Report: Tampa Bay Rays & Carl Crawford "Not Making Significant Progress" On Extension

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 15, 2010 4:29 PM EST

From Jim Bowden. Take it for what it's worth:

In the meanwhile, this news comes a day after Crawford's Baseball Tonight special, which consisted of a half hour devoted to his training regimen and Karl Ravech all but introducing him as the Yankees' new left fielder. Good job by Crawford's agent on that one.

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I hate Ravech.

He just seems like an arrogant douche.

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by Sveet on Feb 15, 2010 4:36 PM EST reply actions

It was Buster Olney.

The show made me sick. It was like a paid info-mercial

by gjsor on Feb 15, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions

olney sucks

plain and simple and the ESPN “coverage” consists of talking about how the Yankees and the Red Sox have increased their payroll by 50 million to gain 2 wins…

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by raysfan81 on Feb 15, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions

Ignoring the yankee part of the equation

I’ll admit I haven’t check the going cost for a win in a few weeks, but just say it’s settled around $4mil and assuming that over the next 5 years CC is good for close to 18~20 WAR you’re still looking at 5/80 in this market climate. Even with a 10% home town discount you’re looking at ~14 million annually. That just doesn’t seem to fit.

Even if Jennings is a 3 WAR annually, playing that extra cash to CC doesn’t seem to be worth the difference and that’s being conservative on DJ. Even a 3 WAR platoon would cost significantly less. Unless CC takes a 30/40% discount, I don’t see how it works.

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by Tommy Rancel on Feb 15, 2010 4:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions

agreed

no way we can resign Carl.

The interesting thing is what do we do at the trade deadline. It’s an easy call if we are out of the race.
But what if we are a couple of games out? Do we trade him? I would hate to miss the playoffs and lose Crawford for just a draft pick.

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by Sveet on Feb 15, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions

The draft picks are probably a better return than the prospects on a short-term rental.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 15, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions

Well then why trade him at all?

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by Sveet on Feb 15, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions

I wouldn't expect him to be traded.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 15, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions

This

by SRQman on Feb 15, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions

I don't have a problem with this

but I would still have to think that we would be able to get something more valuable then the draft picks we will get for him if he signs elsewhere.

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by Sveet on Feb 15, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions

Washington was hardly "high end"

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Feb 15, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions

You still need to sign them.

http://www.draysbay.com/2010/2/15/1311290/top-50-draft-prospects-by-class

It’s a waste of an asset if you don’t

by SRQman on Feb 15, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions

Disagree.

by rglass44 on Feb 15, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions

If, for example, the giants are one or two games out at that time

It’s certainly possible we’re offered bumgarner, or perhaps even Posey (albeit unlikely) in which case we’d have to bite

by benderbrodriguez on Feb 15, 2010 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I would think both of those guys are out of reach if they had no plans to re-sign Carl

I would think something like Runzler & Noonan would be more realistic. If we have no playoff potential at the deadline, I’d do that deal in a heartbeat. Runzler is going to be a very, very good relief ace shortly and Noonan has a great approach at the plate.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 15, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions

Why wouldn't the giants try to re-sign him?

by benderbrodriguez on Feb 15, 2010 5:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

He fits the veteran player criteria, but do you see them outspending NYs, LAs, or Boston?

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 15, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions

I do

They like throwing money around illogically

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by Transplanted on Feb 15, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions

So does Omar

I could see him picturing an OF of Craw/Beltran/Bay and getting a bit moist.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 15, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions

I can't imagine Omar surviving the 2010 season

That team is horrible for 100M+ payroll.

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by Transplanted on Feb 15, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions

You don't expect bouncebacks from Reyes, Wright, and Beltran?

Their pitching is a mystery, but they have some good players and it’s the NL. I think it would be hilarious if the Nats win more games, but I don’t think that’s very likely.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 15, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions