Open DRaysBay Fantasy Baseball Thread
by R.J. Anderson on Feb 16, 2010 11:44 AM EST
Email
PrintBumped by request.
141 comments
|
3 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I mean
He’s value, and I sure hope he repeats last season’s success, but I don’t think he hits as many homers this season. Even counting him, there’s Kinsler and Pedroia, but then who? Cano? Roberts? Phillips? All are good, but hardly super stars. Cano went in the third round in ESPN’s mock draft. Do you want to spend your third round pick on Robinson Cano just because you need a 2b?
I mean there are plenty of okay-pretty good fantasy 2B
But at the elite level, it’s basically Utley and then everyone else (unless Zobrist’s wOBA is .408 again this season, which it probably won’t be)
There are different ways
The leagues I’ve played in there are 10 categories, 5 batting and 5 pitching. Each week you face a different opponent in the league. Each day you set your lineup, then whatever your active players do counts for your team. At the end of the week whatever your team did in each of the categories gets added up. You win based on each category, so you can win 6, lose 3 and tie 1 for example each week. At the end of the season all of that gets added up (total wins, losses, and ties) and whoever has the top 4 records or whatever goes to the playoffs.
At least, that’s how it worked in the league I was in.
by staplemaniac on Feb 4, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Couple of different options. Some are season long (roto) some are more like fantasy football (head to head)
The league is structured as a 5 x5 league, meaning there are 5 stats collected and compared for offense and 5 for defense. For simplicity sake, lets assume you are in a 2 × 2 league where BA and HR are tallied on offense and K’s and ERA is tallied on defense.
You pick your team and start your players like most fantasy leagues. All players play in their respective games and their stats are counted and collected for each week (assuming you are in a head to head, weekly schedule league). Each category (BA, HR, K, ERA) is a separate win/loss component. So if your team hits 10 HR’s that week and your opponents hits 5 HR’s, you win that category. BA and ERA are accumulated for that week only, not cumulative. You can go 4-0, 3-1, 2-2, 1-3, or 0-4 with ties being available also. At the end of the week, lets say you go 3-1. The next week starts, and it starts all over again.
Its similar to fantasy football except instead of all stats being converted to points, most baseball leagues keep the stats separately. In FF, Td’s, yards and fumbles are aggregated, not so in FB.
Signature space available for rent - Got to pay the bills somehow
My league has 19 categories
We run deep
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 4, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Because we care what you think.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Feb 4, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Just for you Sterny
If there was a more accurate way to score I’d consider, but this doesn’t seem to measure the best team appropriately.
Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla
The best actual baseball team no
but you don’t try and put together the best actual team. You try and put together the best team for whatever that stats that you use to score with.
I think you are looking more for stat-o-matic baseball .
Where they run simulations based on players past performance
Bring Your Z-Game!
Even though I loathe BA and ERA and such,
it probably wouldn’t be as fun using more predictive stats like wOBA and FIP.
Also, I think there’s something to be said for the predictive vs. descriptive stats. ERA and BA are more descriptive, results-based stats, so that ultimately what you want for a fantasy team.
on Twitter @BradleyWoodrum and @CubsStats23
huh?
wOBA is a much more descriptive stat than BA. FIP is a more descriptive stat of the pitchers performance. ERA? You may as welld raft a whole MLB team, since that plus variation plus the pitcer will determine ERA. With the first pick in the DRB draft, I select the Yankees offense.
Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla
Maybe 'descriptive' was the wrong word.
What I’m saying is I like how ERA and BA are such poor predictors of true talent. In turn, my team’s success then comes from my ability to see through a high ERA or BA and know what’s really going on.
on Twitter @BradleyWoodrum and @CubsStats23
It benefits the wise
If you understand that just because your pitcher has a good ERA doesn’t mean he’s good, then you can trade him to some loser for a guy who’s got like a .100 BABIP with a decent LD percentage.
If someone is putting together a league, I'd be interested in partaking.
