With Arbitration Deadline Approaching, Rays Have Decisions To Make
If you didn't know, tomorrow is the deadline for teams to offer arbitration to free agents. The Rays have the largest amount of eligible players (9) in the majors, meaning the Rays have some work to do in the next 24-36 hours. Here's the full list of eligible players:
Type A*
Carl Crawford
Grant Balfour
Rafael Soriano
Dan WheelerType B**
Carlos Pena
Joaquin Benoit
Randy Choate
Brad Hawpe
Chad Qualls
*If a player with Type A status declines arbitration and signs elsewhere, the Rays would get two compensation draft picks for that player in the 2011 draft: the team's first round draft pick and a supplemental pick at the conclusion of the first round. However, if the signing team's first round slot is within the first 15 picks, that pick is protected and the Rays would get their second round pick instead.
**If a player with Type B status declines arbitration and signs elsewhere, the Rays would get one supplemental draft pick after the first round.
Those are a lot of potential draft picks on the table, but the Rays aren't likely to offer arbitration to all of these players due to salary issues. In arbitration, players rarely receive salaries dramatically different from their previous salaries. They may get a 10-20% decrease or increase depending on how they performed last season, but for the most part salaries stay the same more than they change. Because of this, the Rays will probably only make offers to two kinds of players: those they know will decline arbitration and elect free agency, or those that they would like to retain at a level similar to their current salary.
Where does that leave us? Let's take a look.
The Yes's
Carl Crawford and Rafael Soriano are undoubtedly going to decline arbitration and seek large contracts on the free agent market, so the Rays will offer to both of them. Joaquin Benoit has already signed a contract, so he'll be "offered arbitration" and we'll receive a supplemental pick for him. Also, Grant Balfour will be offered arbitration because a) the Rays would love to bring him back for something close to his $2M salary, and b) he may want to seek a contract on the open market like Benoit's.
Similarly, the Rays will offer Randy Choate arbitration because he only made $700K last season and was very effective out of the bullpen. He's already garnered some attention on the free agent market, though, so Choate may want to try and receive a larger salary from elsewhere.
The No's
Carlos Pena, Brad Hawpe, and Chad Qualls all had disappointing 2010 seasons yet received quite large salaries. Do the Rays want to pay around $10M for Pena, $4M for Qualls, or $7M for Hawpe? I doubt it, so they'll decline to offer arbitration unless they have reliable information that one of these players would decline arbitration. I'm sure the Rays would love to bring back Pena or Qualls for the right price, but in this case, arbitration isn't the route to go to get a bargain.
Dan Wheeler is an interesting case, considering that he has a high potential reward (Type A status) but also a high salary for a middle reliever ($4M). Wheeler has been quite effective over the last few seasons and so he would not get a pay decrease through arbitration, and the Rays are already on the hook for $1M for buying out his 2011 team option. Type-A status can drive off potential buyers on the free market, especially if you're a middle reliever, so there's very little chance that Wheeler would decline arbitration if it's offered.
Conclusions
Remember, these are only educated guesses. From our estimates, though, the Rays could stand to pick up a maximum of 8 compensation draft picks. That number will go down if players like Grant Balfour or Randy Choate return to the Rays, and the Rays could always get stuck with second-round picks if Crawford or Soriano sign with a team with protected first round picks (like the Angels). Only time will tell how it all shakes out, but regardless, the Rays are in a good position.
Anyone else have any guesses on what the Rays will do?
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Disclaimer: I completely made that 10-20% figure up.
It feels right to me, but what do others things….is that about right or am I off?
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by Steve Slowinski on Nov 22, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions
A player cannot receive less than 80% of his salary from the previous year if offered arbitration.
No matter how terrbile their season was.
Perfect...that's what I was looking for.
I didn’t know the exact rule, but I thought there was something like that.
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by Steve Slowinski on Nov 22, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
That's not relevant here because that's only for players under team control.
FA eligible players aren’t held to that figure.
