3/8/10 GDT: Pittsburgh Pirates @ Tampa Bay Rays
by FreeZorilla on Mar 8, 2010 11:00 AM EST
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Akinori Iwamura is not making the split-squad trip for the Pirates. Deezy getting his first start in RF for the Rays...
When: 1:05 pm
Where: Charlotte Sports Park
TV/Radio/Web: no tv/radio
Probable Rays Pitchers: Matt Garza, Lance Cormier, Alex Torres, Jeff Bennett, Mike Ekstrom
Probable Pirates Pitchers: Brad Lincoln, Brian Bass, Jeff Karstens, Jack Taschner, Jean Machi, Evan Meek
Lineup:
Bartlett SS
Crawford LF
Longo 3B
Zobrist 2B
Burrell DH
Upton CF
Shoppach C
Jennings RF
Richard 1B
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EVAN MEEK!!!
"It's good to have a little cushion. But it's not going to be easy."
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions
Not bad out of the pen last year
FB (93)/CT/CU pitcher with a <4 FIP last year, 4.18 xFIP, 4.00 tERA, decent amount of K’s, but lots of walks, the typical guy that the Pirates should be paying next to nothing.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Crawford, Upton, Jennings
THE STALLIONAIRES RIDE.
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by Tommy Rancel on Mar 8, 2010 11:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
zing
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Maddon wants to see it
You can tell you’re a Rays fan if you’re annoyed that MLB isn’t flexing to show a Pirates SS v Rays showdown?
Why would you torture us with the Aki photo?!
ughh at least he is the only person that thinks the Pirates can make it to the world series this year
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
Well for a team that hasn't made the playoffs in more than a decade and a half
I would give it another 5 years to make it a nice round number of 2 decades, no playoffs, before they even think about a world series
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
by Gone Phishing on Mar 8, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Who cares about the World Series?
Worry about the playoffs and go from there.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I have a hard time seeing them in the playoffs in the next 5 years.
Good management or not there isn’t a whole lot there. Who knows, though, 5 years is an eternity in sports.
they could be contracted!
For all we know, we’re on that list (if it exists still)
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by Gone Phishing on Mar 8, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
We can agree that there is more hope today than at the beginnning of the last 5 year plan
This is why communism doesn’t work.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
communism is slowly forming here in the US you know
(they just don’t want anyone to figure that out)
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by Gone Phishing on Mar 8, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I'm more worried about the killer ants breeding with the killer bees
Think about if killer ants had wings and stingers. It would be the end of civilization. Think about it.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I hate bees
They were put on this earth to piss off humans. Nothing more nothing less
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by Gone Phishing on Mar 8, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Honey pisses you off? You must hate America.
"Sure, because of the "cold weather" and rain." More bait and switch tactics by the New York owners of this team." --NikoHoullis, the lead blogger at Buc'em on racial and anti-semitic insensitivity.
Or to be arguably the most important outside influence to plant life
Without bees, this planet would look a lot like Mars
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I understand their high importance
but beside honey beeds and bumble bees, hornets are on earth just to piss off humans.
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by Gone Phishing on Mar 8, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I think hornets look like the monster from predator
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
The sins of the past should not be charged to the new FO.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
They fired Littlefield at the end of 2007. I wish Huntington the best. I always pull for the losers to become winners (like ourselves)
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by Gone Phishing on Mar 8, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Which is all well and good
But the new FO hasn’t exactly been making moves that make me think they’ll be contenders any time soon. They seem to be on a path towards perennial mediocrity. Lots of low upside, high downside types still.
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by Gone Phishing on Mar 8, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think Aki is going to do real well over there, he's the perfect teammate and is slightly above-average,
Playing in the NL could turn him into a >3WAR player, I just wish we had room for what he brings to the table. People can criticize Huntington about making a play for Aki when we could have had him for nothing, but I think it was a very astute move to make sure he grabbed Aki. He’s going to be a great fit over there.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Jesse Chavez
Wasn’t exactly a huge “play” for Aki. Has some upside, sure, but there are a lot of people like him. The Braves desperation led to Aki, and that was just a perfect storm of events that our FO was ready and willing to jump into.
