Nats want Garza/Greinke a lot

by joeybw on Dec 13, 2010 6:35 PM EST

However, the Rays want Ian Desmond and/or Jordan Zimmerman and that is unlikely according to reports. Honestly Zimmerman takes away the spot Hellickson would of just gotten and Reid Brignac/Sean Rodriguez is a good MIF for me.

So names being mentioned are Danny Espinona, Roger Bernadina would be available and it's possible that the Nationals would consider trading Drew Storen or Sean Burnett,

Thats MLBtr, rotoworld mentions Ramos

What do you think of a package of Espinona, Bernandia, Storen and Ramos for Garza?

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I want Norris, Kimball, and Storen. Nothing less.

I would be happy for alot more though.

by mr. maniac on Dec 13, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions

Thinking something like this ...

If I’m the Rays, the guys that interest me off the Nats roster are:

Tier 1 – Derek Norris, Jordan Zimmerman
Tier 2 – Danny Espinosa, Drew Storen, Ian Desmond, Wilson Ramos

One Tier 1 + One Tier 2
or
Three Tier 2
for
Garza

by thewb on Dec 13, 2010 10:44 PM EST reply actions

Norris, Willingham, Clippard

Throw in Bartlett and Colome

Hell yeah it is.
Any amount of points can be scored week to week. well, besides 1 point. Any number is as likely to be reached as another, since there’s only one of each number, each has the same chance to be hit. IT’s how the syetemof averages works.
by waltermercier on Sep 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 13, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions

Based on peripheral stats ... Zimmerman could be better than Garza going forward

Adding to Zimmerman (and his cost controlled years) another solid piece to mitigate the risk associated with his TJ and less of an overall track record makes some sense.

MLB Career

Zimmerman 8.75 k/9 2.87 bb/9 4.16 fip 3.57 xfip
Garza 7.10 k/9 3.18 bb/9 4.26 fip 4.45 xfip

Could be interesting to see if the Rangers or Yankees get into the fray now that they both missed out on Cliff Lee.

by thewb on Dec 14, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions

I like Zimmerman, both of em on the Nats

But the idea of trading Garza is to get a spot for Hellickson so unless we put Niemann in the pen which I think would work well, an SP is the last thing we need.

Price, Garza, Shields, Davis, Hellickson is too awesome, Niemann for closer?

by joeybw on Dec 14, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions

Zimmerman was just starting to dominate, consistently, before getting the TJ. He's a real good arm and already has his TJS out of the way, unlike Garza.

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 14, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions

Garza and Bartlett

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Padres deal fall through. I would take Mike Morse, Sean Burnett, Colin Balester and Winston Ramos for Garza and Bartlett. Morse could platoon with DanJo at 1B/DH.

Axtually, I think Garza goes to the Rangers for David Murphy and Darren O"Day

by halfabuc on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 AM EST reply actions

Both of those trades would be awful

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 14, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions

agreed

by rglass44 on Dec 14, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions

No interest in Zimmerman unless we are trading a SP for no reason

I would like Wilson Ramos, Drew Storen and Sean Burnett and if they wanna toss in Espinosa, then why not

or a little ML talent? Norris so we get our prospect, then Storen, Clippard and Willingham

Price, Garza, Shields, Davis, Hellickson is too awesome, Niemann for closer?

by joeybw on Dec 14, 2010 3:05 AM EST reply actions

I'd do Zimmerman for Garza...

Then trade another piece from the rotation, I wouldn’t call Jordan an upgrade year 1 (though he could be), but by the time he hits arb he will produce equal if not better numbers than Garza for ~5mil less. I’m probably projecting him too kindly, and the NL to AL transition is mentioned so often for a reason, but that kid is great.

Carlos Zambrano: 26.6 HR/FB

by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 14, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions