3/6/10 GDT: Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
by Tommy Rancel on Mar 6, 2010 11:00 AM EST
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PrintYet another AL East game, but this time it is...them.
When: 1:05 pm
Where: Charlotte Sports Park, Charlotte County, Fla. (Sold Out)
TV/Radio/Web: WDAE 620 AM
Probable Rays Pitchers: RH Andy Sonnanstine, RH Wade Davis, LH Randy Choate, LH Jake McGee, RH Dale Thayer, RH Joe Bateman, RH Luis De Los Santos (Unless he changed his name, I think they mean Richard)
Rays Lineup: Jason Bartlett, Carl Crawford, Evan Longoria, Carlos Pena, Ben Zobrist (2B), Pat Burrell, B.J. Upton, Kelly Shoppach, Gabe Kapler
Probable Red Sox Pitchers: Felix Doubront, RH Adam Mills, RH Kyle Weiland, LH Fabio Castro
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So awesome to bar hop last night and talk baseball with random fans
We’re so close now.
"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions
Per Topkin
UPDATE, 11:01: Pat Burrell will play RF in Clearwater on Sunday and has talked to the Rays about getting to do so more often. Maddon said they’d try it more during the spring but was noncommital about doing so during the season.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions
if Burrell proves he could play RF (even if only in emergency)
it moves Kapler one step closer to the door, if Rodriguez keeps hitting. No need for 4 RH’s who can play RF. (Zo, Rodriguez, Burrell, Kap) and Jennings and Ruggiano in AAA if we get plagued with injuries and get desperate.
No way in hell we let Burrell play in RF
He just wants to not be seen as a pure DH type after what happened to Vlad, Thome, Damon etc. in FA this year.
by benderbrodriguez on Mar 6, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Heard the same thing last year. Burrell should never see the outfield in a game that counts
Too many options ahead of him. If he wants to play in the spring, go ahead.
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by Tommy Rancel on Mar 6, 2010 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm still not sure there is a spot for Kapler if Rodriguez wins a starting job
and proves he can play OF.
Rays aren't throwing a millon dollars away.
Plus there’s no reason to get rid of Kapler. He’s a + defender in the corners and he’s decent in center on a limited. He also mashes LHP and will probably be better against RHP although he doesn’t need to play against them. Rodriguez making the team has no effect on him.
The battle is Rodriguez vs Brignac for the backup middle IF job. The Rays aren’t going to waste Brignacs service clock to be a backup all year. Rodriguez mashing in spring just makes the move an easier sell. Bench will be catcher, kapler, rodriguez and aybar (if healthy). If not Dan Johnson.
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by Tommy Rancel on Mar 6, 2010 12:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There really isn't a battle barring injury.
Rodriguez is doing well, but he could hit .100 all spring and still make the team as it is currently constructed.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 6, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
financially it makes sense to keep him (unless we can trade him)
I don’t see him hitting much better against LHP than Rodriguez, who is younger with a higher upside and provides more flexibility. I like this even more if they plan on bringing in Blalock or Johnson for the bench. I agree that Brignac should be in aaa unless he is at least playing everyday against RHP.
Kapler had a .931 OPS versus lefties last year.
1.001 in 2008 and he didn’t play in 2007.
Even when you regress that, it’s still damn good.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 6, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Brignac also has more development left, especially with his terrible plate discipline and relatively young age. I feel like S-Rod is already ready.
by benderbrodriguez on Mar 6, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Is that Galifinakis?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Man this park sucks
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions
Atleast the fairgrounds look hopping
And thanks but no thanks PtB
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 6, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think WDAE has the feed on mlb audio, not sure if it'll be blacked out
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 12:57 PM EST reply actions
620 WDAE does have the feed.
Dave Wills and Andy Freed have the call.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Ya
whoever the ‘color guy’ was yesterday sucked. He told the story about the guy getting traded for a dozen bats, he then added the guy killed himself later on…maybe.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 6, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Sonny missing w/ ball one.
That’s a shock. What happened to Andy? Does anyone have a simple answer?
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions
He threw one ball everybody panic
Last year his control was worse. No one knows why.
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by Imperialism32 on Mar 6, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Andy walks the lead off.
