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Floating Realignment

Major League Baseball isn't an organization that is known for its willingness to change.

That's what makes this story by Sport Illustrated's Tom Verducci so surprising. Apparently , Bud Selig named a "special committee for on-field matters" that is made up of 14 people - current managers and executives was all the information we are given - whose job it is to brainstorm and come up with new ideas to help improve the game as a whole. Their first idea is sure to stir more than a few feathers around baseball:


Realignment is something that most Rays fans have been talking about for years, though assuredly not to this degree. This idea is nearly one hundred percent centered around the dominance of the Red Sox and Yankees, as there's no National League equivalent. Here is one example of how this "floating" realignment would work:


That all sounds fine in theory, but there's obvious problems that would need to be fixed with such a system. Some of them being:

-What if two teams from the same division want to move and there is only one available space?

-The piece indicates that no team could join a division more than two timezones outside of its own. That would seem to greatly benefit teams in the Central divisions, seeing as how they could move to the East or West while a team like the Rays gets handcuffed by being on the East Coast.

-If I'm a team like the Yankees or Red Sox from a few years ago and I see that the Devil Rays or Orioles want to leave the division, I wouldn't be too happy about those easy wins walking out the door.

Of course this is all speculation, an idea that is fun to talk about while the first week of Spring Training unfolds. Personally, I think there would be too many obstacles facing an idea of this magnitude. But what about you?  I'm interested to hear everyone's opinions.

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Teams will have conflicting interests.

I can appreciate the noble idea of allowing smaller market teams, such as the Rays, an increased chance of obtaining post-season action by moving to a different division, but is this what fans really want? Personally, I relish watching the Rays battle against the Red Sox and Yankees in the same division (toughest) every year.

2008 was that more special because the Rays overcame the best, they displaced the perennial favourites. As a fan, I want to see my team compete against the best as often as possible. Would I sacrifice that and move to the Central Division to play against ‘weaker’ teams in the increased chance of a post-season berth, no. This opinion is solely based on how I, as a Rays fan, would ascertain such a venture. Thus accordingly, I could understand why other teams would like to play more often against the likes of the Yankees, but would the Rays front office agree to lose out on all those sold-out games when the big revenue boys come to town, I don’t think so.

All of the teams wouldn’t be able to come to an agreement each year so the only way I could see this happening would be if there was a random cycle of teams. I believe that the Wildcard gives adequate coverage for post-season inclusion in ‘stronger’ divisions.

by ega05me on Mar 10, 2010 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

We could realign East and Central to North and South

AL North
Yankees
Red Sox
Tigers
Twins
White Sox

AL South
Indians
Orioles
Rangers
Royals
Rays

NL North
Mets
Brewers
Cubs
Reds
Pirates

NL South
Phillies
Cardinals
Braves
Natinals
Astros
Marlins

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

The Indians and Royals aren't really 'south'.

I took a look at trying to realign the teams around the NFL directional division style last year actually. The West gets screwed because there aren’t enough teams. Just for fun, let’s look at a map:

IMO, you could only have 1 ‘south’ division for both leagues; the Rays, Florida, and Atlanta would be 3 teams, and depending on how the other leagues set up, you could have Texas and Houston or Cinci and Baltimore as the other two. If MLB is going to ever wrap their head around realignment though, they have to get away from the concept of naming the divisons after regions and having both in each league. They should name the divisions after HOFers instead.

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by kericr on Mar 10, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally I'd love to see the AL and NL abolished

Though I don’t think Montreal has a team anymore.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

You know where Toronto is, right?

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Look again

How many dots are north of the Great Lakes/St. Lawrence?

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

One?

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

You have to trace the line of the St. Lawrence.

It’s an old map. There’s a dot on Montreal.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

My bad, I'm retarded

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Check the date

2000

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by SRQman on Mar 10, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't even notice it. Oh well, just lump an extra dot right next to Baltimore.

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by kericr on Mar 10, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I would cry if they abolished the AL/NL.

I think they should get rid of IL play entirely though too.

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if I'd go as far out as 10 years; IL play is still pretty fun to watch for me.

I understand the idea behind getting rid of it though. Maybe if they did something like once every 4 or 5 years, and make IL a very large part of the schedule (something like 60 games instead of the current 20), they could build a year-long celebration around it.

