The Value of the Rays' DH Hole
The Designated Hitter should hit, right? I mean, that's all they're supposed to do. They sit in the dugout watching the game, chewing gum, spitting, whatever they want until they're called upon 4 or so times a game to do what they're generally paid millions of dollars. It seems, however, that lately DHs around th league have struggled.
|
Year |
wOBA |
bRAA |
|
2001 |
0.344 |
3.934 |
|
2002 |
0.345 |
6.269 |
|
2003 |
0.345 |
5.488 |
|
2004 |
0.346 |
2.811 |
|
2005 |
0.341 |
4.327 |
|
2006 |
0.354 |
6.655 |
|
2007 |
0.351 |
8.069 |
|
2008 |
0.340 |
3.486 |
|
2009 |
0.343 |
2.694 |
|
2010 |
0.332 |
3.265 |
A few notes about the statistics:
Especially the last three years, the DH hasn't been much better than the average hitter. The high-point from 2006-2007 was somewhat a mirage due to a few outstanding seasons by a couple of outstanding DHs.
|
Team/year |
wOBA* |
bRAA |
|
2010 MIN |
.370 |
24.834 |
|
2010 BAL |
.364 |
21.112 |
|
2010 |
.358 |
18.704 |
|
2010 TOR |
.311 |
-8.943 |
|
2010 LAA |
.309 |
-9.851 |
|
2010 SEA |
.276 |
-28.390 |
|
2009 NYY |
.375 |
21.354 |
|
2009 TOR |
.368 |
17.332 |
|
2009 LAA |
.363 |
15.015 |
|
2009 BAL |
.330 |
-4.669 |
|
2009 DET |
.318 |
-11.774 |
|
2009 KCR |
.291 |
-26.238 |
|
2008 |
.387 |
31.984 |
|
2008 NYY |
.374 |
22.828 |
|
2008 BOS |
.359 |
15.086 |
|
2008 DET |
.315 |
-11.341 |
|
2008 CLE |
.313 |
-12.687 |
|
2008 SEA |
.283 |
-28.636 |
|
2007 BOS |
.419 |
50.528 |
|
2007 TOR |
.380 |
24.844 |
|
2007 CHW |
.376 |
22.702 |
|
2007 BAL |
.314 |
-12.358 |
|
2007 KCR |
.312 |
-13.952 |
|
2007 LAA |
.309 |
-15.542 |
|
2006 CLE |
.416 |
43.394 |
|
2006 CHW |
.397 |
32.658 |
|
2006 BOS |
.394 |
32.074 |
|
2006 |
.310 |
-18.394 |
|
2006 SEA |
.302 |
-22.434 |
|
2006 MIN |
.294 |
-26.316 |
As you can see the 2006 and 2007 seasons were both anchored by a few big years by big-name DHs. In 2007 David Ortiz destroyed the ball, and he helped Pronk put up huge numbers in 2006 as well. The bottom 3 each year generally hovers around the same ineptitude. It's somewhat surprising (to me at least) just how hard it is to hit without playing the field. We've all seen it here with Pat Burrell or Wily Aybar or whomever the Rays have asked to JUST HIT. While we can see the Rays haven't been in the bottom or top 3, how have they fared in the last 5 years?
|
Year |
wOBA* |
bRAA |
|
2010 |
.324 |
-1.528 |
|
2009 |
.331 |
-3.677 |
|
2008 |
.343 |
4.671 |
|
2007 |
.321 |
-8.720 |
|
2006 |
.332 |
-5.349 |
The Rays' DH position has been bad. Only one year (the Magical 2008) have the Rays even been above average (thanks Cliff!), so any gains we could get from the position would be a huge plus. This makes finding production there quite a bit easier, and it's a position where we can easily make gains lost from CC or potential bullpen depletion. We'll be free of Burrell's ineptitude and price tag; and with the potential Pena departure (coupled with the loss of CC's LH-bat), a right-handed platoon DH/1B with Johnson could work or another lefty would be fine. Looking over the potential FA bats that shouldn't use a glove, there seem to be more options than teams. Thome, Dunn, Ramirez, Damon, Giambi, Matsui, etc., etc. could all work because of our openings. I'd imagine one or two of these guys could sign somewhere for relatively cheaply. Here's a rough projection of the bRAA we might expect from some FA names that jumped out at me:
|
Player |
Projection |
|
28.8 |
|
|
25.7 |
|
|
24.5 |
|
|
22.8 |
|
|
20.8 |
|
|
20.6 |
|
|
16.1 |
|
|
14.6 |
|
|
13.9 |
|
|
13.7 |
|
|
10.8 |
|
|
10.2 |
|
|
7.8 |
|
|
6.5 |
|
|
3.9 |
*The projection is a 5-4-3 weighted average of the last 3 years discounted 10% as most of these guys are on the tail end of their careers.
