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In Defense of Randall "Pink" Choate


It's easy to scapegoat Joe Maddon's decision to bring Randy Choate in the game to turn around Jorge Posada prior to Curtis Granderson's plate appearance. After all, Choate was brought into this organization as AAA LOOGY depth behind Brian Shouse

Choate has a poor FIP for his career vs. right-handed batters for a reliever, 4.85 to be exact. Choate's K/9 drops from 9.78 vs lefties to 4.52 vs righties while his uBB/9 rises from 2.85 to 3.42. That may not tell the whole story. After all there is another highly valued skill among relievers, the art of inducing groundballs.

For his career Pink has induced 53.9% groundballs vs lefties, and 57.1% ground balls vs righties. In 2008, we traded for a $3 million dollar reliever with a similar skill set, though right-handed. Chad Bradford recorded a 67.2% career ground ball rate vs righties and a 55.7% ground ball rate vs. lefties. He has a career FIP of 2.81 vs. right-handed pitching and a 5.45 vs. lefties. In 2008, he faced twice as many righties as he did lefties.

Neither pitcher has any ground to stand on for facing opposite-handed hitters if we use FIP as the only evaluator. What if we introduce some defense into the equation? Choate pitches with sink when he is on which helps minimize home run opportunities. He has allowed  0.7% of LHB faced to hit home runs. You might expect someone who can only face batters of the same hand to see a big spike versus opposite handed hitters, yes? RHB achieved a  a home run 1.3% of the time. I didn't break down each other pen option's splits but here are the total HR% for the rest of the 08 pen: JP Howell 2.5%, Lance Cormier 1.8%, Grant Balfour 2.1%, Dan Wheeler 5.0%, Joe Nelson 3.8%, and Brian Shouse 4.8%.For his career vs. a sample size of 465 major league RHB, Choate allowed a lesser home run rate at 1.3% than any 2008 reliever's total HR allowed rate which includes same handed match-ups.

With a runner on first, Pink represents the Rays' best chance to induce a double play regardless of opposing batter's handedness. I don't disagree with the notion Choate had thrown more pitches in the previous game than he is used to. Fatigue may have been a factor. With an above-average defensive infield, a reasonably low walk rate, and a monster 57% ground ball rate, Randall "Pink" Choate can be a situational option for the Rays vs. a right-handed batter. Unfortunately, the one in a hundred had to happen today in a 2-1 ballgame. As Pink said himself said courtesy of @SunSportsRays,  ""I really can't explain the last 2 days...I'm a sinkerball pitcher and the ball ain't sinkin'. It causes bad results."

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It doesn't make sense but every Randy is a Pink to me

Dazed and Confused- Randall ’Pink" Floyd

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 11, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dazed and Confused reference?

Ladies and gentleman we have confirmation that Free Zoe is in his his 30s

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a great movie, FTR

Who's that peaking through my window? POW. Nobody now.

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Apr 12, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm young, so I don't get it

All my references are to the pokomen and jonas brothers

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Came out 2 years before Friday which everyone around here seems to love

Can’t believe my age has you stuttering. D&C is classic.

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 12, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

ITS A JOKE. IM MAKING FUN OF HOW OLD YOU ARE OLD MAN

…they say that sense of humor is the first thing to go

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know you're kidding

I am astonished at the number of people who not only didn’t get the reference, but when explained, had never even heard of the movie. The movies been out for 17 years now.

I’ve changed my mind, Choate should never face righties and this thread never existed. Damn you Pink!

The stuttering thing was a joke too, in reference to your consecutive uses of the word his.

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 12, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I don't read what I write, and quite frankly I'm surprised you do.

Also, Boyz Club

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS CHEEZY DOODLES

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh.... Boy Club

No one else is in on my jokes

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 12, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're just not hip with the young people like me.

RAP! VIDEO GAMES! SKATEBOARDS!

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sweep the Leg?!?!

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 12, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Referring to Bill Simmons - AKA "The Sports Guy" at ESPN

Who tries so hard to be unique that he has literally become a parody of himself.

by TheRevTy on Apr 12, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'm surprised you've heard of him then

He quotes the Karate Kid a lot. Since Karate Kid is soo much older than Dazed and Confused, I figured Bill’s frequent endorsements drew to you to the movie.

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 12, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that a reference to the new movie featuring Jackie Chan and Will Smithlette?

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Fresh Prince has kids???

Man, Paren’t Just Don’t Understand

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 12, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's short for Paren(tal) (uni)t(s)

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

But only in the Summertime

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by Buc Wild on Apr 12, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I can beat Mike Tyson...

in a karaoke match singing “In the air of the night”

by SRQman on Apr 12, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean "In The Air Tonight?" you monster

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

DMX?

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 12, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The sake, the rat, the cat, the dog

/all dogs go to heaven

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I posted this in the hhahahahahahahahohwow thread, but it deserves double duty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTC_omY3Qgo&feature=player_embedded

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been attention whoring with the same 3 to 4 guys at my school for the last 10 to 12 years

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a big fail on your part

You young’uns just got no respect

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by Buc Wild on Apr 12, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not called Karate Kid,

will be called Kung-Fu Kid

/original Hollywood

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by Buc Wild on Apr 12, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoosh

A fool thinks himself to be wise.
A wise man knows himself to be a fool.

by Warde on Apr 11, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Inside joke is inside.

And it isn’t inside DRB apparently.

Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. I'm on a horse.

by Thaddeus? on Apr 11, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Randy Floyd was a character in the movie Dazed and Confused

Maathew Mc was a 20-something stoner still partying with the kids at his old HS in the 70s. He had many great lines, but he referred to Randy Floyd as Randall Pink Floyd, as in the music group.

No worries, focus on the GB rate

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 11, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

But still....

A fool thinks himself to be wise.
A wise man knows himself to be a fool.

by Warde on Apr 11, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently it didn't matter which reliever we brought in

Not even Cormier or Sonny were shut-down today.

I see the reasoning behind it, but I still would’ve preferred to see Cormier at the outset though, just for the fresher arm.

by IntrepidX on Apr 11, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Great work, FZ.

It’s really easy to see the surface of things and make a judgement, but I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here.

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by BWoodrum on Apr 12, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not saying Choate should be DFA'd, but I disagree.

He shouldn’t be pitching in a high leverage situation against Jorge Posada… much less after throwing 20 pitches the night before.

Glad we got to use Soriano 0 times this series.

by Suttree on Apr 12, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why pull Shields in the first place?

I disagreed with this move by Maddon. Worst case scenario, Shields gives up a 2-run HR too…

by Pinto on Apr 12, 2010 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Shields is far more likely to give up the home run than Choate

The outcome was the least likely of all possible outcomes. Choate does not give up home runs regardless of the handedness of the matchup. Shields has historically faded beyond 100 pitches. Selection bias generall works for pitchers with this metric given that they will go further beyond 100 when they have great stuff, so the very large performance decline is a concern. Shields is also far more home run prone than Choate.

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 12, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see the game? Shields was just looking for a chance to get carpet-bombed.

He wasn’t having a particularly good game, Maddon made the right call to pull him, he made the wrong one in going to Choate.

by kericr on Apr 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other news relating to shitty bullpen fodder

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 12, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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