Moments with Maddon: Recap
Due to my procrastination, we have two weeks worth of "Moments with Maddon" to discuss, so let's get right down to it. Last week, I asked a question about how, as a manager, you balance statistic and scouting information. I don't claim to have a specific answer about the "proper" balance between statistics and scouting; I was interested in stirring up some debate and seeing the different opinions people have. Here's the specific situation I proposed:
It's game-day and you need to determine your lineup. In particular, you're having trouble with the 2B/RF slots. You're debating between Ben Zobrist, Sean Rodriguez, Gabe Kapler, and Matt Joyce for the two openings, but can't decide which to use. There is a righty on the mound for the opposing team, which makes you lean towards using Joyce in right field and Zobrist at second in order to get the platoon advantage. However, your scouts have informed you that in the limited at-bats that Zobrist and Joyce have faced this pitcher, they have looked utterly and completely fooled. Zobrist is 2-19 against him with 7 strikeouts, Joyce is 1-9 with 4 strikeouts, and the scouts insist they both look even worse than those numbers. They can't hit this guy.
Conversely, Kapler and Sean Rodriguez both have exemplary scouting reports against this pitcher. Their "swing planes" line up with the pitcher's stuff and they've looked locked and loaded against him in the past, although in only five plate appearances each.
For argument's sake, let's say each player has been performing to that point of the season at the level of their CHONE predictions. No player is on a particular hot or cold streak. Who would you start?
Going into this, my theory was that most people would trust that statistics more than scouting when the disparity in talent between the starter and replacement was large (Zobrist versus Kapler), trusting that the more talented player would still perform better than their potential replacement despite a negative scouting report. When the talent level of players was more equal (like between Joyce and Rodriguez), people would be more likely to side with the scouting report. In other words, since the statistics suggest one player would be only a minimal improvement over the other, it'd make sense to trust your scouting report to try and give you an extra edge.
Lo and behold, that's exactly what happened. The leading response (52%) was "Zobrist and Rodriguez", which is what my theory predicted. I'm not going to claim to know if this is the "optimal" scenario because I don't know that for sure, but judging from our responses it seems to be one that makes a large amount of sense at least. Managers are constantly faced with similar decisions of how to blend the stats and scouts together in the way that makes the most sense, so hopefully this got you thinking a bit about how you'd personally go about blending the two.
And now, on to our scenario from two weeks ago. Here's a refresher:
Bottom of the seventh inning, no outs. Gabe Kapler is on first, Dioner Navarro is at the plate, and Jason Bartlett on deck. The Rays are facing the Yankees and the score is currently tied at four. A.J. Burnett is on the mound, but the Yanks have right-handers Phil Hughes and Alfredo Aceves warming in the pen. The Rays' bench is still full and consists of Kelly Shoppach, Willy Aybar, Sean Rodriguez, and Matt Joyce.
What's the most optimal strategy in this situation? Well, let's find out, looking specifically at the two choices that got the most support: pinch-hitting (39%) and sacrificing (33%).
Pinch-Hit
I talked about pinch-hitting some in our wrap-up on the first Moment with Maddon, and the main take-away point was that you should only pinch-hit in situations where the pinch-hitter is a significantly better hitter than the one at the plate. The reason for this is because hitters see their performances suffer an average of 10% when pinch-hitting, which turns a .330 Weighted On-Base Average (wOBA) hitter into a .300 wOBA batter and a .380 wOBA into a .345 wOBA (which is around league-average). So please, don't ever suggest that we pinch-hit for Evan Longoria.
In this situation, though, Navarro is at the plate and he's one of the weakest batters on the Rays (career .297 wOBA). Also, as some astute readers pointed out, he hits a lot of groundballs (career 41.1%) and is a slow runner, which leads to a lot of double-plays. You'd be risking leaving yourself without a backup catcher in case the game went into extra-innings, but pinch-hitting for Navarro seems to make sense and is a defendable position.
Since the end goal is to increase the Rays' chances of winning, exactly how much would be increasing our chances of winning if we were to pinch-hit for him? Let's run some numbers using Expected Outcome Analysis, multiplying the percent chance that an event will happen by its win expectancy (WE). That's probably confusing, so here's the formula I'm using for this situation:
Expected Change in WE = (% chance of hit, walk, or hit-by-pitch * change in WE to 1st and 2nd, no outs) + (% chance of out * change in WE to runner on 1st, one out) + (% chance of double play * change in WE to none on, two outs)
Sure, it's simplistic, but it gets the job done. When we calculate out the difference between Willy Aybar and Navarro using this formula (and including a 10% hit in production for Aybar), you end up getting .001 change in WE for Aybar and a -.008 change in WE with Navarro. To get some perspective, if you had a batter like Pena (approx. .380 OBP) at the plate, you'd get a .015 change in WE. So it's a small difference, but you would definitely be increasing your odds of winning by pinch-hitting.
Sacrifice Bunt
As a believer in sabermetrics, I'm automatically pre-disposed to dislike the sacrifice bunt. One of the basic tenants of "Moneyball" was that outs are precious as gold and you shouldn't willingly give them up, which is a valid sentiment considering each team only gets 27 outs a game. However, it's too simplistic to say that teams should never sacrifice; there are certain instances where playing for one run makes strategic sense. What are these situations where it makes sense to sacrifice? That's actually a really tough question to answer succinctly and if you want an exact answer, you'll need to read Chapter 9 in "The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball". In general, you don't want to sacrifice early in a game and should only consider it late in a close game. It depends, though, on the quality of the batter, the count, the speed of the batter, the inning, the score, the amount of runners on base...it's rather mind-blowing how many variables there are. I wish I could say it was simple, but it's actually quite complex.