As you can see there are 15 names here ranging from All-Star caliber bats to complimentary role player bats that will come in for much cheaper and could provide an upgrade. If we can squeeze 10 more offensive runs than we did last year (pretty much any of these projections adds that), then that will put us that much closer to replacing CC. If we can get 5 bRAA from the DH next year, that would place the production from our DH in the top half of the league every one of the last three years. If we can get more than 10 bRAA from the DH position, then we'd be in the top 5 of the league every year. In my opinion, we could see quite an upgrade without much of a cost outlay. We might even be able to add two of these bats with the hole at 1B that also could open with Pena's impending free agency. Since 2008 the Rays have gotten about 4.7, 2.7, and 1.1 wins combined from DH and 1B. If we can get just one win from the DH and 2 from 1B, then we'd see a 2 win upgrade from last year. That's a big start to replacing what we lose from Crawford leaving.
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Hell yeah it is.
Any amount of points can be scored week to week. well, besides 1 point. Any number is as likely to be reached as another, since there’s only one of each number, each has the same chance to be hit. IT’s how the syetemof averages works.
by waltermercier on Sep 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 11, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions
Lance Berkman?
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Yes
One full year removed from knee surgery and being able to get days off just to DH, he is a logical fit for the Rays. Good contact, OBP guy who walsk and doesn’t KO (a’la Pena), the reward that he can rebound to 25+ HR’s, 90 RBI’s and a .300 BA is worth it. He plays an above average defense and I’m sure he could be signed for 4 million for a year. Rays wanted him badly at the deadline too.
I like D-Lee as 1B/DH if he's cheap enough...
But I’m biased from watching his years in Chicago. He never looked right in 2010, but he did have a .400+ wOBA in 2009. Of course, given his defensive reputation (though UZR seems schizophrenic on him year over year), you’d probably pencil in him for 1st.
Of course, with thumb surgery, who knows.
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Manny please
love it love it love it
i hate one person more than Pap smear—his name is bin laden
by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
I used to be on board with this,
but after seeing Burrell screw the pooch because he wanted to play the field, I’ve changed my mind. Granted, I don’t think Dunn is like Burrell, But then again, 2 years ago, I didn’t think Burrell was like Burrell.
…Burrell
I think the AL pitching was a bigger hinderance than just DHing than he let on
Not that he could DH either.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Nov 11, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
There are some really, really good options here.
I guess a lot depends on money, but I’d love a Manny//Lee/Johnson combo at 1B/DH.
That would be amazing.
love it love it love it
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
Those 2010 MIN numbers look pretty damn good
Maybe we should get that guy
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Also, the good thing about using the bRAA numbers is they are already park/league adjusted.
If someone hasn’t DHed before you could always dock them 5 more percent.
Great read RAG, been looking for something like this for a while
For SnG’s I looked up Brad Hape and a poor imitation of your system yields a bRAA of 17.0. I’d still love to see DanJo, Hawpe, and a Righty like Derrick Lee (Manny would be great to see, but I’d prefer someone that can actually play a little 1B and Hawpe is already one below-average defender).
Hell yeah it is.
Any amount of points can be scored week to week. well, besides 1 point. Any number is as likely to be reached as another, since there’s only one of each number, each has the same chance to be hit. IT’s how the syetemof averages works.
by waltermercier on Sep 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 11, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions
My fault I didn't realize you were using Stat Corner's bRAA
Make that 14.3 discounted bRAA, putting him between Maggs and Vladdy. Still a nice option to pair with a RH bat
Hell yeah it is.
Any amount of points can be scored week to week. well, besides 1 point. Any number is as likely to be reached as another, since there’s only one of each number, each has the same chance to be hit. IT’s how the syetemof averages works.
by waltermercier on Sep 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 11, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
I used FG's bRAA, so you were right the first time.
I have no issue bringing Hawpe or Pena back (offer ‘em both arb. and see what happens), and if they decline I’ll take the pick(s).
Worst case scenario: they both accept, and you look to trade one or start DJ in AAA (if that's possible?).
Wonder if you could package one of them with MVB to get a better prospect (though I liked your Johnson idea).
I wouldn't offer Arb to Hawpe-way too risky still
Pena getting arb is becoming increasing interesting since there’s a lot of talk of his popularity on the FA market by teams like WAS.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Nov 11, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Why is it too risky?
You can release him before ST, and you owe him nothing I believe. Why would his arb. number be high anyway?
If you get the non-guarantee thing then it's okay to offer
Just don’t want any potential dead weight floating around.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Nov 11, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Manny adds +10 balla status
Deal with it.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT

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