Andy is 3-1 to Pedroia.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Like sexily?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah yeah
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Much better than last year.
Boo him now
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
not that one batter effects this but
if Sonny is in the rotation and it isn’t the result of 2 or more injuries I’d be dissapointed. The 5 in the rotation plus Hellickson should all be above him “in line” so to speak.
Once Hellickson is up
He’s up for good. Will NOT be first in line in case of injury (or rainout, doubleheader, etc.)
Why not?
If he’s on normal rest, I wouldn’t see a compelling case against him
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by Imperialism32 on Mar 6, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
this makes little sense
we are trying to win this year, why wouldn’t you call up the guy who gives you the best chance?
If it's a doubleheader or 15 day DL type of thing then Sonnanstine will probably fill in
But otherwise, I don’t see management making sonnanstine making 10+ starts in case of 60 day DL or worse.
by benderbrodriguez on Mar 6, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
although I agree that once he is up he will be tough to send back down
if he pitches as well as he is capable of.
Sonny Von Walkingstein WTF?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:12 PM EST reply actions
back to back walks.
Come on Sonny. I know it’s spring but, come on.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions
8 balls, 5 strikes
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions
I mean 10 and 5
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
+1
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 6, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Hickey should put himself in to pitch
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions
Workers unions hat Andy Sonnastine
because he won’t throw a strike…
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions
1-1 count to beltre
bases loaded, no outs.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions
line drive ot CC, one runner scores.
1—0 Red Sox.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Dave Wills and Andy Freed
I don’t listen to them all that often, so I’m curious as to what their tendencies are.
Thanks.
They're pretty good
Good coverage, I don’t think they’re as big of homers as most broadcast teams
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I like that they score the play and actually talk about the game
After hearing Mike Kay and the O’s announcers I’m pretty psyched.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Now you know what I have to deal with
watching Yankees games on YES during the season.
I rejoiced on the rare instance I got a different feed.
by FloridaownsFSU on Mar 6, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
FC scores a run for Boston.
2-0 uglies.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:22 PM EST reply actions
Any idea of the pitch count now Andy
or anyone else?
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 6, 2010 1:25 PM EST reply actions
no,
maybe low 30’s…. or high 20’s… if Ihad to guess.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Here you go
SPTimesRays
#Rays Sonnanstine threw 29 pitches in the first inning.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 6, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I've got him at 35 19 balls, 16 strikes
"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Zobrist gets a diving double play.
2-0 Rays at the end of the first half of the first.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:26 PM EST reply actions
lucky to get out of that with only 2 runs given up
I suspect we will see a new pitcher in the 2nd inning
yep
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 6, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Under
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by Imperialism32 on Mar 6, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Under.
He won’t start unless we get into a huge bind.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Bartlett grounds out to short.
1 out…
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions
Longo gets a steal.
2 outs. Pena @ bat…
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions
Longo with another rock star AB, works a walk
"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:37 PM EST reply actions
What did the pitch sequence look like for Pena?
My feed cut out
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:37 PM EST reply actions
I wasn't paying that much attention, sorry.
I was doing my honey-do list.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Choate throws a 6-4-3
DP to end the inning
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 6, 2010 1:44 PM EST reply actions
Nice inning out of Choate, 6 balls, 9 strikes, 0 hits, 2 ground balls and the walk
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions
CHOATE FOR LOOGY.
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by 4QB on Mar 6, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
1-2 pitch to Zobrist.
2-0 Boston.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions
Zobrist swings and misses
1 out.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:50 PM EST reply actions
I guess a AA pitcher should be owning our starting lineup
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Burrell strikes out.
BJ is up.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 1:51 PM EST reply actions
Time to wake up
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 6, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
WADE'S IN!!!!!!!!!!
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions
SWING STRIKES!!!!!!!
