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Derek Jeter and Five Other Free Agents the Rays Should NOT Sign

Should the Rays sign Derek Jeter?

In a word: Absolutely Not.

I bring it up because since the off-season began, we've been pitching ideas for who the Rays should sign, from Magglio Ordonez to Lance Berkman, but we haven't had a good discussion about who we shouldn't sign.  As Andrew Friedman mentioned, "the market is flooded with players," but how often is a flood--a natural disaster--a good thing?  Sure, a free, working-condition, flat-screen TV might float up to your canoe (Joaquin Benoit), but generally you have to wade through all the filth to find some sustenance in an overpriced Taco Bell bag that you have to buy from the giant Crab-People that have taken over your town, the contents of which are--like everything from Taco Bell--more suited to be dropped directly into the toilet than to pass through your body (Pat Burrell).

Now that you're ready to run for the border, let's look at some free agents that the Rays should NOT sign this off-season.

1.  Derek Jeter, SS -- Let's just get this one out of the way, shall we?  I read an article about a week ago that suggested that the Rays or Red Sox should go after Jeter, the crown prince of the Yankee Empire.  From The Penalty Flag:

The difference between Boston and Tampa is that the Sox would do it out of spite just to upset the Yankees and play games while the Rays could actually help the organization by doing so.

First of all, as much as I despise the Red Sox, I do think they are above making an $80 Million dollar move out of spite.  Not much, though.

Now, for this being a savvy organizational move for the Rays: Well, we can't afford him.  That should end the argument right there, but let's pretend the Tooth Fairy's a Jeter fan and dropped Stu Sternberg an extra $80 Mil to sign him.  And Jeter has a home in Tampa so maybe we could get a 'home team' discount.  If every athlete--hell, half the athletes--with a home in Florida gave their respective teams a 'home team' discount, Florida would forever be the sporting pantheon of the universe.  Sadly, this is not the case.

How does Jeter help the Rays? With his bevy of Gold Gloves? (An award that even Yogi Berra knows is 50% fielding and 90% popularity.)  What about his declining OBP? (Which was closer to whipping-boy Carlos Pena's than you'd think.)  Jeter could certainly aid in blocking Reid Brignac's rise to an everyday starter.  So essentially, he'd be an expensive Jason Bartlett.

The only thing Jeter could bring to the organization is his name which would be used to put butts in the seats.  Do I think there would be more fans at the Trop if Jeter was on the team?  Around the internets there seems to be this thought that if Jeter became a Ray, all the Jeter/Yankee fans would follow.  This thought is mind-bottling to me.  Sure, it'd be a tent-pole event for a few months while ESPN got their rocks off on the 'rivalry' aspect of the game, but soon after the polish wears off, no one is coming to see Jeter the Ray.  Because, while the New York transplants love Jeter, they love him because he's a Yankee, not the other way around. 

Jeter is 74 hits away from 3000.  When he reaches this milestone, his fans want him to do it as a Yankee.  A few weeks ago, I was talking to a coworker about how Wade Boggs is the only player to homer on his 3000th hit, a feat he accomplished with the Devil Rays.  The response: "Wade Boggs played for the Devil Rays?"  If Boggs had homered on his 3000th as a Yankee or a Sawk, do you think anyone would not know this?

2.  Ronnie Belliard, 2B

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Manny Ramirez has been tagged as a buy low option for the Rays, and he might make a good fit.   Here's to hoping Andrew Friedman doesn't get him confused with Ronnie "Mini-Manny" Belliard.  Belliard has made a career as a Manny look-alike. Both guys were even together the last couple seasons with the Dodgers, which probably looked like Jenna Maroney dating her look-alike in 30 Rock.  I can see the Rays signing Manny to a $3 Million dollar deal and Belliard showing up like that cheap knock-off DVD of Mean Girls you bought from Hong Kong off EBay.  You said it was for your sister, but be honest, you don't even have a sister.

After the jump, #'s 3-6: The Walking Dead, a lesson in discretion, and a few familiar faces.

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3.  Jamie Moyer, SP

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Old Man Moyer is here for two reasons.  Most importantly, he's a starting pitcher and unless he wants to move to the pen we don't need him.  We all know the Rays have an overabundance of starters and while Friedman won't trade an asset away for anything less than perfect value, you know he's taking calls on every starter not named David Price.  

So why is Moyer on this list and not Cliff Lee or Chien-Ming Wang?  Because, Jamie Moyer is a zombie.  I, like any red-blooded, American Patriot, have been watching the Walking Dead on AMC this season and I feel I have conclusive evidence that Jamie Moyer is, in fact, a member of the undead.  The ageless wonder has pitched in the Bigs for 24 of his 48 years of age and despite having just had his 2011 season wiped away due to Tommy John surgery, announced that he plans to return in 2012.  If that's not the apocalypse the Mayans were talking about, then I don't know what is.  From the Philadelphia Daily News:

"Thanks to the advances in surgery, many pitchers have made successful returns to the mound after undergoing surgery similar to mine," Moyer is quoted as saying in a statement. "I look forward to the challenge of making a comeback for the 2012 season. I love this game and I still believe I can be a successful pitcher in the big leagues."