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by kericr on Mar 10, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it quite a bit

It’s always fun to watch pitchers hit, and without it we wouldn’t have Felix Hernandez slamming Johan Santana.

by benderbrodriguez on Mar 10, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think getting rid of AL/NL

is the way to go. Realignment would be much easier and make so much more sense. In-state or neighboring state rivals would build so much stronger. For example, if the Rays would see the Marlins several times through out the season would that not build a rvialry? Maybe it would help professional baseball in Fla? Who knows?

by Suckerpunch on Mar 10, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

A good example is the Orlando Predators and the Tampa Bay Storm in the Arena Football League

They both arrived in 1991, and the War on I-4 is a large part of why the Arena League is so popular in this neck of the woods.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Umm didn't Arena go defunct or was that your point?

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

A new AFL is in its place

And it didn’t go defunct because of the Predators and Storm, that’s for sure. Both teams were guaranteed near-sellouts, and definite sellouts for War games.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I had season tix a few years ago and enjoyed the drunkfest

Cheap and had a ton of fun.

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

This seems to be the only sensible post-AL/NL alignment

The geographical arrangement makes things tricky.

Northeast: Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Phillies, Blue Jays
Mideast: Orioles, Natinals, Pirates, Indians, Tigers
Midwest: Reds, Cubs, White Sox, Brewers, Cardinals
South: Rays, Marlins, Braves, Astros, Rangers
West: Twins, Royals, Rockies, Diamondbacks, Mariners
California: A’s, Giants, Dodgers, Angels, Padres

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I had something like this originally

But I think the West setup kills the Twins and Royals. That is why i ended up going with the four divisions.

by Suckerpunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

4 divisions would require either expansion or contraction

And if you expand, you might as well do 8 over 4.

Personally I would prefer not contracting. At least the Rays would be safe this time. The A’s are far more tempting, and I can think of a few who would be far more likely than the Rays.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

And I don't think my setup kills the Twins and Royals

In fact, I think it benefits them. I find them a bit stronger than the others in my West concept.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking fan base wise

Why would four divisions require expansion or contraction?

by Suckerpunch on Mar 10, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Well,

there already is a rivally between the Rays and the Marlins, albiet its a bit smaller than others.

by TBRaysfan009 on Mar 10, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Not much of one really

It could be much more I would think if they played more often.

by Suckerpunch on Mar 10, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The only people who take it seriously are Dewayne Staats and Rich Waltz

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 11, 2010 6:34 AM EST up reply actions  

That realignment idea seems like it's full of holes

There are too many scenarios to account for and allowing any team to walk to any division at any time, just seems weird.

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by Buc Wild on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 AM EST reply actions  

True

I would hope that if that idea comes to fruition that the MLB puts some guidelines or restrictions in there.

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by Buc Wild on Mar 10, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Too complicated and unwieldy.

Just make revenue sharing more onerous for the teams with big payrolls, and make teams give up more draft picks for each high-priced free agent signing.

by Zach Attack on Mar 10, 2010 8:17 AM EST reply actions  

So teams that are rebuilding opt to play in the ALE for attendance issues

thus allowing the Yanks and Sox to walk into the playoffs every year?

Sound about right.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

with Realignment

I feel that MLB doesn’t care about the smaller market teams winning. I think that the MLB would rather year in and year out having the New Yorks and LAs in world play for the World Series. Why realign? When on the off chance that a Twins, Marlins, Rays, or Brewers team gets close to the World Series the media can play the “small-town Hollywood underdog card.”

This whole “floating” alignment is great fodder like implementing a bright yellow ball in night-games. So realignment will be talked about instead of talking about a balanced schedule or a different playoff system.

Finally, I don’t want realignment, at least not a floating realignment. The Rays will always be in the southeast. If the Rays are to be placed in a different league, it should be in the NL east. So, unless we are talking NL east change, let’s not talk at all. Plus, there is something really sweet about punching the rich kid in the mouth and winning the big bad AL East.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 10, 2010 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

Scrap realignment, balance the schedule and get rid of divisions. The 4 best teams in the AL and the NL reach the playoffs…simple.

by OneTonneBaby on Mar 10, 2010 8:45 AM EST reply actions  

Yep.

Two leagues, everyone plays each other the same number of times, top four records in each league get in.

Why complicate something so obvious?

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by PlayOnWords on Mar 10, 2010 8:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd say this really takes out some of the excitement.

I’m a fan of the divisions but would like to see some sort of rule where you must have “x” number of wins or “x” winning percentage to make the playoffs or that spot goes to the team with the best record still left out.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

What about going back to 2 divisions?

Where the 2 winners get in and then 2 wildcards. So you could have the 3rd best record in the division and still get in the playoffs

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Which would be a rule that makes divisions worthless.

Which they are.

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by PlayOnWords on Mar 10, 2010 9:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This would be tough on west coast teams and their fans

A lot more of their games would be stating or 4 or 5 pm on weekdays

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by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Play the east coast teams on the weekend.

