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Burrell, Brignac Homer as Rays Beat Athletics in 8-6 Snooze-fest*

ST. PETERSBURG - APRIL 25:  Pitcher Wade Davis #40 of the Tampa Bay Rays pitches against the Oakland Athletics during the game at Tropicana Field on April 25, 2010 in St. Petersburg, Florida.  (Photo by J. Meric/Getty Images)

*Was it just me, or was that one of the most boring 8-6 games ever? I don't get it - there were big home runs, comebacks, some nice relief pitching, and a close score at the end, but I found myself having a very tough time paying close attention to the game. Maybe it was the fact that most of the scoring came in the beginning of the game. Maybe it was I was distracted by the work I was doing concurrently. And maybe - I think this is closest to the truth - I feel so confident in the Rays right now that any rally by the Athletics seemed a useless gesture. Why even bother, Oakland? We're just going to score more runs.

Thank goodness the Athletics have such an anemic offense. If we were facing the Yankees or Red Sox (or really, any team that doesn't have.320 wOBA players plugged into their 3, 4, and 5 slots), Wade Davis might have been knocked out as early as the 3rd inning, a problem for our current six-man bullpen. Davis had fared well in the first two innings, letting up only two hits while striking out two batters; he even picked a runner off first. He wasn't getting first pitch strikes - I counted seven first pitch strikes out of his 23 batters faced - but he was getting enough strikes to keep from falling behind in counts.

And then the 3rd inning happened.

Star-divide

The inning started poorly, with a walk to the A's 8th place batter; then the next batter singled. With two on and no outs, one of Davis's fastballs tailed back over the plate, allowing Cliff Pennington (who?) to homer and make it 4-3 Rays. Davis then proceeded to lose what little command he'd had, falling behind to the next few batters in a row and letting up another run on multiple hits and a walk. He eventually got the third out, but not before he'd thrown around 40 pitches in the inning and let the A's tie the game.

Davis's problem seemed to be that he relied upon his four and two seam fastballs too much last night to the exclusion of his other pitches. While Brooks Baseball is down right now and I can't check his Pitch F/x data, the velocities and pitch breaks provided by GameDay suggest that Davis threw his fastballs quite often while only mixing in his slider and curveball on occasion. Maybe Davis's secondary pitches weren't working as well today and so he chose to throw mainly fastballs, but his fastballs weren't enough to fool the Oakland batters multiple times through the lineup.

Luckily for Davis, the Rays' offense is still stuck in high gear. The Rays scored their first four runs on a combination of singles and doubles, including a 2 RBI double from John Jaso. (Is there anything this man cannot do?) Once the A's came back and tied the game, Pat Burrell decided to put the game out of reach and cranked a three-run home run off a hanging inside curve from Ben Sheets. Burrell still hasn't hit like we'd like (.305 wOBA prior to last night), but man, the couple hits he does get are BIG. The numbers back me up on this too; according to the clutch stat on FanGraphs, Burrell has been the third most clutch player on the Rays, right behind Evan Longoria and Carlos Pena. He may not be contributing much, but at least he's making the most of it when he does.

Also noteworthy: Reid Brignac hit his second home run of the season and Randy Choate pitched an effective inning and a third (that sinker's sinkin'!). I love Sean Rodriguez and Barty, but Brignac needs to be playing against righties at this point.

Overall it was a good game and although I wish Davis had pitched better, he still managed to gut through five innings and keep the Rays in the game; you have to give him some credit for that. The one truly negative thing from the evening, though, was the attendance. Tonight was the Rays' first weekday (as in, Monday through Thursday) game outside of their opening series, and the attendance was meager: 10, 825. On one hand, hey, attendance blows for all teams during the middle of the week, so drawing around 11K fans isn't something to get in a tizzy about. Well, I wish it was that easy.

In the past, I've been extremely patient with the Tampa Bay-St. Pete area and fans, pointing out that there are a ton of variables that make it tough for the Rays to draw well - lack of public transport, oversaturated market for sports, inconvenient (especially for weekday games) stadium location, a franchise history of losing, high unemployment in the area, and the list goes on and on. With the Rays off to such a fast start, though, we're quickly reaching a tipping point where all those article written about the Rays' attendance issues start to gain credence. I'm not saying we're there yet, but I always said that the fans would come if the Rays won. Well, the Rays have won for the past two seasons and they're currently off to the hottest start for an AL East team since 2003, so those fans better start showing up soon. I'm the eternal optimist so my verdict is still out (it's still April, for crying out loud), but if the Rays stay hot, I hope we don't see many more games with attendance this low.

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Im also concerned about attendance

but its the athletics and a tues so the fans get a pass. Also choate looked good, the ground ball he got vs the righty was a good sign for his sinker.

by CubFanRaysaddict on Apr 28, 2010 5:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Oh it wasn't just you

That got very boring at certain points like when Kennedy and Statts talked about Craig Breslow’s intelligence for like a fucking hour.