That's not the point, we recouped something when we should have gotten nothing
They gave up essentially nothing when they could have given up nothing, but risked outside interference. It was a smart move on both sides. After reading your correction below me, I agree that Soriano was all on the Braves, and we got him for the right to pay his salary.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I think this year I'll do a monthly "How the Ex-Rays are doing" to keep every thread from becoming a repeat of last year's E-Jax debacle
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Those stopped happening once Jackson started pitching like Jackson.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
They would have stopped earlier if people wouldn't have still been insisting that
Sonny>Ejax
Lone Wolf
Sonny was > than Jackson in 2008 and 2007 and throughout the minors.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I think we can all agree that it would of been better for the rays to trade sonny instead of ejax.
Whether or not the process was correct is debatable, but the result certainly was not good.
Detroit didn't offer Joyce for either Jackson or Sonny
This was the part of the argument that really never made any sense.
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I assumed that one could get comparable players in return for sonny or ejax
perhaps that is incorrect
I don't agree with that
Sonny had flexibility in that he could go down to the minors and cost nothing. Edwin did not have that and he cost some money, and has gotten even more since then. Edwin was league average last year, Sonny was bad.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Sonny was the worst starting pitcher in MLB
Was Ejax out of options?
If you take contact into consideration, then Suppan/Looper were worse.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, Luckily he made near league minimum.
He’ll never be at Wilson Alvarez level.
eh..
G. Olson, David Hernandez, Oliver Perez, Brett Myers, Micah Owings, Bartolo Colon, Chris Young… were worse (along with several other SP’s with at least 50IP)
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah,. you're right.
When Sonny’s bad, he just seems so bad.
Agreed
last year was ugly as hell, Sonny pitching is never too pretty with all the hits, but when his control/command fail, he’s helpless.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Jackson's making $8M next year. I'm cool with Joyce.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm happy with joyce too, but id be happier if we would have traded sonny before he became awful
and kept ejax for a year and then traded him this offseason when his value for was apparently quite high.
Hindsight is 20/20
We weren’t going to get anything as good as Joyce in return for Sonny. I’m still not confident that Joyce is as good as we could have gotten for Jackson, but whatever. Trading Jackson was the right move.
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I'm not going to fall into the arms of hindsight.
I don’t think anyone saw Sonnanstine falling quite like that. Even at his worst I figured league average. Obviously that was incorrect, but whatever. I can live with what happened and hope something is learned from his failures for a future case.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Remember the Rocco for Andrus/Salty/Chuck James rumors?
Hard to believe Andrus is the only one worthwhile nowadays.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Even if in this scenario we could only trade Sonny for a low level MiLB player?
That means we have no Joyce, we have/had E-Jax and would have traded him this offseason for who knows what. I’ll take Joyce and the “known” (somewhat) return vs the roll of the dice based on hindsight.
And Jackson would not have fared as well had he played in the AL East
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Probably nothing great though
I can’t think of the last time a player with Sonny’s profile (soft tosser, bad traditional stats but good advanced stats) was traded for anything of value.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Agreed. Ejax almost certainly got us something more than Sonny would have.
But Sonny had options which would have helped his trade value
Sonny's options were such an afterthought
He had a fantastic 2008. No one thought he would be back in the minors.
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Sonny had a 4.85 xFIP in 2009
Jackson’s career xFIP? 4.83.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
If you mean with FIP? Yes.
The Trop is a pitchers park though, so it’s to be expected.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
But he has a much stronger history of it than most
And while the Trop may barely be a pitcher’s park, AL East park trend towards being hitters’ parks.
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Career FIP is 4.38, career xFIP is 4.47.
It’s not a huge difference.
BIP still has to be heavily regressed. His career isn’t that old to say he’s definitely got a BABIP issue.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Like 400 innings.
Granularity way too high.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
If you're using ERA, then yeah.
