Wade Davis Wins Rays' Fifth Starter Spot
It's official. Davis will start the year as the Rays' fifth starter with Andy Sonnanstine as the long man in the bullpen. According to Maddon, this decision was prompted by J.P. Howell's status since Sonnanstine has flexibility and can be used against both righties and lefties. He also hints that Sonnanstine could be used in more high-leverage situations as the season progresses or fill in as a starter. This is similar to how the Rays used J.P. Howell in 2008, allowing him to start as a long man in the pen and then transitioning him to high-leverage situations as he proved capable.
Most projections peg Davis as a 4.00-4.50 Fielding Independent Pitching (FIP) pitcher and Sonnanstine projects to be around a 4.20-4.70 FIP pitcher, although most pitchers see a decrease in their FIP upon moving to the pen. Being used solely out of the pen could help Sonnanstine's stuff, allowing him to increase his velocity and strikeout numbers. Of course, not all pitchers perform better out of the pen (think Jason Hammel), but some can significantly benefit from the move (think J.P. Howell). If Sonnanstine proves to be merely a 4.00 FIP long man, though, he'll still be a valuable bullpen asset for the Rays.
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This is probably the best allocation of resources.
If Sonnanstine can go to the pen and have Howell or Chan Ho Park success then he’ll be nice little asset to have under control for a few more seasons.
I think Davis is going to be closer to that 4.0 FIP and could end up around the 3.5 WAR mark if he approaches 200 innings.
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by Tommy Rancel on Mar 24, 2010 1:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm rooting for that 3.50, but it seems unlikely, that's Josh Beckett territory
To use the parlance of our times, I’d say he has the same probability of putting up a 3.50 as he does a 5.50
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 24, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think Davis has a good shot to beat most projection systems
He’s got the talent and he’s had the conditioning time, so I think his transition should be quicker than normal. I feel like a 4.20 FIP should be very do-able.
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by Steve Slowinski on Mar 24, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Steve Slowinski on Mar 24, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This makes the most sense.
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Considering the quality of some of our "other" relievers
sending Sonny to the pen makes a lot of sense.
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Don't see Sonny as the short relief type of guy
My guess is Lance Cormier will get the more critical type of role (need better words than critical type oh yeah highly leveraged innings) facing both right and left handers in late innings. I see Sonny getting the mop up role in games the Rays are losing by 4 or more runs late in the game or if the Rays blow out a team by 6 or more runs again late in the game. Sonny could end up being like Jason Hammel was in 2008. Sonnanstine could end up pitching quite a few innings in 2010 especially if JP Howell’s arrival is delayed again.
Cormier is a converted starter too
Why do you think he is better than Sonny who actually had success as a starter?
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One thing I dont get...
Why stick Sonny in the pen? He has zero experience. That may be poo poo’ed by some, that experience in the bullpen matters. The Rays have no idea how he will react to the transition, whereas they have a couple guys at the AAA level that are far more familiar with the role and preparation.
Sonny may be successful in this role, as I hope he is. But I’m surprised the Rays are entertaining him in the pen this close to the regular season, with zero experience.
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But there’s a long list of guys who never had bullpen experience and jumped straight into key spots. Jonathan Papelbon. Mariano Rivera. Tom Gordon. J.P. Howell (who they did the exact same thing with a few years back, and literally had never pitched in relief before then).
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