A few things

- HR shots keep teasing us but there couldn’t be anyone who didn’t KNOW Brignac’s HR was gone
- Burrell’s overall numbers may be low but he has personally won 2 games for us.
- Davis had 4 very good/great innings and 1 awful one, sadly the 1 awful one was so bad, we couldn’t even get him to the 6th, we need you to be efficient, Shields!
-John Jaso needs to keep playing at the very least when Navarro is 100% healed and off suspension and down the line, a platoon of Jaso and Shoppach would be a beauty
-Finally, Rafael Soriano continues to look better every time he pitches. If our offense wasn’t so damn good, he would lead the league in saves, the guy has been untouchable for his last 4 or 5 outings.

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by joeybw on Apr 28, 2010 5:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I stayed up uber late doing work and watching the game last night (Copenhagen time)...

…and the Craig Breslow conversation is what finally got me to sleep. I appreciate nerds in baseball but damn.

A 5th starter going 5 innings is no shame…we all knew he was going to regress. Davis clearly is like Price and Niemann before the ASB last year, a work in progress.

Also, Jaso is the man.

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Apr 28, 2010 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

The poor guy has to face Greinke next.

Sabathia, Beckett, Buerhle, Sheets, and Greinke so far, all aces. And the Rays are 3-1 with him starting. He hasn’t been lights out or anything, but he’s been great at staying out of trouble and limiting runs to keep us in the game. It’s good enough for me

by acablue on Apr 28, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Luckily Greinke gets no run support.

The guy can go 7 innings and not give up a run, but his shitty offense wouldn’t do anything to help him.

Then their fail-tastic bullpen will give up runs for him.

by blackraven on Apr 28, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks to their bonehead manager

who STILL refuses to use Soria before the 9th inning even though he’s their only good reliever. Happened again last night.

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by Jamie DeVriend on Apr 28, 2010 11:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think this underrates Davis

I think we’ve all watched Wade Davis when he’s really on. I watched him versus the Os in person last year – that was the 10 strikeout, CGSO. Yes, it was September, and yes, it was the Orioles, but he was utterly dominant during that outing. He had a few others – his first start against Detroit was absolutely outstanding as well. I think he is an exceptionally talented pitcher.

What I saw last night was what I saw in 2006 from Jamie, 2008 from Matt. The strike zone was tight last night in several instances (fair, but tight). Wade responded by trying to pound his fastball, trying to make the perfect pitch, etc. He was throwing, not pitching, and he was having a LOT of trouble getting his emotions and his mindset under control. You could see it in his reactions on the mound – he’s usually a very calm, controlled pitcher without a lot of visible displays. Last night, during the 3rd inning, the meltdown was visible in his reaction shots. It’s not uncommon for a young pitcher.

What I think should be noted and remarked on is that he was able to bounce back from that, get his head on straight in the dugout after the offense picked him up, and put up zeroes. That’s not an easy task for a kid, and he battled back. Looking through pitch-by-pitch, he was much more in control of himself and the ball in the 4th and 5th.

by sstamour on Apr 28, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ill settle for this davis the rest of the way

As you say, he has been up against mostly aces. Needs to get a bit of command back and he will be fine.

by OneTonneBaby on Apr 28, 2010 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

It was a pretty boring game. I just threw it on in the background while I was doing other stuff.

But a win is a win. Guess we’ve gotten a little spoiled in the early going, but there were times late last year where we would have paid for any kind of win.

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on Apr 28, 2010 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Attendance

Everybody has a comment, but it seems that no one went to the game??? I did.

Steve you hit on most of the points but it is the A’s, a team we see what once a year at home and basically never on TV. The only player that anyone knows on thier team is Gabe Gross (It was cute to hear the old ‘GABE…..GROSS’ chant though).

There were basically zero kids at the game, duh, school night. Therefore not so many parents. Attendance will pick up in the summer like it always does. It is games like this that convince me that a new stadium would be nice but would not draw more fans.

by srqraysfan on Apr 28, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I totally disagree. A stadium placed where more

of the population works and lives would encourage folks to take in a game at the spur of the moment, especially the corporate sector

by sternfan1 on Apr 28, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was there

It was nice buying $9 seats and sitting behind the bullpen 6 rows up.

I hope people stay away, I want my free awesome seats

Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt.

by Warde on Apr 28, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Historically for Rays weekday games you can get tickets for about $0

Outside the gate you shouldn’t pay more than $5.

Sadly I remember people giving away ALCS tickets vs Boston. Someone gave me tickets walking up to the game (I already had tickets), and I couldn’t sell those tickets. I ended up giving away 4 for a couple beers.

Attendance is pathetic. The only times you really have to pay anything are weekend games. By paying anything I’d still say nothing more than $10

Go Gators!!

by matthan on Apr 28, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

How does one go about getting those cheap tickets?