I assumed he meant FIP though, since xFIP and ERA is a weird comparison, no?
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I meant xFIP vs FIP. I remember the discussions
about his ERA is much higher than his FIP.
Kind of.
Except when I think of a pitcher “underperforming his peripheral stats” sort of thing it’s generally “he’s given up a lot more runs than that.” You know?
That or BABIP.
Oddly, Garza outperforms his xFIP by like a fifth of a run per nine.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Might that have more to do with the variation in his performance?
He’s usually really good or really not good
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
For sure. He's on or off.
So is sonny, except he seems to always off more often than on
SIERA
The top to names on that AL East list a lot of make sense for what SIERA is trying to do. It says it wants to help SO pitchers who give up HRs because they give up solo shots (Matt Garza) and help high BB guys who also get GBs (Wakefield).
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My beef with SIERA stems mostly from my ignorance
but also, how did they determine that SO pitchers tend to give up solo shots? Is this theory or has it played out in the data? Plenty of high-K/high-BB pitchers give up more than solo shots.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Presumably regression analysis, since that's what the entire metric is composed of.
That and taking shots at FG metrics so BPro can sell some more subs.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
I figured it was mostly the latter
If I’m selling lemonade and some punk down the street is giving it away, my biz plan sucks.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Tango's bbFIP
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/tangos_lab_batted_ball_fip/#8
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Why haven't you made a post with the Rays' bbFIP yet?
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Do I have to do everything around here?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I was kidding
I may do a post across all the various metrics for the Rays rotation. Tango unleashed about 3 in those threads that I was unfamiliar worth.
It was more fun working on this week’s Post-Arb hearing performance piece and the Veteran WS pieces
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I was just joshing you
Wait til you see my SLGCON v. SwStr% piece on the Yankees, Rays, & Red Sox.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Its not frequently compared, but it seems to make as much sense as FIP to ERA
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I meant FIP+ / TRA vs ERA+
Maybe it’s not fair to look at things that way, but 90% of baseball analysts will still look at ERA first.
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Though to be fair, most pitchers w/ BABIP issues
don’t last long enough to build a strong enough sample size
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Isn't BABIP partially credited to luck?
I guess I don’t get how you can have BABIP issues if its out of your hands.
I do get that guys that give up a lot of contact or are “hittable” will probably trend towards a higher BABIP
Partially
IMO, it looks more like luck on a macro basis, but it’s definitely more luck for some than others.
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I guess my lack of understanding comes from hearing that pitchers with BABIP issues wont last long
but everyone refers to BABIP as being based on luck.
If you see any player that deviates from this average (.290-.300) to an extreme, start thinking that there might be some luck going on.
So if a pitcher has a BABIP of .380, how do you distinguish if this is due to bad luck or just flat out sucking? I would assume that after 3 yars of a BABIP that high its easier to see. I guess this is where other metrics would probably back up the bad luck versus bad pitching idea.
BABIP definitely isn't luck at the lowest levels
Low BABIP is definitely a skill in the low minor leagues, especially. I honestly think that it’s just that at a certain point, you’re so close to hitting the line that an incremental increase in skill just doesn’t do much in terms of stats. But if someone was throwing straight 50 MPH fastballs over the plate all the time, he’d have a pretty high BABIP.
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BUT
Some guys who don’t have much of a BABIP skill do still make it to the majors because they’re able to make up for it in other regards.
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There's been some work done recently on batted ball type BABIP at various levels
Groundballers smell far rosier in the big leagues.
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What's the logic behind that?
Seems obvious that ball on ground won’t leave park, but BABIP doesn’t include HR’s I thought.
Better defenders at higher levels
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
That's always been the case
But what I’d love to see is BABIP by PitchFX. Hopefully we’ll have that info in 5 – 10 years, at least for the mid and upper minors. Obviously groundballers will do better than fly ball pitchers, but some types of pitches are just easier to hit than others. Yes, some of it would reflect in LD%, but not all of it.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Most BABIP theories aren't reliably testable for that reason
Especially when there’s probably more of a correlation in subsets than on an overall level. But start looking at those subsets, and you’ll never get a large enough sample to be reliable.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Isn't the problem that no one with a 0.400 BABIP can last
long enough to be able to attribute it to sucking instead of bad luck.