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by PlayOnWords on Mar 10, 2010 9:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The best idea, but why would MLB want competitive balance?

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

There are way too many flaws with this plan

What kind of message would this send to the fans if their team chose to play in the ALE? I think it would hurt attendance because management is basically giving up on the season before it starts.

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

Go back to AL and NL

as balanced schedule as possible and top four teams make the playoffs in each league

by sternfan1 on Mar 10, 2010 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

In terms of "fairness", sure

The Rays would lose a lot of gate revenue due to lost NYY and BOS games though.

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by FreeZorilla on Mar 10, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Made up for by winning.

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by PlayOnWords on Mar 10, 2010 9:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

30 teams 6 divisions = 5 teams/div

move kc to the al west and pitt to the al cent.

by bluechairgreengrass on Mar 10, 2010 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

There has to be an even number of teams in each league.

Or there will have to be more IL play (which would suck).

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

why

the nhl is able to have 6 (5 team div)

by bluechairgreengrass on Mar 10, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

They don't have hard leagues.

The East plays the West all the time (like the NBA and NFL).

In MLB, the AL and NL only play each other rarely. If you have an odd number in each league then there would always have to be an NL and AL team playing or they’d have to be on a “bye.”

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

so lets do that

why have interleague play just during the summer. why not spread out the schedule among the two divisions.

by bluechairgreengrass on Mar 10, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I just think your trying to fix something that no one has a problem with

The problem is that the AL East has two of the highest payroll clubs in MLB and I’m sure the O’s, Rays, and Jays aren’t happy that they have to compete year in and year out with them.

That’s the problem they are trying to fix.

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I see what you're saying but...

(and I know it’s not all about spending) now that the O’s are well run they can and will spend with the Yanks and Sox.

One more year Brett. One more year.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I was just trying to look at it from MLBs perspective.

I can’t think of any reason they would be exploring this other than the state of the AL East.

And to play conspiracy theorist here. Maybe this isn’t so much about making it fair for the other 3 ALE teams, but making sure the huge revenue streams that are the Yankees and Red Sox don’t get left out of the playoffs. Mabye they are more worried about a 90 win Red Sox team getting left out the playoffs and a 84 win Twins team getting in then a 90 win Rays team getting left out and the Twins getting in.

As someone said above. This floating realignment would almost pave they way for the Yanks and Sox to make the playoffs every year by giving the rebuilding teams a reason to play in their division. While getting potential teams that could knock them out like the Rays, future O’s out of the division

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

They also don't play every night

So even if they did have “hard” leagues they could make it work

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Meh

I can’t see any radical changes happening.

I’m much more interested in smaller things that could make the game better.

Ways to speed the game up:
-limited throwovers (you get 1 or 2 and then every time you throw over it’s a ball)
-actually enforcing the pitchclock
-no stepping out of the box

Ways to “fix” umpiring:
-use pitchFX to grade umps
-hold umps accountable
-get rid of stupid rules limiting WS games umped (allows the best to do it)
-incentivize being a good ump (financially and possibley rewards)
-get rid of bad ones
-limited use of replay

Replay and pitchFX are a HUGE bargaining tool for MLB w/ the umpire’s union. They need to use them to hold these guys accountable. There’s no reason for them to still be doing games if they can’t get the calls right. Pay ’em a bit more for less years and hook it on the retirement plan.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

These are the two big ones for me

-actually enforcing the pitchclock
-no stepping out of the box

obviously there would have to be some exceptions where you are able to step out….foul balls, high and tight pitches, passed balls, stuff that makes sense. But not in between every pitch

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

If you get something in your eye or something you can step out, but the ump has to be judicious awarding them.

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Only one step-out per at-bat, only two pitcher-catcher conferences per half-inning

Not fair to completely abolish it.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Bill James favored the idea of limited throwovers, too.

But I don’t see how it could work. If you limit it to two throwovers, and either make the next one a ball or forbid the next one completely, you’re almost guaranteed to watch that runner get a huge jump and steal second base. The point behind throwing over is to make things uncertain for the runner so his lead and jump are small. If you place any limits on that uncertainty, you’ll defeat the entire purpose of the move. If a runner knows you’re not going to throw over, he will steal that base.

by Zach Attack on Mar 10, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

So pitch out.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

No it just adds more game theory to it and inhibits the weak throwovers.

Is there really anything wrong with encouraging stolen bases any ways? It’s the most exciting play in the sport, and it will make athleticism even more valued. I assume we wouldn’t see that big of an increase in SBs anyway.

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think you need to do this

While repeated pitchouts are annoying. I don’t think they extend games by more than a few minutes.