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions
In a beard off
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 6, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Darnell McDonald 2-base error gets Shoppach on 2nd with no outs
In other news, Darnell McDonald still in baseball
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who's pitching
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Adam(I think Adam) Mills
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by Imperialism32 on Mar 6, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Fielder's choice on a bouncer back to Mills, Shoppach tagged out, Kapler to 1st
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Bartlett base hit to right
Kapler goes first to third
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Crawford single to left
Opposite field hits everywhere
2-1 game
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Longoria flyout to the track in center
Bartlett tags to 3rd
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Pena check-swing strike 3
Going to move laundry from washer to dryer so I’ll miss the start of next inning
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Pena :(
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions
Davis starts Lars 3-0 gets it back to 3-2
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions
Then walks him
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions
McDonald line drive up the middle, 1st and 2nd
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions
Lin walks, Wade's up to 36 pitches
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions
Juiced with no outs for those scoring at home
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions
Eh, I'll just catch the box score later on
With all these walks this game is taking forever
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Davis gets a 6-4-3 DP, run scores, Thayer in as Wade threw 38 pitches
3-1 Sox, 2 outs McDonald on 3rd
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions
Thayer induces a first pitch flyout, not bad giving up one after bases loaded no outs
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions
Zobie dingjob to RF
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions
Shopp dingjob, 2 run jobby
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:38 PM EST reply actions
He's better than Jaso/Lobaton and isn't breaking the bank
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
His glove is wizzeak and though he has a great eye, I don't see him being much better than
.250/.330/.350 probably better than Navi, but he’s a liability behind the dish.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I do too
that doesn’t mean you can’t be critical of his play behind the plate
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Honestly
I haven’t seen him behind the plate much in the past year and a half. Yesterday he made some nice blocks, but really hard to judge catcher defense on the basis of a few innings.
I've seen him a couple times
It was pretty bad. But overall what we have heard is that he isn’t solid behind the plate, not like Navi was at times last year though.
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Last year.
I hope he has because catcher is a huge question mark in the future
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Without seeing a whole lot of him I wouldn't want to make that judgment
Sounds like his blocking could use work. He’s only thrown out 21% of baserunners in his minor league career. Navi is at 30% in the Majors and was 34% in the minors.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Navi isn't horrible throwing out runners, he just gets lazy and throws his glove at pitches sometimes instead of moving his body
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
4-3 Rays now
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions
Timmy B is in at SS, yay
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions
Isn't he a part of the
“Best shape of my life” camp?
by FloridaownsFSU on Mar 6, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Did you two have a donk-off?
He looks good, his forearms look bigger, and it looks like he has plenty of room to still add mass.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to see him get bigger, but then we run the risk of outgrowing the position which is what he's starting to look like
And he just threw one into the dugout
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
He's a pretty big boy
Not your stereotypical SS. Definitely a different body than Brignac or Bartlett (who are very different themselves). But everything I’ve heard praises his athleticism and makeup/work ethic.
Not really a big Tim Burton fan to be honest
Can't we all just get along?
by St Longo Drew on Mar 6, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
It's been all down hill since Ed Wood
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
That wasn't bad.
Though he didn’t direct that.
Can't we all just get along?
by St Longo Drew on Mar 6, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
that movie's so good
oh wait, you meant, ‘after ed wood’ right? cuz we got plex if you think ed wood is not good
Yeah it wasn't meant as a slight, it's so good that he will always struggle to do better.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I have heard the same.
It was filmed w/ 2D in mind, as apposed to 3D.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Mar 6, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I've got it on and muted, we got this
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
In our last one we steam rolled St. John's so I'm not really sure what your point is.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
We've struggled with them for years, we've lost 2 games to teams that could get in the paint and kick and play lockdown defense
Even if we lose, we’re better than 99% of teams and should have a good run in the tourny. This Kuric guy is going nuts. hogwash.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously they didn't game plan against a scrub going off
They’ll be fine should be assured of a 1 seed
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and good for UL fans since it's their last game in that barn and they get in to the dance. So congrats to them.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
how'd we score?
whats the score?
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
NANDO LEADOFF TRIPLE, LET'S GO BOYS
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions
WALKOFF 2 RUN DINGER, RAYS WIN RAYS WIN
RUGGIANO WITH THE DRIVE.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 6, 2010 4:09 PM EST reply actions
WOOOOOO
Suck it Sox.
Can't we all just get along?
by St Longo Drew on Mar 6, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Wait we won!?Y
YAY! Spring Training is meaningless
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