Funny story:
So I was at the game Saturday, and we were on the berm in LF on the Sawx side. Lars Anderson was stretching out and jogging right in front of us between innings. As he’s stretching out we have the following exchange:
Me: Better stretch that back out good Lars…
He says nothing but gets a big cheesy smile, laughs, and throws a wink my way.
Me: You gonna hit this year?
Lars: I hope…
It was pretty funny, and I think he was a little suprised to have someone recognize him and give him shit about his back and his year last year.
Did the wink subtley imply that he wanted to take you to go see Hot Tub Time Machine after the game?
Because that’s usually what a wink means in my book.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Rglass and Lars spend a night in a hot tub in 2010
and wake up in 1986!!!!111one
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Rglass needs to get his shite together on this fantasy league WTF commish?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Post going up at 7.
I was in St. Pete all weekend and didn’t take my comp. I checked my email and stuff on my parents, but I wasn’t really on it at all after thursday afternoong.
Don’t worry it’s coming.
Checking your stuff on your parents?
Nasty….doesn’t your mom read this site?
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I texted my friend b/c I thought it was him in BP...
“What does YOUR BOY Lars look like?”
“A big, blonde douche.”
“Yup. That’s him.”
Says the man who goes home with a random 40-year-old couple w/ kids
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I thought about doing something similar on Sunday with Brett Myers
But it would have been something like “I didn’t recognize you in the new uniform and without your fist buried in your wife’s face”
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 8, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
At least he didn't Roethlisberger any chicks
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Funny that everyone wants to "wait and see" with Big Ben
but Pac-Man was a dead man walkin’ right away.
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 8, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Fool me once, shame on you Ben
Kobe has learned to keep his shit on the DL, its not hard when you piss hundreds.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
You can not compare the two situations at all
Pac Man has a very lenghty rap sheet and is lucky he isn’t in jail right now. The fact that they allow him to still play in the NFL is ridiculous
Lone Wolf
To Pac-Man's credit, he justly had the reputation of a troublemaker as far back as College.
But yeah, I think the media needs to take the kiddy gloves off with Rothlesberger; between the 2 sexual accounts and him doing his best “Kellen Winslow: Stunt Rider” impersonation.
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no radio??!!
That was the only thing I had to look forward to at work today……CC, Upton and Jennings together in the outfield too! Come on!
Skip work, go to the game. It's spring, they'll understand.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
live in San Fran
used to love playing hooky to go to a Spring training game though. At least now I get to use my sick time for Giants or A’s day games.
by free hotdogs on Mar 8, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Best part about an A's game is the leg room
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
If for only a fleeting moment, a dream realized
CC-Upton-Jennings. This would be a fun game to watch. Maddon said this was done by design, to see the three together. Is there perhaps a chance this could be the OF when Spring Training ends?
by raysfaninminnesota on Mar 8, 2010 12:23 PM EST reply actions
Zobrist and Sean Rod hit lefties
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think they're hesitant to bank on a double platoon that has a young stud only platooning essentially.
They may be hesitant to having Zobot play anything but 2B going forward so he can concentrate there. Who knows, but he’s cheap and useful.
S-Rod can do that and more
and Zobrist can also play out there
Thought Perroto would, but I guess not.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm heading to a few parks this week.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
This is the the first time I've been back for ST since I went away for college.
I forgot how nice it was. Man I miss the Bay Area.
Attending games is the only good thing about ST.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Learning how to say their names....
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
listening to baseball while at work
is not so bad either….of course they had to piss all over my dream today. Guess I will have to settle for Yankees and Phils…..again.
NOT IF IT'S A GATOR GAME LOLOLOLOLROFLSTFU
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions
Anyone have a Gameday Link or the secret for how to find one in the Spring?