If they just did the other two things. Games would be much shorter

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

3 mins here, 3 mins...

The big thing is picking up the pace of the game. There used to be a necessity to keep games shorter and move quickly (the sun). Now that that isn’t the case the game is losing viewers because of the pace. Pick up the pace GD it.

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I do think the game needs to be speeded up.

But I don’t know how much more you can do. I’d favor:

- stopping batters from always stepping out of the box
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limit of two or three visits to the mound by catchers and pitching coaches (aka the Jorge Posada rule)
- Half as many warmup pitches for each new pitcher
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Limit of one pitching change and one pinch hitter change per inning
— Absolutely no managers coming out to argue umpires’ calls

Even with all that you’re looking at a game that would be about ten or fifteen minutes shorter. The game will still be slow-paced and analytical compared to other team sports, which is the reason why baseball is losing its market share.

by Zach Attack on Mar 10, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with it per se, but it would be a huge shift towards more offensive production.

sort of like the shift from the Deadball era to the Live Ball era, or when they lowered the pitching mound after the 1960’s. I guess there’s nothing inherently wrong with it, but I just don’t see a need for such a big change given that throwovers don’t take up a ton of time.

by Zach Attack on Mar 10, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I really don't think you'd see a big increase in SBs.

Maybe team’s will put more emphasis on catcher defense and scrap some offense there.

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

No commercials during the periods of Olympic hockey really made it better to watch

But commercial breaks aren’t really that big a deal in MLB because the warm-up periods are perfect for getting in a few commercials.

Maybe enforce the warm-up rules and force TV and radio to limit commercial interruptions.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't stand Selig!!

I’d rather see a salary cap to make things more competitive.

There are so many flaws with that plan, I don’t know where to begin. Most have been mentioned above.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

no salary cap

I think it would ruin the game

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't ruin the NFL

Though in the case of the NBA, it’s so high that it’s grossly inflated player salaries.

I don’t mind a salary cap, as long as there’s also revenue sharing and a salary floor to force smaller-market teams to invest in players.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course it sucks for you. You're a Bucs fan.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I side with glass on this, every year I care less and less about the NFL.

It seems, so far, that the NHL has actually done a pretty good job implementing their cap. I wouldn’t be for a cap in baseball, but if they do go that route, I would prefer emulating Bettman’s baby over Tagliabue’s mess.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

every year I care less and less about the NFL.

This is exactly how I feel

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Same

Although I was never as big into football as baseball, so my opinion probably doesn’t say much.

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by Steve Slowinski on Mar 10, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too

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by Buc Wild on Mar 10, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Why?

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Because it's a boring, commercial fest that celebrates mediocirty.

The game is more about the officials and legalese to determine the “right” call rather than the one in the spirit of the game. The No Fun League chews up players and spits them out. There’s no continuity. Mediocrity is rewarded. Etc. Etc. I could go on for days.

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Salary caps just take money from the players and give it to the owners.

It also will make it even harder for small market teams as the Yanks and Sox will just pour all their resources into the draft or abroad. Unless of course we go to an international draft with hard slotting which the owners would love because the players would be paupers.

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

The NFL players are hardly paupers

I think the bottom end players should get more and the top end players should get less. I don’t care if the owners make more. THEY ARE OWNERS they should make more. They are the entrepreneurs that put their money on the line. The players are the employees.I like what was the NFL system. It is a much more level playing field for each team. At the start of any year you never know who will be in the playoffs. Ya can’t really say that about baseball. I want to see the Kansas City Royals have a shot at the World Series again. But that won’t happen.

Moving teams in the divisions makes me sick to my stomach. Boy can’t wait to see that Red Sox vs. Indians rivalry :P

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

If you limit the Yankees' pro spending, that doesn't end their advantages financially.

They’ll just reinvest that money in avenues of player development, scouting, technology, and front office staffing. They’re still going to make and spend more money than us and putting a salary cap on things just helps them in the long-run. I’d rather them spend $50M in free agency than $50M in things that make them more efficient.

by R.J. Anderson on Mar 10, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

You really think that they aren't already capable of spending freely in making themselves more efficient?

I don’t think it has nearly the impact as stealing other teams talent. The Rays are a model of efficiency for teams around the league and are being emulated by other small market teams. That may get us within a few wins this year of the Yanks and Boston, but what about next year and the year after that? The unbalance right now is unfair. If it weren’t we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Move those teams to other divisions or not, they will still be the gorillas of baseball.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I've never understood why we consider signing free agents as "stealing other teams' talents" to be honest.