Sounds to me like: "Braaaaaaaains!"

4 and 5.  Akinori Iwamura and Kazuo Matsui, IF

[Note: Yes, I am aware that these two Japanese Imports have been exported, but that just proves I was right when I wrote this.]

As much as I loved Aki as a Ray, his post-Ray career dive bombed quicker than a-- Uh, never mind...

Both Aki and Matsui enjoyed a few years of success in the States, but like so many Japanese position players, failed to make it last.  The exception that proves the rule, of course, being Ichiro.

But, the reason Kaz Matsui would make a bad addition for the Rays is that he went on the DL in March of 2008 with a significant injury.  Significant, not in scale--he was back on the field in three weeks--but rather in style.  Kaz Matsui went on the DL in 2008 with an "anal fissure." [photo omitted]

Don't get me wrong, I've got sympathy for the man.  An anal fissure doesn't seem like the best injury to have while you're squatting to field ground balls, but how does something like this come out on an injury report?  Surely baseball players get embarrassing injuries all the time, but we don't hear about it because they shield the truth with a DL (groin), or DL (buttocks).  Felix Pie also went down in 2008 with a twisted testicle, an injury that clearly should have gotten the (groin) treatment, but not even that sounds as bad as an anal fissure.

So why is this bad for the Rays?  Well, KazMat must have either a greater language barrier than other players, a serious problem with discretion, or absolutely no shame.  Any one of these things combined with his last few mediocre seasons is enough for the Rays to steer clear.  We already have one 'AF', we don't need another.

6.  Carl Crawford, LF -- Yes, I know.  Carl Crawford is the sacred cow around these parts and his departure from the Rays leaves them empty, shallow, and cold.  You won't find many Carl Crawford haters around here--and you shouldn't.  He's the Rays career leader in Games, ABs, Runs, RBI, Hits, Singles, Doubles, Triples, Stolen Bases, and neck tattoos of the zodiac sign for Leo that someone might mistake for a sperm.  The guy has done it all and we should all appreciate that.  Hell, we haven't been plugging this whole "Thank You" campaign for nothing here.  But, should the Rays re-sign Carl Crawford as a free agent this off-season?  The answer is, sadly, no.

I realize there is a lot of discussion going on BWoodrum's rosterbation thread on this subject, and I'll point you there if you want a closer look at what everyone thinks the numbers are, but, as we've heard before, the Rays just can't afford Crawford.  Check that.  The Rays can afford Crawford, just not anyone else.  There are just too many holes.

Also, it boils down to the length of Crawford's new contract.  I don't generally speculate on contracts, but I'm going to ballpark it with $100 Million over six years (16.67 M/year).  Crawford is 29 going on 30 next year and makes the Rays better in 2011, but does he make the Rays better in the last year of his contract in 2016?  How about in 2015 or 2014?  Where does Crawford's production dip to the levels where he's not worth it anymore?  It's well known that Crawford's legs do not fare well over the course of a season at the Trop.  The turf doesn't give like real sod and that puts a hurting on the knees especially.  Sure, a new outdoor stadium could solve that, but only in Imaginationland will the Rays get one in time for Crawford to patrol left field for them.

Trying to sign Crawford is like a relationship where both people want to break up, but stay together out of convenience.  You are familiar with each other, you don't have to find a new place, and you have all the same friends.  It's easy to stay together, but the right thing to do is break up.  Carl Crawford and the Rays have shared a mutually beneficial relationship for the past nine years.  There is no need for them to be handcuffed to each other for another six.

As the hot stove heats up at the Winter Meetings, what free agents do you want the Rays to NOT go after?

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Can we add to this list?

1 Gabe Kapler

2 Matt Diaz

3 Scott Hairston

4 Any Hairston

5 Chad Durbin

6 Juan Cruz

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by sternfan1 on Dec 4, 2010 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

And he wouldn't require a major league contract.

Of course Rays would need to check his medicals, but if he’s healthy its worth the NRI.

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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 4, 2010 3:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

FWIW a bad attitude is apparently what got him kicked out of KC

and his performance wasn’t exactly good. Add injury-prone to the list, and I wouldn’t want him in my bullpen (if I had one)

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Dec 6, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

What you got against the Durbs?

Hell yeah it is.
Any amount of points can be scored week to week. well, besides 1 point. Any number is as likely to be reached as another, since there’s only one of each number, each has the same chance to be hit. IT’s how the syetemof averages works.
by waltermercier on Sep 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 4, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Great stuff, Jones.