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http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/
Has links to all games
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by Imperialism32 on Mar 8, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Thx
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Ronny Cedeno to lead off
So one out…
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 1:05 PM EST reply actions
Don't be bitter
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
I don't like the Cubs anymore really...
but I did like Cedeno, looking at his stats now, I have no idea why. He makes more stupid plays on the base paths than a hungover Upton and has no power.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Also
how the heck do we delete a blog from our ‘My Blogs’ i’m tired of seeing BCB and their 600 buc em fanpost.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
You might be able to do it from your dashboard.
I know it can be done; I just can’t remember how.
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Ya
there used to be a leave blog option, looked every where can’t find it. Thanks anyway.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if BCB lobbied to get rid of the opt-out ability
because so many people were fed up with the insane dribble?
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I dont think there is one.
Ive tried to unjoin several but cant find any option. SBN has told me that option is “unavailable at this time and may be added in the future”
Thanks
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Also
if anyone was planning on getting MLBAudio you can get it and two free Cardinals tickets by signing up to ‘Cardinals Nation’ on their website, for the same price as buying it straight from mlb.com.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 1:18 PM EST reply actions
Struck out the side
With a Milledge single thrown in
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by Imperialism32 on Mar 8, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Like this
, got it from Raysprospects, Hellboy using the Curve to make Jeter look stupid.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty crazy considering Jeter is so good at driving that pitch to RF
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know how to re-size a gif
So that next time I make one, it’s not quite so big?
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by Imperialism32 on Mar 8, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold night?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe I should go "buy" Photoshop
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by Imperialism32 on Mar 8, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
You could use GIMP
which is free and in many ways comparable.
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It's worth the "price"
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Crane K's the side
lovely
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:28 PM EST reply actions
That might be a testament to the lineup of:
B. Harris, J. Jones, and some other guy.
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by Some other guy who does not care on Mar 8, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
FOR FUTURE REFERENCE,
SCREW MATUXZ, HE DOESN’T LIKE FANTASY BASEBALL.
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by Some other guy who does not care on Mar 8, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
B Harris hit over .300, he's good
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Long inning we must be balling, I hope it refreshes with a 10 spot
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:37 PM EST reply actions
It's nice to see PTB doing anything but a groundout.
I think he may surprise us this year. In a good way.
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Variety is the spice of life.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Garza has a nice 18.0 K/9 going right now.
I think he’ll carry this momentum over into the regular season.
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Maybe this will be the year he proves
he’s more than a .500 pitcher
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Funny
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/3/1/1332417/i-got-dye
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:52 PM EST reply actions
Heyward hit a bomb today to RF.
Tigers’ announcer’s response:
last time i saw a homer hit that far, troy percival retired
Sometimes they come back
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Shoppach K, Deezy single but thrown out stealing, Richard walk, Barty GO
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Erik Kratz threw
DJ out, his MiLB CS is 34%, so not horrible for Jennings.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions
Would be curious to know
If DJ just has the green light this spring or if he was told that he should be running every time he’s on first.
You're the one with the inside information
You should ask him.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Maddon
gives those certain guys the green light, I wouldn’t be surprised if he gave DJ it. Topkin had a piece up earlier with some quotes from Maddon praising Jennings aptitude on the bases.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I'd have him steal nearly every time he got on.
Spring training is for practice.
Very late to the party regarding the Pirates future but here goes
They have a crazy amount of hitters
In like 2 years, there team will be
C Tony Sanchez (who lets them trade Doumit for pitching)
1B – Jeff Clement(I think he will finally get a chance and be awesome)
2B Andy LaRoche
SS Chase D’Arnaud
3B Pedro Alvarez
LF Jose Tabata
CF Andrew McCutchen
RF Gorkys Hernendez
Maholm, Duke, Alderson, Lincoln and McCutchen in the rotation. Yeah they are going to be awesome
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
I'm sure all of those guys will exceed their potential
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Especially- Gorkys, Tabata, and Alderson
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
They have some very prudent people in their FO, for sure.