If they want to give the players market value (and sometimes above) by spending the revenue they earned, then is that really evil? Obviously they’re lucky to have more resources than us, but I don’t see it as an inherent black/white or good/bad situation.

by R.J. Anderson on Mar 10, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Because a smaller market team can't compete head to head on the salary

We are going to feel it soon with Crawford. Hopefully we don’t with Longo some day.

It isn’t evil. I just don’t think it is good for the game. Thank god Ripken stayed in Baltimore, it would have crushed the town if he left to be a Yankee.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't you find that the more exciting part? (your subject)

To go toe-to-toe with these teams on 1/3 of the payroll and always trying to squeeze a marginal win out is the most exciting part about this front office.

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes it is very gratifying, but.....

I still don’t think it is good for the game to have to always fight from an underdog spot year after year. It is extremely sweet to win when you are the underdog, but a bitch when you don’t. I am concerned that if things don’t change this year may be the last for a while that we have a legit shot at the WS. It is like the Twins. Every six years or so they come up with a winning team for a year or two, but then become a middle of the roader for another six years.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I think things can be done without having a salary cap

They could increase the luxury tax

What I’m in favor of doing is that if you are in the top 5 or top 10 in payroll the previous year you don’t get any compensation picks when you lose a free agent. This is an easy change that I think would really help

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably won't mind since we won 5 WS while he was here.

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Please put down the pipe.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You're either with us or you're with the terrorists

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it won't be so bad for us

When the team moves to Tampa and we have proper support. They can spend more on players.

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(This was meant as a joke, and should be taken as such)

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I take it as a ripping good snort

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

ok a mediocre joke, but I figured I should state that it was a joke

So I don’t get accused of trolling for a reaction. I know the topic is over-used and can get people upset.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It'll stink

But I think people get too attached to the idea of players sticking on the same team forever. Sure, it’d be nice, but it so very rarely happens anymore these days. When Longo leaves, we’ll have had him for something like 8 seasons. That’s not too bad.

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by Steve Slowinski on Mar 10, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a big difference in how those players left town

The Bucs didn’t want them anymore. Given a choice, the Rays would like to keep Crawford, but can’t. The Bucs wanted to keep Barber, Alstott and Brooks (until recently) and they did. There was no Yankees type franchise offering to pay some ridiculous amount for either of them.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The Rays could pay him what he'll get.

It just doesn’t make sense. Much like in the NFL, only there’s less turnover.

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but to a greater extreme is how I would put it.

I am not suggesting that players shouldn’t get paid, or be able to change teams, just that something is wrong when the Yankees can go out, like they did last year and buy a WS ring before the season started. They threw silly money out there and pretty much ruined the chance of having a competitive season for the rest of the league. Yeah, it would have been cool as shit to beat the goliath with intelligence after they spent all that money, but that is tough to compete against year after year, especially when they need asses in the seats and we are 10 or more games back. Most fans want to see a winner, and don’t care about how we paid less and got a better value for a player because of his WAR potential. BTW I find all of the front office dealings and value for players etc. very intriguing, which is one of the reasons I really like this site. I just get concerned about the majority of the fans out there falling off the bandwagon when we have to contract our spending. Look at the revolt when Kasmir left. Damn good thing we had Price to step in or some may have burnt down the Trop. Sorry, I am just rambling now.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

In the NFL you can give a guy a huge contract to keep him around.

Then cut him if it doesn’t work out. Your hands are tied in the MLB as it should be. Players have to honor the contracts so teams should to.

We must have watched different baseball seasons if last year wasn’t competetive. The Yanks payroll was LOWER last year than the year before when they missed the playoffs. What does that say about spending and winning? The Mets spend a ton and don’t do squat. Same with the M’s under the old regime. Are the Yanks in another stratosphere? Probably, but the same could be said in other leagues as well.

There have been 62 NBA finals winners. The Celtics have won 17 and the Lakers have won 15. That’s 27% and 24% respectively. So over 50% of the championships have been one by 2 teams. The Yanks have won 25% of the World Series titles, but the next closest team has only comprised less than 10%.

Either way what the Yanks do is good for the sport. They drive revenue and viewership both here and abroad. If a few pansies in Tampa don’t like then they don’t have to watch. Just like they didn’t watch the Bucs or Lightening till they got good. Revenue sharing will continue to help the Rays, and the Yanks will be strapped with bad contracts again at some point. That’s when smart teams pounce. Are we better on paper than the Yanks or SOx? Maybe not, but the game isn’t played on paper.