Signature space available for rent - Got to pay the bills somehow
THIS PLEAZ
I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY WITH SOMEONE OTHER THAN SCRAPS.
Official head of the Eric Berry bandwagon.
Buc'em- Your source for everything buccaneer.
by 4QB on Feb 4, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'm in if there's going to be a league, but I usually play on Yahoo, so...
"That's not baseball; little numbers in the paper, that's soduki or whatever you call it."
This sounds like a ton of work, daily lineup changes?
I want a 1 × 1 league w wOBA and FIP, rosters consist solely of Ray Minor Leaguers.
3SP 1 RP
1C, 2OF, 2IF
You can replace players at end of each month. At end of each month, aggregate wOBAs subtract the aggregate FIP and thats your score for the month. Roto style
Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla
I am officially starting the wOBA/FIP Ray Prospect League
No takers so far…..shocking
Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla
I'm worried about signing up for too many leagues.
I think I’m on track for 3 already; otherwise I’d totally join you, FreeZo.
on Twitter @BradleyWoodrum and @CubsStats23
Glass said he was.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
by PlayOnWords on Feb 4, 2010 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Once Glass sets up the league, my name is going to be Wu Tang Clan
Cuz we ain’t nothin to fuck with. As far as fantasy, couchmanager has these rankings for Rays:
Player/Rank/(Rank among position)
Longoria 11 (2)
Crawford 14 (3)
Zobrist 45 (7)
Bartlett 68 (6)
Upton 81 (26)
Pena 83 (18)
Shields 147 (34)
Garza 151 (35)
Price 185 (46)
Niemann 225 (60)
If anyone cares.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 4, 2010 1:34 PM EST reply actions
R.J. said he tried a WAR league on Fangraphs last year and it didn't go so hot
You set it up and I’ll play.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 4, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Sure
as in pretending to run teams the way they should be run. wOBA incorporates linear weights so all positive events are covered. Seems silly to weight doubles and home runs evenly.
Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla
You can customize the league to whatever you want
Use OBP/SLG instead of BA/HR. Use OPS. Use whatever you want.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 4, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
That works. If there's a league being run using rt stats, I'll consider
Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla
Real-time?
I’ve been running my league at ESPN, I’m putting you down as first alternate if someone doesn’t pick up their phone. It’s a $25,000 buy-in. I’ll just take your kids as collateral.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 4, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Rate (not real time).
FreeZo doesnt want aggregate stats I dont think.
Signature space available for rent - Got to pay the bills somehow
Awesome, I'll stock up on Cubs and win all of the Noon-3PM Real Time slot
Rate stats lead people to play dirty pool I’ve found. Example, using SB% or Save%, you can yank your guys after they go 1-0 and dominate those categories with 100%.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 4, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Meh, this clearly is not for me
I would prefer a passive style, monthly lineups, also would avoid the stats we hate around these parts like BA, RBI, Saves and Wins.
Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla
The league isn't active yet.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
by PlayOnWords on Feb 4, 2010 3:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Signups:
Reply with a +1 if you want to be in a 6*6 league with keepers, prospects, and weekly roster changes. The five categories will be as follows:
Bats- BA, RBI, SB, HR, OPS, R
Arms: ERA, WHIP, W, L, S, K
The amount of keepers and minor leaguers will be decided once we have a number of owners. As will money, draft time, and further tweaking. Don’t not join because you don’t want BA or something like that. Say you’re IN, and then change it from the inside. It WILL NOT be WAR, and it WILL NOT be wOBA/FIP solely. IMO it’s boring to do it that simplistic. I like to build a team where you are required to do a lot of different things. Don’t not join because you’re worried about the minor league aspect. I will put together a spreadsheet prior to that draft that will give everyone more than enough info for more than enough prospects.
I’d like to get at least 12 people, and I’d have no problem with 20. The more the merrier. If you have questions, email me (my email is in my profile) or start a new thread for each question. There are certain things I want to do and certain things I want to shy away from. I’m pretty flexible other than that. If people want to do something different, I’d be glad not to run one and possibley play in it. If I’m going to commish one (which I enjoy doing), I’d rather it be one that I am really enthralled in.
