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Dioner Navarro, Dodgers Close to a Deal

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Per ESPN:

In a development that probably eliminates any chance two-time All-Star and former Gold Glove catcher Russell Martin will remain with the Los Angeles Dodgers, the club is close to a one-year agreement with the catcher Martin replaced more than four years ago, free agent Dioner Navarro.

I think I speak for the entire Tampa Bay community when I say, "Thank goodness that's over." Dioner Navarro seemed like he had so much promise when the Rays acquired him from the Dodgers back in 2006, and four and a half seasons later, he's fallen well short of expectations. His plate discipline all but disappeared (he used to clock in around a 10% walk rate), his power never developed, his defense never improved, and his attitude got surly when the Rays demoted him to the minors this season. Especially with the unexpected emergence of John Jaso this season, I'm very, very glad to see Navarro head out the door.

That said, it's sad that Navarro's relationship with the Rays had to end on such a sour note. Lest we forget, Navarro was an All-Star in 2008 and although his performance that year was unsustainable, he was a big player in our run to the World Series. He's only 27 years old, so it's still possible that he'll turn his career around while playing in the weaker NL West division.

And so Navarro, despite your .194 batting average and .242 wOBA this past year, I feel like we deserve to give you a bit of a send off. If nothing else, thanks for all the Photoshop memories:

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Th...th...th...that's all, folks!

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I am one of the few here that always liked him.

In fact, I still rock my Navarro all-star jersey. He was what he was, an overrated catching prospect who put a couple of decent years together for teh team I love. No harm, no foul. Good luck in LA Navi.

by rglass44 on Dec 8, 2010 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

I feel like I was too harsh, but ah well.

I have fond memories of him back in 2008….he was a solid player then. Too bad things happened the way they did.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Dec 8, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh

Sounds like your describing JasonB, not Kendall Almerico’s protege who walked out on his team during the playoffs.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Give me a break.

“fat, selfish?” Do you know anything about the man? Do you know about his family issues? The struggles he went through? Give it a rest. He “quit on the team” that sent him packing? He knew he was done. Shoppach’s fat too. Is he lazy?

by rglass44 on Dec 8, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm usually taking the bait, not laying it out there

Your fandom of Navarro is surprising.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a fan of the player.

I always had a soft spot for him. It mainly is due to his family side and hsi portly size. Always seemed to be a great guy until this year, and who can blame him for the frustration.

by rglass44 on Dec 8, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember when he cut his hand falling down the stairs to the dugout after the fight with Garza? Good riddance.

Hell yeah it is.
Any amount of points can be scored week to week. well, besides 1 point. Any number is as likely to be reached as another, since there’s only one of each number, each has the same chance to be hit. IT’s how the syetemof averages works.
by waltermercier on Sep 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

They asked him to stay, he chose not to. The team was upset.

A guy with no MLB PA became our 3rd catcher. THere were reports of disinterest in Durham too. I know Almerico sued Navi. Giving Navi 2 Mill last year was a far worse move than keeping Bartlett this year until the SS market heats up.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

No it wasn't.

No one thought Jaso was a big league catcher. He was a 3-win player 2 years ago with no reason not to believe he might bounce back. There was no tailor made replacement like there was with MVB and this isn’t an “all-in” year. You are being delusional.

by rglass44 on Dec 8, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn't me speaking in hindsight

Expecting Navi to bounce back to 08 is like expecting Bartlett to bounce back to 09.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Any catcher can get you half a win.

Navi was worth -.1 WAR despite his awfulness. Playing catcher you almost physically can’t do worse due to the positional adjustment. If you expect .5 WAR at catcher , you pay lg minimum for it.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Navi?

I was a Rays fan before my DRB days.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Weak sauce

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That's pretty dumb

Hell yeah it is.
Any amount of points can be scored week to week. well, besides 1 point. Any number is as likely to be reached as another, since there’s only one of each number, each has the same chance to be hit. IT’s how the syetemof averages works.
by waltermercier on Sep 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

I always wanted him to do well. Talked to him a few times, even gave him a couple of my photos I took of him from ASG he was in, and he was a very nice guy each time. Best of luck to him.

love it love it love it
i hate one person more than Pap smear—his name is bin laden
by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT

by SRQman on Dec 8, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Detach the person from the player. The story about his wife is pretty incredible. Sadly, not everyone can see that (or was around for it).

by rglass44 on Dec 8, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Also spoke to her a couple times

Very nice.

love it love it love it
i hate one person more than Pap smear—his name is bin laden
by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT

by SRQman on Dec 8, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought this was a sports blog

if we want to talk about his personal life lets find a Dr. Phil blog

by pitt1623 on Dec 8, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

www.raysindex.com

If I am commenting you need to hear it. Not really. www.theraysrepublic.com

by DeadeyeRR on Dec 8, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank God

Because your arguments are horrible

by pitt1623 on Dec 8, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

THANK GOD

"1 - 2 - Freddy's coming for you, 3 - 4 - Better lock your door, 5 - 6 - Grab your crucifix, 7 - 8 - Better stay up late, 9 - 10 - Never sleep again..."

by Gatorbuc15 on Dec 8, 2010 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

The irony:

FZ’s fav player is named after a pear and Navi is shaped like one….

Food for thought.

by rglass44 on Dec 8, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Bartletts not my favorite

Not even close. I just don’t despise him. For some reason the best org in baseball doesn’t seem to either. I like my backups more than yours.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

How often do you see me shitting a post up with Navi love?

I bid the player adieu and said I liked him more than most. I still hated to see him playing. You seem to get off on bringing up MVB whenever possible.

by rglass44 on Dec 8, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said, generally a responder

Just admired your hypocrisy on this one.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

What hypocrisy?

Liking different players for different reasons is hypocrisy? Jesus, you really are sf1’s alt.

by rglass44 on Dec 8, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

No harm, no foul.

And what exactly is Jason Bartlett’s harm/foul. All PT or trading opps are the teams control. No harm, no foul.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure when I've spewed venom like Navi gets toward MVB....

All I wanted was Reid. More Reid the better. I’ve never said Navi was good or was a better option than anyone this year. Much like I don’t attack MVB personally. I just don’t want him back.

by rglass44 on Dec 8, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

And getting weaker

Your arguments are about as solid as me saying your not a Rays fan b/c you live in another city now. Just dumb arguments.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 8, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

oh boy.
SPTimesRays Marc Topkin
Free agent #Rays OF Gabe Kapler, 35, hasn’t decided if he will play next season: "I’m kicking it around.

love it love it love it
i hate one person more than Pap smear—his name is bin laden
by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT

by SRQman on Dec 8, 2010 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

so what is this like the new WMD3 thread

with a sidebar slapfight between Glass and Freezo

by Dbullsfan on Dec 8, 2010 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

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