The great thing about baseball isn’t winning World Series; it’s following a group of young men to their damndest trying to over the course of a summer. That’s what’s great about baseball. Every night you’ve got a bunch of guys coming together trying to do something special. Sometimes they do. More often than not they don’t. There’s poetry in it. There’s beauty. The end is not the trophy. That’s what’s lost as we strive to sterilize the game. The beauty and the stories.

by rglass44 on Mar 11, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Nicely put.

I was just spouting off yesterday. Had a bad week, and hate the Yanks and Sox. But hey, the ACC Tournament starts today so all is good, unless Md goes out early. In which case, I will be bummed again.

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by terp12 on Mar 11, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

If Mauer goes to the Yanks I will be crushed

and I’m not even a Twins fan. There is something inherently wrong about this happening.

Hometown kid and all

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

That is all I am saying. It is disgusting.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Lions-Browns Super Bowl this year, can't wait

The argument that the NFL has more parity than MLB is a stupid one. Their playoff system, schedule, and overall structure makes the two leagues difficult to compare on a 1 to 1 basis. You can’t say that well more teams have made the playoffs so there’s more parity.

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

The cap doesn't make up for stupidity

True their structure makes it easier for a team to reach the playoffs, however, you still have teams going from good to bad and bad to good every year. Take the playoffs out of the equation.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Really??

There are risks and they are having to put up a hell of a lot of money.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that really true?

Has someone ever bought a team and sold it for less than they paid?

One more year Brett. One more year.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope OK Sports takes a bath on the Lightning and sells it to someone that isn't a dumbshit

Oren Koules, you are human garbage. Please throw yourself away.

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

They did and he doesn't sound like a dumbshit

but I guess time will tell

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought they were already sold.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

No one who plays for the top 4 major sports leagues (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL) is a pauper

At least, they shouldn’t be. The NBA especially.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

The easiest solution is to move one of the Yanks or Red Sox to the central and move a central team in to the East

but this will never happen

No way they split these teams up.
It just seems fundamentally wrong to do this

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

I'm just looking for feedback, but

what about something where if you play in the ALE then you get a break on what you would have to pay as far as revenue sharing. Say only 70% of RS dollars have to be paid. For instance, if you’re the Yankees and you owe 100M in RS, you now only owe 70M. This would entice teams like Boston, Philly, Cubs, and other high payroll teams to play in that division, which should get the best teams facing each other. Tier 2 would be like a 15% break on RS dollars owed and Tier 3 would be no kickback and Tier 4 could give teams a 15% bump in RS dollars received. Teams that aren’t in danger of exceeding the cap would want to play in Tiers 3 & 4.

Each winner of a tier and 2 wild cards would get into the playoffs. The fans would get to see some exciting baseball in Tier 1 and lots of young talent in the lower tiers. The fans can also hold their team accountable if they just sit in Tier 4 the whole time as they are obviously just going after the RS dollars. Tiers 1 & 4 could have 8 teams apiece, while 2 & 3 would have 7. I know this isn’t a well-thought idea as I just conceived it, with a million flaws, but would the crux of the idea be something that you guys would like to see?

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Errr, sorry...

Was thinking of it as a luxury tax.

One more year Brett. One more year.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

I never got an invite.

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

fuck

Well if someone doesn’t drop out I’ll bump it to 24 I guess. We probs have enough peeps.

You’ll be playing. No idea how I missed you.

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

BIG GULPS, EH

WELL, SEE YA LATER.

One more year Brett. One more year.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks, if you can't find enough or are worried about everyone having 3 guys that anyone has heard of then

I could always co-manage a team if someone would have me.

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

How can you monsters talk about realignment when half of the Coreys are now dead?!?!?!

?!!!

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by PlayOnWords on Mar 10, 2010 10:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

if i had to guess I would say not feldman

The other one looked sickly

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The one that wasn't in Goonies, I think.

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by PlayOnWords on Mar 10, 2010 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Feldman was in the goonies

It was Haim. I just looked it up

It looks like a mirac

by Sveet on Mar 10, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Haim apparently OD'ed.

Interestingly enough, he and Feldman fell out last year because of his drug abuse.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

The internet is going to win this round.

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Easiest solution....and most fair:

Balance the schedule, and the 4 best records from each league make the playoffs.

by td32 on Mar 10, 2010 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

Scrap the divisions, have 2 leagues

However do an unbalanced schedule.
Competitive Balance solution:

Devise a formula where that weights games based upon the previous years finish (top 2 in the league will play more than 1v10), top payroll teams play more, teams with a closer geographical proximity will play more, and perhaps throw in a ‘rivalry’ component so you add games in that manner as well.

This will finally create competitive balance. It’ll give poor performing lower payroll teams a better chance to have a cinderella type year while also creating a more balanced “apples to apples” comparison than what we currently have.