So who’s in?
+1 for my squad: Joel Cairo's Bloody Lisp
But daily rosters are better, dude.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
+1
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 4, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
+1!
I’m soooo excited! I’m going to win the A League this year, and then RJ will HAVE to make me King of Fantasy DRB.
on Twitter @BradleyWoodrum and @CubsStats23
+1
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 5, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I say we cap at 12 or 14. 20 seems way too big, IMO.
What website are you going to run this through?
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 5, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like a 20 team league, otherwise there's a glut in talent.
With 12 teams, the waiver wire is always too rich in potential.
on Twitter @BradleyWoodrum and @CubsStats23
Im fine with any size
That being said 12 seems like a more sane number than 20. we’d be picking up some really fringe players with 20 teams.
by Jun on Feb 6, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
+1
I’m late coming to this, but I’m in.
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige
by Steve Slowinski on Feb 9, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
ESPN hasn't even opened their Fantasy Baseball yet
Odd..
Me babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light
It's pissing me off
It’s hard enough to get some teams interested in this and the keeper deadline is like next week.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 5, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
0 chance I do a league with daily roster changes.
I refuse to load up on crappy SPs and rotate daily. I have better things to do.
Weak sauce.
Why don’t we meet in the parking lot and settle this DEACON STYLE. I’ll bring my rainbow flip flops.
Dude you gotta rock the grey new balances if your getting in a fight.
Or deck shoes. The Rainbows kill your fighting ability.
You whore. Maybe others want to rotate.
MAYBE TIM LINCECUM GETS HURT ON A MONDAY AND I HAVE A GAPING HOLE IN MY STAFF FOR A WHOLE WEEK.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
its more for position players.
if Pujols sprains something on monday, i want to fill that. sucks to have someone not playing a position for an entire week.
to avoid people loading up on SPs and rotating, just put a weekly IP cap. simple.
That's an idea.
How long is the season though? Missing a few games here and there isn’t that big of a deal. You just have to be more hesitant to start a player that’s banged up. I’ll consider that, but I think it could hamper roster construction.
Head to head, it's a pretty big deal, roto not so much, but if it's roto, count me out.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 16, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Using wins and losses can help deter people from doing this
You might be able to take K’s and wins, but ERA (or whatever) and losses will become inflated. I would recommend capping at something like 8 starts a week, anyway.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 5, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Last year, my league had a 200 starts limit.
Most teams, for fear of the limit, didn’t even come close to that number. Still, we could put it at 180 or (if you want super-authentic) 162. Either way, daily rosters is MUCH better. I usually set my rosters a week out, anyway, but being able to go back and adjust for an injury is huge.
on Twitter @BradleyWoodrum and @CubsStats23
Any news on the league starting up?
"That's not baseball; little numbers in the paper, that's soduki or whatever you call it."
WOOT!
Thanks RJ!
I think I’ll create the league this week, so we can get people signed up and start discussing rules and stuff.
Does everyone want Yahoo or would CBS be OK (as their options are way better)?
Yahoo Please
I would like Yahoo or Espn.
Official head of the Eric Berry bandwagon.
Buc'em- Your source for everything buccaneer.
I've never played CBS, but I hear great things. I prefer ESPN over Yahoo! only because of customization and free real-time stats
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 16, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Yahoo has free live stats this year
Woot!
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige
by Steve Slowinski on Feb 16, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yahoo, It is
Though they could update player rankings better.
Official head of the Eric Berry bandwagon.
Buc'em- Your source for everything buccaneer.
If this is going to be a massive league then CBS is probably better as I understand they do a lot more with minor leaguers
I haven’t been impressed with Yahoo!’s fantasy in a while, though nice to see them giving stats for free this year.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 16, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
This.
We’re in year 5 of our dynasty and they have pretty much every minor leaguer. We don’t use actual minor league rosters but I’m very happy with them.