Maybe not
But functionally, I don’t think an arbitrator has EVER dropped a player below that mark.
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Ega is right on decreases
But on increases, it can go up a lot more than 20%. It’s the same as the rest of arbitration – the team puts in their number, the player puts in his, and the arbitrator picks the one he thinks is closer to being right. With guys who are free agents because last season was their last year of arbitration eligibility (like Balfour), the jump can be pretty significant.
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That's a good point.
I guess the main point is that salaries almost never go down, but always stay stable or go. Balfour could get a pretty decent sum in arb this season, but then again, he’ll probably get a nice contract on the FA market too.
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by Steve Slowinski on Nov 22, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
One item
on the arbitration hearing for players who aren’t under team control (not that it has ever happened this way!), but the contracts awarded in arbitration are not guaranteed. A team could cut the player in Spring Training and pay a pro-rated portion of the players “arbitration win”.
I read that somewhere too, and I really wonder what the deal with it is.
Like why would they not just offer everyone then? If they accept, try and trade. If you can’t trade them, release them.
Serious? That's rather weird...there's got to be some reason more teams don't so this.
I guess you’re screwing those players over if you’re not planning on keeping them.
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by Steve Slowinski on Nov 22, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
tradition would be my guess
Screwing over a player and then having to deal with that agent again in the future. Also, the gain of a compensation pick vs the dollars of a buyout and loss of good will probably isn’t worth the hassle.
IIRC
What i’ve read is the MLBPA can/ will file a grievance if this is done in a manner in which the team was predetermined to release the player when offering arb, if it wasn’t because of a sudden skill decrease (or injury etc….).
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Nov 22, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling we will have deals made with a few players beforehand.
Hopefully Wheeler. Maybe Pena and Hawpe.
I could see us making deals with Pena and Hawpe.
But I don’t see it with Wheeler…he has no incentive to have Type A pricetag hanging over his head this off-season.
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by Steve Slowinski on Nov 22, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Pena is a real 50/50 on the arb front
He is drawing enough interest you have to consider it.
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Oh yeah, I can agree there.
Honestly, I would be surprised if any of the guys I listed as “No” to get offers….I could see arguments for them all. I just think it’s still unlikely at this point.
With Pena, I think it depends how much he wants to maximize his money versus if he wants a longer contract. He’ll probably get more per year if he accepts arb and comes back to the Rays, but it’d only be for one more year. Does he try and look for a longer contract on the market? I dunno.
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by Steve Slowinski on Nov 22, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well, with Boras running around out there
You never know
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by Transplanted on Nov 22, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
the danger is if Pena decides to pull a Soriano
Pena is still young enough where he could accept arbitration, have a big year, and be in line for a much bigger payday. Boras very well could tell Pena to accept arbitration if offered, if anything, so he can still collect a fat paycheck and reestablish his market value for an even fatter paycheck in 12 mo.
by raysfaninminnesota on Nov 22, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
It is a real danger and it depends on whether or not Pena would ignore Boras to strike a deal.
If the Nationals are that interested, and their first round pick is protected, they should be fine to give up a second round pick and offer Pena a better deal than he can get with the Rays. It probably would however make more sense for Pena to do what you said and take the arbitration offer and aim for a big contract year from efforts in the 2011 season.
I don't think so.
He’s drawing interest in a range that’s probably a good few million less than if he accepts arb.
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My thoughts;
Choate will be the only one offerred arbitration (in my opinion).
Wheeler is the only iffy Type A and I’d lean against offerring him the compensation.
Agreed
on the guys who are borderline calls, anyway. Crawford, Soriano, Balfour and Benoit are all no-brainers to offer arb to.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Balfour
He’ll be offerred. I had Choate as the only Type B (outside of Benoit of course) to be offerred and Wheeler the only Type A that was iffy.
Should of wrote "Choate will be the only Type B offered arbitration (in my opinion).!!!



























