More Thoughts on Joaquin Benoit
- Joaquin Benoit's career FIP is 4.5 through 590 innings. That's not too impressive for a reliever, but therein lays the caveat. 55 of Benoit's 273 appearances were starts. Benoit failed about as poorly as someone with his stuff could fail as a starter and his career starting FIP is near 5.37. For comparison's sake, Jae Weong Seo's 2007 FIP was 6.07. Benoit's FIP as a reliever is close to 3.8, which is equal to Octavio Dotel's career mark, although he too spent time in the rotation at the beginning of his career.
- Since becoming a permanent reliever, Benoit's contact rates were: 73.4%, 68.9%, and 72.9%. J.P. Howell's contact rates the last two years are 73.8% and 68.1%. Benoit has some tremendous swing and miss ability. His fastball tops out around 94 nowadays, and his time as a starter arms him with two secondary offerings: a slider and change.
- Again, his career splits are misleading. FanGraphs has his career FIP versus lefties at 4.53 and against righties at 4.35. Since becoming a reliever, Benoit has proven more effective versus lefties, which makes sense given his change-up, but still usable against righties. A lot of people are annoyed by the constant calls to the pen, but those concerns aren't as valid with Benoit. He can get batters of both hands out.
- The ideal bullpen, which is heavily contingent on Benoit being healthy, looks something like this:
LR Cormier
MR Benoit
MR Choate
MR Wheeler
SU Balfour
SU Howell
CP Soriano
- That looks solid on paper, but so did 2009's pen. Weird things are capable of happening in 40-50 inning stints. Heck, weird things are almost guaranteed to happen. The most you can ask for is a solid core and some depth, and the Rays seem to have both. When someone falters or goes down to injury, there's always someone like Winston Abreu, Dale Thayer, or Mike Ekstrom waiting. Even guys like Heath Phillips or Joe Bateman could be useful. Obviously those aren't sexy or well-known names, but then again, what reserve middle reliever is a sexy name?
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Two points regarding this thread
‘09 bullpen didn’t have a Soriano at the back end and let’s not forget about Jake Mc Gee when we talk about potential help if one of these go down
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but what about the walks?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 16, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
But what about the walks?
I don’t like any pitcher who walks hitters
SP or RP
Garza drives me nuts as does Balfour
I don’t know why, i can tolerate Kaz and Price
But a BB in the late innings of a close game is deadly—usually
by Raymondo on Jul 19, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Balfour in a one run game scares the hell out of me
Granted most relievers walk a tight rope in that situation, but i detest the BB, and probably prohibits me from liking Balfour
by Raymondo on May 14, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 16, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair, McGee was a starter.
Although, Balfour had more issues with injuries, which probably played into his control.
by R.J. Anderson on Feb 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Don't expect a response
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 16, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
The major acquisition this year (Soriano) is far more confidence inspiring than last year's (Nelson).
When your largest question mark is the 6th guy in the pen, then you’ve got to feel pretty good. This pen is in the best shape of it’s career.
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I can honestly say I never thought I'd be excited about a MRP (not just Benoit)
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IF Benoit is healthy
it will be a good pick up by the Rays. He has a plus-plus change that will make plenty of hitters look foolish. I hope he helps y’all out except, of course, vs the Rangers. :)
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