Best teams solution:

Balanced schedule, top 2 in each league make the playoffs. Or perhaps top 3 make the playoffs. Top team gets a ‘bye’, #2 and #3 play a three game set to move on.

Go Gators!!

by matthan on Mar 10, 2010 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

I was really intrigued to hear that they were considering this idea

It seems fairly ridiculous and complicated to actually implement, but at least it means they’re willing to talk about making some changes. And here’s the breakdown of the people involved (according to the USA Today at least):

“The gathering was inspired by baseball Commissioner Bud Selig’s committee to improve the game, a group consisting of four managers, eight current and former executives, one Hall of Fame player and a writer.”

I think simpler is better and doing away with the divisions sounds like the best overall plan to me. Balancing the schedule would go a long ways to help too, though.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 10, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, that's part of my trepidation about this whole thing

I feel like MLB would be best served to put together the best possible group to discuss this sort of stuff. And I kinda doubt that they did. I can’t really think of 4 managers that I’d trust in that discussion.

Also, Steve Phillips is a former executive. I doubt he was on there, but if they’re not giving names, it leaves a wide range of people they could have chosen.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 10, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I find two things funny...

1) He puts together a committee to do his job for him. He’s probably the least forward thinking commish there is. I can’t wait for him to be gone. The credit he gets for increased revenue would have came no matter what. His reign is smack in the middle of the technology boom.

2) He didn’t consider putting any current/former players on said committee. One would think that they have a good prospective on competitive balance.

One more year Brett. One more year.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true

The problem is, Selig will have to okay whatever ideas are thrown out there by said committee before than can be implemented. So we’re still going to have him sitting around with friends and battering ideas about.

How much longer is he around for? I haven’t really followed such things.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 10, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a set tenure for him, or is it more like a Supreme Court Justice, and we are stuck with him.

Every time I see him, I just want to punch him in his jowly face.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

HEY MAN THIS TIME IT COUNTS

sort of

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He said he wants to retire after 2012, IIRC.

But from what I’ve read the owners will do everything they can to prevent it from happening.

One more year Brett. One more year.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Why wouldn't they? He is a lump of dough.

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by terp12 on Mar 10, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That makes them lots of dough

"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 10, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Bingo.

I think a major part of the problem (IMO) is that there are a lot of owners in baseball that are more interested in making money than putting out a competitive team. Plenty of owners are a lot more wealthy than the Steinbrenners, they just pocket the cash.

MLB owners seem to be very much in the “Good Ol’ Boys” mold. I would love to see how Mark Cuban would do as owners of the Piriates.

One more year Brett. One more year.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Those guys don't make all that money by pissing it away.

I never understand why people act like Steinbrenner built the team up the way he did because he just wanted to win more. How much more are the Yanks worth now than when he bought them?

by rglass44 on Mar 10, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Here ya go

LINK

The committee is comprised of the following:

Field Managers – Tony La Russa, St. Louis Cardinals; Jim Leyland, Detroit Tigers; Mike Scioscia, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim; and Joe Torre, Los Angeles Dodgers.

General Managers – Andy MacPhail, formerly General Manager of the Minnesota Twins and Chicago Cubs and currently President, Baseball Operations, Baltimore Orioles; Terry Ryan, formerly General Manager of the Minnesota Twins and currently Twins’ Senior Advisor to the General Manager; John Schuerholz, formerly General Manager of the Kansas City Royals and Atlanta Braves and currently Braves’ President; and Mark Shapiro, Executive Vice President and General Manager, Cleveland Indians.

Club Owners and Presidents – Chuck Armstrong, President and Chief Operating Officer, Seattle Mariners; Paul Beeston, President, Toronto Blue Jays; Bill DeWitt, Chairman of the Board and General Partner, St. Louis Cardinals; and Dave Montgomery, General Partner, President and Chief Executive Officer, Philadelphia Phillies.

Selig also named Hall of Famer Frank Robinson and columnist and broadcaster George Will to the Committee.

One more year Brett. One more year.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Would this work?

Each column is a division. I just threw it together. I had the most difficulty placing the Rays, Braves, Marlins, Rangers and Astros. However, I think it makes sense to nix the AL/NL so teams closer to eachother would play more. Of course, there are probably folks that have put more thought into than me. I did it in five minutes and it probably shows.