That said, here's a summation of the principles to keep in mind, courtesy of "The Book":
"With a runner on first or first and second, and no outs, late in the game, with the infield playing up, all but the best hitters can bunt. Early in the game, if the infield is expecting a bunt, only the weakest hitters should bunt. The speed and bunting proficiency of the batter should be considered. Slow/poor bunters should rarely bunt and fast/good bunters can bunt more often." (pg. 283)
So where does this leave us for our game situation? Navarro is a weak hitter, a slow runner, and (I believe) a poor bunter. Actually, I don't really know how good he is at bunting, but my gut tells me he's not that good at it; feel free to correct me. If he is a weak bunter, though, this really makes it a tough call. Theoretically this situation would be ideal for a sacrifice bunt, but you also don't want Navarro bunting into a double play or giving up an out too easily.
How likely do you think it is Navarro will get a successful bunt down? Forty percent of the time? Sixty percent? Twenty Percent? Personally, I wouldn't have him attempt a sacrifice bunt unless I was sure he had higher chance of putting down the bunt than he did of getting a hit...plus some. To pick a number, I don't think I'd bunt if I thought he had less than a 50% chance of success. If he fails on the bunt, your win expectancy drops by 4%; if he's successful, it remains stable. In essence, you're trading an out for certainty - certainty that you won't hit into a double-play and that your win expectancy won't drop. If you're not confident about that bunt's success, though, don't even think about it. You should just pinch-hit.
Conclusion
In the end, I'd have to pinch-hit for Navi. I don't like his odds of getting down a successful sacrifice bunt and like bobr and others pointed out, it seems like a poor idea to be playing for one run against the Yankees. If it's the ninth inning, sure, why not? But in the seventh inning you're leaving them too much time to come back. Sacrificing does have its time and its place, but this doesn't seem like quite the right spot.
Again, though, these are tough decisions and legitimate arguments can be made in either direction. Sometimes when you're a manager there's no clear-cut "right" answer, so you have to hang your hat on a decision and hope it turns out for the best. If it pans out, you'll be hailed a genius the next morning in the papers; if you're wrong, you'll be skinned alive. C'est la vie.
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Actually, I think Navi is a pretty good bunter
At least, HE THINKS he is a pretty good bunter, judging by the number of times he tries the surprise bunt for a base hit. I haven’t look at any numbers to find out any percentages for the times he actually gets one down (do they keep those?), but my recollections tell me he is at least adequate.
Not sure how that would effect the analysis though.
I agree, he seems to be pretty good at getting the bunt down while his success rate at getting to 1st is minimal.
He seems to be an above-average sac bunter
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Good to know
Then if that’s the case…well, that just makes it more of a wash. Depends on your personal preference, I guess. I think playing for one run is still not the best idea at this point, but it seems like having him bunt would not be a bad play.
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by Steve Slowinski on Mar 14, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
He has a 23.3% career bunt hit rate
by benderbrodriguez on Mar 14, 2010 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think what would be more relevant
I think what would be more relevant would be a stat on the percentage of bunt attempts that end up down in fair territory. I don’t know of anyplace that keeps numbers like that, but I’m not really a stat head.
Also on the change in win expectancy, Aybar is more likely to produce an extra base hit which has the greatest change in WE
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Yeah, I didn't take that into account
I thought about it at first, but I felt like it ended up making things overly confusing. It did impact events to a degree, but the difference in WE between having runners on first and second and runners on second and third was actually minimal (only around 4%). The largest difference came with a HR, obviously.
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by Steve Slowinski on Mar 14, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't help but think if S-Rod didn't explode the first week of ST, the results might have been different
Maybe I’m wrong…
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That's quite possible
Are our opinions swayed by recent events and results? Most definitely, even those of us that try and remain rational about things.
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by Steve Slowinski on Mar 14, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
On the 10% PH decline
is there a link to that source. I believe it came from Tango.
I’d expect he thought of this, but I wonder if this decline is compared to the average performance of hitters in higher leverage siruations compared to their norm numbers. Because most PH situations are going to be in higher leverage situations, this would be appropriate.
Now that may have been done originally. And I don’t know if there is a normal decline for hitters in higher leverage AB’s. But I’d like to be sure this factor isn’t being overstated – if the averge hitter might also see a 10% decline, and the PH decline isn’t 10% in excess of that norm, then this factor could be (emphasis on could) overstated.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Mar 15, 2010 2:37 AM EDT reply actions
I don't have a link at the ready, but it's talked about a lot in "The Book"
So yes, I believe it does come from Tango. And I’m not sure what research has been done on performance based on LI, but the point remains that whatever the reason – whether it’s the high-leverage situation or the pinch-hitting – pinch-hitters still under-perform their career averages. So I wouldn’t call it “overstating” but mis-attributing.
All right, here’s a section from The Book that gives you an answer. "Batters perform slightly differently when under pressure. About one in six players increases his inherent “OBP skill” by eight points or more in high-pressure situations; a comparable number of players decreases it by eight points or more."
The difference in performance by leverage situations is a lot smaller than the change in performance by PHers, and some players slightly over-perform in high-pressure situations. So I think we’re still fine in talking about the 10% PH penalty.
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by Steve Slowinski on Mar 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't remember how they came down on it, but PH's are usually facing tougher, rested pitches that can let it all hang out
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