can I get a spot?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jan 26, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I figured I'd put a post up when P&C report and traffic picks up.
Then we rec it, leave it up for a week or two, and start the league.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, commercials have ruined my ability to stay awake during games
Apparently, I missed a good end to the Vikings game, but I couldn’t stay awake while they were trying to get me to buy a new car or phone or mistress.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, asking whether you seriously think Ho Park can post a sub-3 FIP in the ALE means I don't like him.
Good eye.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 26, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
He was great last year, but at the same time, I don't think he's going 50 innings without giving up a homer again.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 26, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
No doubt, thanks to xFIP we know that if he had given up a homer at league-average rates his FIP would
have been 3.16. Pretty good.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks bud.
Did I misread where Trance-L said he had a FIP of 2.10 out of the pen last year? Sure it’s not the ALE and that is due for regression, but how much? Would you tack on an entire 1.00 just for the division switch? He had a 4.34 xFIP in relief in 2008 and 3.16 xFIP in relief in 2009. If he’s somewhere around 4, he’s the 2nd or 3rd best reliever on the team.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
A half a run at the absolute most.
The Trop is a pitchers’ park, so it will combat some of that.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 26, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
CHONE has him at 4.4.
I’m guessing that’s with the starting appearances thrown in. I’d probably say closer to 3.5-4 at this point, but that’s premature.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 26, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Saw that and thought the same myself
Think we’re still in the Thome sweepstakes?
Went back and checked the SSS look at NL RP to the AL
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/12/10/1194190/report-tampa-bay-rays-to-deal
They gain ~1 run of FIP. I’m not too confident in that sample size though.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 26, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
You have to use xFIP looking forward
I’m pretty confident in a ranged of 3.75-4.25, which carries a ton of value, especially if he can be durable at all.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
We're only talking about $1-3M too.
And I’m sure he’d find his way into high leverage spots.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 26, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Not too mention that he could be valuable in keeping Hellickson's in Durham in event of
a 15-day DL trip. I don’t think him making 3 starts would cripple our season, although I suppose Sonny could provide that same utility.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Or Hernandez.
I guess that’s my one qualm. How much better would he be than Sonny or Hernandez in this role?
CHernobel could make a good reliever
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/relievers-in-the-rough/
So could Davis. It’s kind of interesting that you mention it because I would want Chan Ho Tep as more of a 7th inning guy. If he’s not the long-man, then chances are he would see much work as a spot starter. Does Sonny still have an option left? I like having him on speed dial while he works on his confidence.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
One I believe.
I do see him as the 7th inning guy until Balfour proves he isn’t as good. Then allow Balfour/Howell to be the firemen/8th inning guys.
I left out a not
If he’s not the long-man, then chances are he would NOTsee much work as a spot starter.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
The xFIP net is actually a smaller gain.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 26, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
A 3.5 FIP over 50 innings would be worth about .7 WAR
That would be a nice 4th/5th option out of the pen.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jan 26, 2010 10:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah that's more in line with what I would think
As you mentioned below (above?) 3.5-4.0 for less than Dan Wheeler would be outstanding.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
It doesn't look like he made any relief appearances when he was stinking it up for the Rangers
Most of those are with the Dodgers, pitchers park/weak stick division, so even if you roll that up a little, he’s still pretty good. I’m kind of surprised at the lack of interest if he can really be had for something ~1/3.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 26, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
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by Tommy Rancel on Jan 26, 2010 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I watched several Philly games last year
And chan ho park was fantastic. He can dial it up to 96 out of the pen, and his slider is as good as price’s was in the playoffs. His stuff is good enough that i would think he could realistically be counted on to put up an xFIP of 3.5 at the very least.
by benderbrodriguez on Jan 26, 2010 2:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions

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