Cleveland Minnesota Angels Boston
Detroit Milwaukee A’s NYY
Pittsburgh CWS Mariners NYM
Cincy CC Az Phil
Marlins KC Rockies Baltimore
Rays St. Louis Dodgers Washington
Braves Rangers Giants Toronto
Astros Padres

by Suckerpunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

Let me try this

Cleveland
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Cincy
Marlins
Rays
Braves

Minnesota
Milwaukee
CWS
CC
KC
St. Louis
Rangers
Astros

Angels
A’s
Mariners
Az
Rockies
Dodgers
Giants
Padres

Boston
NYY
NYM
Phil
Baltimore
Washington
Toronto

by Suckerpunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a good regional setup.

The only problem I see there is the “NorthEast” division *Boston, Yanks, Mets, Phils, etc" actually have an advantage of all those teams being extremely close to each other. Intradivision games that are so close that teams could literally take buses from one city to the next.

Also, in that division, Toronto is at a catastrophic financial disadvantage.

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by kericr on Mar 10, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

You could shift the Braves and Toronto.

Cleveland
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Cincy
Marlins
Rays
Toronto

Boston
NYY
NYM
Phil
Baltimore
Washington
Braves

by Suckerpunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't kill the goose!

We could lose the team with the revenue loss of not playing Boston or NY. You think the Indians or Rangers would sell out?

I like playing the best and think many of the players do also.

by red_chief on Mar 10, 2010 12:41 PM EST reply actions  

I see what you're saying but playing Boston & NY is not the end-all-be-all for attendance.

If we’re on place to win 90+ games our attendance will be just fine.

One more year Brett. One more year.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 10, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

Every other small market team not in the AL East is making it without playing Boston and the Yanks as often.

by Suckerpunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

I just thought of a possible double-alignment

Two systems of putting games together, but I need time to fully flesh it out. The main traditional AL/NL alignment, and a geographical alignment to satisfy interleague curiosities. Records and playoffs would still be determined by the traditional AL/NL alignment, but teams would also be divided into geographical pods regardless of traditional leagues to play each other. This idea is inspired by the play format of the provisional US Soccer Division 2 League.

With constant AL/NL interleague games possible, it would also allow the Brewers to return to the AL and even the leagues at 15 a piece, the divisions at 5 a piece.

I’ll have a write-up here in the threads tonight.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

My double-alignment idea

Here’s my double alignment idea:

Have the traditional 15-team-per-league alignment

AL East: Yankees, Red Sox, Rays, Blue Jays, Orioles
AL Central: Indians, White Sox, Tigers, Twins, Brewers
AL West: Royals, Rangers, Angels, A’s, Mariners

NL East: Mets, Phillies, Braves, Natinals, Marlins
NL Central: Pirates, Reds, Cubs, Cardinals, Astros
NL West: Rockies, Dodgers, Padres, Giants, Diamondbacks

In addition, we can have a set of five regional pods, each one with three AL and three NL teams

Pacific: Dodgers, Angels, A’s, Giants, Padres, Mariners
Interior: Diamondbacks, Twins, Rockies, Royals, Astros, Brewers
Midwest: Tigers, Cubs, White Sox, Cardinals, Reds, Indians
Northeast: Blue Jays, Phillies, Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Pirates
Southeast: Orioles, Natinals, Braves, Rays, Marlins, Rangers

Each team would play six series (three-game) against each team in their division (24) and six against each of the opposite league teams in their pod (18). In addition, the pods could be adjusted on an annual basis if desired.

This will leave 12 series which can be divided among the ten same-league non-division teams. A possible division is NFL-style, two each with all teams in one division, and two with the team in the third division that they were in the same place as the previous year.

Records and playoffs would still be by traditional division.

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by Orlando Rays on Mar 10, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Abolish the AL and NL and realign the divisions

Have and East and West conference style like the NBA and NHL

Northeast

Toronto
NYY
NYM
Bos
Philly

Southeast

Baltimore
Washington
Braves
Rays
Marlins

Northwest

Seattle
San Fran
Oakland
Colorado
Minnesota

Southwest

Anaheim
Los Angeles
San Diego
Arizona

Midwest

St Louis
Kansas City
White Sox
Cubs
Milwaukee

North

Cleveland
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Cincy

You get the idea. I can’t figure out where to put the Texas teams.

But play everyone and play the teams in your division just slightly more than the others. Play in your conference more than out of conference. Out of conference you play one home and one road series vs each team.

That would go a long way to fixing the competetive balance. Its not just being in the division with Boston and NYY that makes it tough. Its that we play 36 games vs them and have to compete for the wild card with teams playing completely different schedules. It just makes no sense.

by Tamparays01 on Mar 10, 2010 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

There's no way they abolish AL/NL. It's special and means a lot to the biggest fans.

You don’t change the game to appeal to the masses. That’s the surest way to lose the fans that pay the bills.

by rglass44 on Mar 11, 2010 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

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