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 16, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I'm also in a CBS dynasty and can back up PMCY here.
VERY deep minor league database. Much deeper than ESPN, who, at last check (few weeks back), didn’t even have anyone from the 2009 draft; not even Strasburg.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
If that's the case, I'd really like to go with CBS.
I’ve disliked Yahoo! the past few years I’ve used it. At least with respect to ESPN, it’s worse. But I don’t know anything about the changes they’re making this year.
on Twitter @BradleyWoodrum and @CubsStats23
CBS added Strasburg before he even signed (or maybe even drafted) last year.
They add new draftees fairly quick after the draft.
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 16, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I'm very happy with CBS. That's my choice.
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 16, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'm anti-ESPN because they link ur fantasy sports to ur insider.
I use a friend’s insider, so it makes it a pain.
I don’t see the benefit to ESPN over CBS and to a lesser extent Yahoo.
Yes.
But if we’re having 12+ teams that fee is very small when divided up with all owners. Plus, if we’re doing a dynasty league with minor leagues it’s nice to have a site that keeps our records from every year.
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 16, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
yes, but i'm in a 20-team keeper league
that uses ESPN and a free proboards message board site. its baller. I highly doubt paying for CBS would be better. But I don’t know for certain as I haven’t played CBS
Having co-comissioned several leagues in the past,
I confess it’s hard enough to chase down money with just friends in the league, much less gansta, SRQ-type strangers I met on the internet.
I think any free option is a preferred option, just so that one or two people don’t have to foot the bill. (Unless there’s a paywall structure, then all bets are off.)
on Twitter @BradleyWoodrum and @CubsStats23
I'm down for Yahoo meself.
"That's not baseball; little numbers in the paper, that's soduki or whatever you call it."
As a company guy....
I am obliged to point out the Fanball Commissioner service is only $69 – much cheaper than the CBS service
Carry on my wayward sons.
Thanks dad.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Feb 16, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
What did I miss in the TGN1 subthread that got the thing hidden?
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 16, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions
He requested it be hidden until he got things organized.
by R.J. Anderson on Feb 16, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
It's true. This time the douchebag dictator....IS ME
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Feb 16, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Check your email
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Feb 16, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
If you sent it to my work I'll can't check until tomorrow.
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 16, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
NM. In.
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 16, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Certain people just received an invitation to a special league. There are more slots open in this league (depending on how many people accept)
If you would like one of those remaining slots, post here, and we might have a contest to determine who gets them.
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Feb 16, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions
Special in the sense that it's an invitational, and it has strict comedy standards for participation.
If you wanna be in there will be a special comedy test voted on by the DRB shadow comedy cabal.
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Feb 16, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Alternately, if there aren't enough people to fill the vacant slots you're in by default
WHICH IS HILARIOUS IN AND OF ITSELF
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Feb 16, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm starting to think you might be the Joker, but in real life.
And the Joker is more often scary than funny.
on Twitter @BradleyWoodrum and @CubsStats23
Well, I was scarred in a horrible industrial accident, so there is that....
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Feb 16, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
i have several green posts.
don’t forget about me just because i hibernate in the winter.
i participate in video chats with random strangers.
All I know is that it's gonna be roto. Everything else will be consensus
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Feb 16, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Um...I just want to be in a league this spring. Special or not.
I am not a clever man.
"That's not baseball; little numbers in the paper, that's soduki or whatever you call it."
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Please read our Community Guidelines.
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
FanShots
Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.
Recent FanShots
DRB Suggestion Box
In Association With
Big League Stew - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
- Five tips for Showtime’s second season of ‘The Franchise,’ featuring the Miami Marlins
- The 10 best things about being a Detroit Tigers fan
- Surprise! A’s finally end the Yoenis Cespedes derby with $36 million deal for Cuban star
- The time Whitney Houston sang to Jim Bowden
- Pitchers and catchers! Mariners get early start in Arizona
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