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Remember when our sick future OF was going to be
Dukes, Baldelli, Delmon? Shit happens.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Gday is inaccurate, batted balls are on first pitch, walks are 4 balls, and Ks are all strikes
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3.0 ip 3 h 0 r 0 bb 5 so
Yes sir
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by Imperialism32 on Mar 8, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Having a Sonny/E-Jax convo
is like rubbing a genie lamp to get RJ to appear.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions
What if we turn it into a Sonny/Hammel convo?
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Someone mentions
Hammel saving Percy’s ass vs. the Sawx.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when people were freaking out over Niemann/Hammel?
And the difference was actually nothing?
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Im thinking if Hammel can pitch so well in the NL West
then Ejax is going to have a good year with AZ and wind up signing a deal he has no business getting
All part of the plan, the Yankees sign him and then we walk all over him.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Travel tips are nice
6. Do you have any expert travel advice?
GB: Get yourself a good suitcase where all the clothes don’t get squashed to the bottom of the suitcase – one of those ones where you can fold the suits over and the pants. You get some suitcases, where you lift it up, and everything goes right to the bottom, it’s all squashed up. You wind up having all these shirts that you had dry cleaned, ending up having to get dry cleaned again. And there’s nothing worse than having to pull a shirt out, and you’ve got to iron it or have it dry cleaned again because it’s all wrinkled up.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/touchingbase/2010/03/nine-innings-grant-balfour.html#ixzz0hc9jqPTb
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Hanging out in the grass in RF.
Managed to get C-Pain, Ruggiano, Dillionaire, and someone else to acknowledge us. Carlos had the sweetest smile.
That's where I headed to, but my parents were pretty setup on that side.
Silly parents wanted to be surrounded by Sawx fans.
If Beej can't get a hit off of Lance Bass it might be time to hang up the spikes.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions
You could've gone with
If Beej can’t get a hit off of Lance Bass it might be time tohang up the spikessay Bye Bye Bye.
I don't get it
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Now to photo shop
Brandon Bass on to that cover
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
It's just his gay look
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He's trying to be super duper handsome
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Happy!!
HAPPY!!!!
happy!!!!
HAPPY!!!!
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It better have Jerry Stiller and Will Ferrell
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody likes a bragger
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of bragging I defendeed my Ph.D. two weeks ago.
Officially, a Dr.
Congrats
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Congratulations, which field?
Please say Villainy
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Evolutionary Biology with a bent towards public health
Dissertation Title: Ecological genomics of the malaria mosquito Anopheles gambiae
Awesome
So you’ll be developing biological weapons in about 5 years?
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The idea is actually to develop a mosquito strain resistant to malaria
and then have it replace the wild mosquito species that transmits malaria in Africa. Similar in theory to GM corn and stuff, but much more difficult in practice.
Sort of like how lovebugs were introduced to central Florida then, eh?
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Stupid Silent Spring
DDT those MF’ers
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Did your findings include such phrases as
“It is due to God that Anopheles gambiae has…”
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm totally bragging if I get on N Plus One.
Indie cred would raise though.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
If N plus One doesn't work out, Jonah can hook you up with NOfTwo.com
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Yeah but I mean places that aren't going to block my emails.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don't actually read playboy but they apparently do have a lot of literature pieces in the mag, many about sports
some from relatively unknown writers.
Probably want to aim a little lower to start though…
1-1
Tabata triple, Alvarez IF single, 2FO, 1GO in Cormier’s first inning.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:35 PM EST reply actions
I'm just making stuff up now
while waiting for a BABIP,FIP,Sonny,E-Jax, and Hammel cage match
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Africa loses...
(sorry)
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
for my spelling
looses*
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Cormier sucks
His ERA is up to 4.50
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions
More like he sucks for giving up triples.
Looooooser
How do you hit a triple on that outfield...
Also I liked how you said you were afraid to post over at BucEm for fear of lynch mob and your first post gets an RE from Niko, entitled “I totally agree”. I wonder if he reads DRB?