Has anyone else seen Jonah Keri’s Twitter profile (or the site it came from)? Funny stuff.

A DRaysBay writer from Cubs Stats and Twitter @BradleyWoodrum

by BWoodrum on Dec 4, 2010 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks...

Yeah, i was going to use that pic as the title image, but was persuaded not to when i saw it on a few other blogs.

by CBJones on Dec 4, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Goodness...that Moyer picture is creepy as heck.

I’m also not really on the Konerko or Thome wagons….I feel like they’ll be way too expensive for what we’re hoping. They’re great bats but because of that, I can’t see them slipping through the cracks.

For the right price, obviously I’d love them. I just don’t think it’s likely they’ll be available at a price we’re able / willing to pay.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Dec 4, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

There's a photoshop tutorial for everything these days...

from zombies to energy drinks.

I agree with you those guys, Konerko especially.

Two guys that were in this piece, but got signed first were Burrell and Dunn. (hence the re-inclusion of Aki and Kaz). It’s kind of a superstitious thing on Dunn, since he’s been one of my favorite players for years now, but Burrell was a favorite of mine too before he became a Ray and stunk up the joint. Let’s just say Burrell has made me weary of the masher with poor defense who keeps saying over and over that he doesn’t want to DH and then comes to the American league.

I also am very against Nick Johnson, but that’s simply an durability thing.

by CBJones on Dec 4, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Rays will not sign any significant free agents.

Sternberg appears to be in a Marlin-like dump mode. By the way, I would be very surprised if Rays play .500 ball this year. Bullpen looks very weak unless McGee becomes Benoit like surprise. No power with Pena gone and Zorilla becoming Zoless. Sox added A Gonzalez-they will win AL East with his bat. I can’t wait to see Longoria’s reaction to being on a AAAA team. The whining will get loud.

by Raysballfan on Dec 4, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we won't sign anybody,

but you’re setting the o/u for wins at 81? I’ll take that bet.

by CBJones on Dec 4, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Care to bet, I can't wait to see what the excuses will be in 2011 for why the Rays hang around with these paper tigers

Hell yeah it is.
Any amount of points can be scored week to week. well, besides 1 point. Any number is as likely to be reached as another, since there’s only one of each number, each has the same chance to be hit. IT’s how the syetemof averages works.
by waltermercier on Sep 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 4, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

We're not in Marlin dump mode.

Considering how strong our roster and prospects our, the situations aren’t nearly the same.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Dec 4, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

are*

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Dec 4, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

See: Trever Miller, Jonny Gomes, Shawn Riggans, Troy Percival, Gary Glover, Edwin Jackson

and everything else that gave us heartburn in 2008.

On top of that, Crawford, Bartlett, and Aki had below league average hitting. I feel the 2011 team is already far superior to Kaz and the gang.

A DRaysBay writer from Cubs Stats and Twitter @BradleyWoodrum

by BWoodrum on Dec 5, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Not only was CC below average hitting

He missed a third of the season too(missed 53G). Only 2.5WAR, worst since 2003 for him. He was non-existent compared to his other years.

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Dec 5, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

everyone seems to be assuming Jaso, SeanRod, Reid, Davis and to a lesser extent

Matt Joyce are going to be more productive than 2010. This group snuck up on a lot of AL pitchers and got a lot of get it over the plate fastballs.

Two of this group will significantly regress and be sent down by July.

To hang in there, AF and team will need to adjust and backfill.

by drungo on Dec 5, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure why this will happen.

Joyce is the most likely to regress due to the smallish sample and pure platoon. None of the others really played all that well.

Jaso looked great compared to the mess the Rays had at catcher, but his numbers are far from gaudy.

Sean Rodriguez was about an average bat, as was Reid.

Davis progressed about as one should suspect out of a high end young arm in their first MLB stint.

I expect AF to do what he always does, find some cheap undervalued talent to slot in as major league backups.

by tallyray on Dec 5, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeter to sign with the Yanks

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/yankees-derek-jeter-agree-to-contract.html

See, I told you the Rays wouldn’t sign him. I’m less of a writer, more of a prophet.

by CBJones on Dec 4, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

I'm kind of like a reverse prophet. Demonstration:

“Adrian Gonzalez will get traded to the Red Sox.”

Ha! See I prophesied so well, it already happened!

Impressive, no?

A DRaysBay writer from Cubs Stats and Twitter @BradleyWoodrum

by BWoodrum on Dec 4, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

3 years for $51M?

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on Dec 5, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

There's also a hybrid option for a 4th year at $8M, IIRC.

I wonder what position a 40 year-old Derek Jeter would be best at? Left Out?

A DRaysBay writer from Cubs Stats and Twitter @BradleyWoodrum

by BWoodrum on Dec 5, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

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