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty crazy that people used to think we were exclusive over here and new people had to be wary of the "lynch mob"
It seems like we’re getting new, intelligent members on a daily basis.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
We'll just dick joke you to death
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I was never afraid of a lynch mob
Honestly I just don’t like posting unless I know what I’m talking about. The advanced stats thing is interesting to me, but its not anything I’ll ever get into fully analyzing, you guys do a good job of that.
But I do enjoy the Rays, have since the Devil was in them.
And I enjoy the childish dick jokes, because that kind of sophisticated humor is right on my level.
Only if you can't spell or use punctuation...
Or be coherent. Or capitalize.
The shift button test is really like an IQ test.
Just hit a button and you’re good.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 8, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
You're not one of those weird people that uses CapsLock are you?
The ones that just hit it once to get the capital letter and hit it again. Thats so not right.
Maybe Sutree
He’s been known to Roethlisberger a chick from time to time. HUCK IT, CHUCK IT, FOOTBALL.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
You know I thought the same thing.
I was more disappointed he didn’t allow commenting on his fanpost about why comments can’t be edited and why he can’t post videos anymore like he used to. Its not like I have to say “I told you so”, but damn I wanted to.
My brother runs a blog on here and said he thought it was odd that niko didn’t know you couldn’t post full games. I mean its not exactly rocket science.
On topic: I actually like Cormier, wish I could have seen where that triple actually went.
Professed ignorance is rarely to get you off the hook
I would think showing property of the NFL would be pretty obviously a no-no.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
And has been for virtually my entire lifetime
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I bet more male Americans
know the whole phrasing to ‘without the express written consent of the Natl. Football League’ than know the whole Natl. Anthem lol
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Back to the BABIP thing.
Take Clemens. He had a well above average BABIP his first ~130 innings, but he was striking out something like a batter per inning and his HR rate wasn’t four per nine or whatever.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=815&position=P
SIERA interested in me primarily b/c they came out from behind their fortress
It made the stat publicly relevent. Most BPro stats aren’t even worth writing about outside their community. It would be like BPro using :)%. They just wouldn’t get it.
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StB in left, Dan Johnson at 3rd, Jaso behind the plate
PETA’s boy fur maniac at 2nd, and the Cajun God of Baseball at SS
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 8, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Joyce in CF
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 3:16 PM EST reply actions
You still show up only at meltdowns even when not televised! Where's the new SF1?
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He doesn't have a 40 man spot anymore. He's here as an NRI
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by Tommy Rancel on Mar 8, 2010 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What love?
I don’t recall anyone being enthralled with Jeff Bennett.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Oh god
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
2Ks from Ekstrom in an inning
Jaso nailed a runner stealing 2nd for 3rd out
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FurManiac singled, Joyce Double, and SRod single, and we are tied
All off Evan Meek, PowerArm
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That picture of Angel Chavez is stupid
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 4:05 PM EST reply actions
Foley is Good
@TBO_Rays #Rays 3B coach Tom Foley most unpopular guy in stadium after holding John Jaso at 3B on Dan Johnson’s 9th inning 2B. Headed to 10th, 3-3.
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It's as much of spring training for the coaches as it is the players.
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
Foley is in the best shape of his life and is working on new techniques
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Navi had no chance of scoring and he sent him.
Then he started to send EJ(I think) in what would have been a close play, but tried to hold him about 1/2 way down the line. They threw behind him and he was done at that point
Lone Wolf
Was anyone able to verify if the no-trade
was the main reason for breaking off talks with CC?
Someone mentioned that a few days ago around here…
One more year Brett. One more year.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Mar 8, 2010 4:18 PM EST reply actions
Joyce flyout and S-Rod K, before NANDO! drives Dillon home on a two-out single
Durham does it again
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whats the inning?
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by Gone Phishing on Mar 8, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Good lordy, no team wants a piece of Durham right now
Fundamentals and timely hitting FTW
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Mar 8, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
TIMOTHY
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