Seriously. I dont go to many games, but would be interested in the “low priced” options.

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on Apr 28, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check stubhub.

Nothing suits, then you go haggle with the scalpers.

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like a total sucker.

The last couple of games I bought tickets on Stubhub and paid $20-$35 a seat for 4 seats. I just ordered 4 for the Hall and Oats night concert (my wife likes them) 2nd row upper deck behind the plate for $23 a seat.

by terp12 on Apr 28, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I used to do when I lived in town

Fun Fact: The Rays are undefeated when I attend home games.

by IntrepidX on Apr 28, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, but the Rays have reached the point where it doesn't matter who they play.

They should still draw. It’s not like the old D-rays days when the visiting team was the draw. A 15-5 team should be draw enough.

I think Stadium location has everything to do with the lack of attendance on weekdays

by Sveet on Apr 28, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is how I feel, although we'll see what happens as the season goes along.

If things keep up like this, though, the Rays FO will have some pretty good ammunition to approach the town with.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Apr 28, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know a lot of people think that there are no other markets to move to.

Which is somewhat true, but I don’t think they will have trouble finding a market that can support a 1st place team with 10-15K on weekdays and 20-25K on the weekends and build them a new stadium.

I really think they will be gone if a new stadium isn’t approved in the next 5 years

by Sveet on Apr 28, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

To where?

Are they going to build a stadium with their funds there?

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the problem they hit.

They might bluff about moving, but I don’t think it actually happens.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Apr 28, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Nowhere is there a stadium built that could support a big league team, and it’s getting harder to dupe public officials into footing the bill. If they are going to foot the bill fo a new stadium they may as well do it where there is already a meager fanbase.

It’d probably be cheaper to build in the area anyway with the real estate situation and plenty of underworked construction crews.

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why does everyone think that it could never happen

Maybe chances are it doesn’t, but I really believe Stu when he says the Rays won’t be playing in the Trop in 2027

by Sveet on Apr 28, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd hope not.

Only the Dodgers, Cubs, Royals, Blue Jays and Red Sox will playing in a stadium older than the Trop in 2012. Three of those are historic, and the other 2 are pretty nice (especially the Royals).

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Royals stadium just had a complete makeover, IIRC so that's pretty much new.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Apr 28, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes it did.

It might as well be new they did a really nice job on it.

by SRQman on Apr 28, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The Trop has had some pretty extensive makeovers, though, as well. It still isn’t close to as nice as Kaufman.

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

We’ll see what happens with the economy. In th emeantime, I don’t think anyone will be making any moves in sports with the inherent uncertainty.

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish we could get a "Man on the Street" kind of perspective

Anyone want to walk around downtown St. Pete during lunch and take a survey? The only question is, “What is the Rays Record?” I’m guessing 38% of people know it, max.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Apr 28, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

April isn't over yet

And we already have a 2 game division lead and a 4 game wild-card lead. Times are good.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 28, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I couldn't pay attention because I was watching "Run Ricky Run!"

It was enlightening

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by Gone Phishing on Apr 28, 2010 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't watch the game at all

Too much studying to do. But I agree WRT Davis and Attendance.

by IntrepidX on Apr 28, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Must've been fun in person

I like to go to weekday games and the Rays’ offense certainly put on a show.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Apr 28, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

btw who doesn't think Pat Burrell is starting to come around

I do! Atleast both homeruns have been game winning homers.

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by Gone Phishing on Apr 28, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

for the record

I’ve always been a big fan of Pat when he was with the Phillies so thats why I’m like the only one on Draysbay that always has faith in him

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by Gone Phishing on Apr 28, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno. The power is there, but he had a better April getting on base last year.

I’ll think he’s starting to come around when he goes on one of those monster month-long tears against the AL that he was known for doing in Philly against the NL.

He went on a tear last year, but it was during interleague which essentially doesn’t count since all the AL East teams beasted the NL last year.

by kericr on Apr 28, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty tired of the "move the stadium" banter

A new location won’t do anything. In fact I think it will hurt attendance. I have been a season ticket holder for 5 years and sit in 147. I live and work in south Sarasota and make it to atleast 60 games. The rest of my tickets are given to family and clients. Rarely does a game go by that my seats aren’t filled. I have met atleast 40 people that are also season ticket holders that come from Sarasota, Venice and/or Northport. We already drive over an hour and moving the stadium further away will cause all of the Manatee and Sarasota County fans to think twice about driving the two and half hours round trip. They are the Tampa Bay Rays not the Hillsborough County Rays.

As to last night’s attendance – it was a school night against the Athletics. Attendance always picks up once school is out. Many teams, even big market ones, have a hard time filling the stadium in April and May on a school night. The Atheletics are also currently not seen as a competitive team despite being in 1st place in the AL West. The real attendance issue is why the Fri, Sat, Sun games aren’t at capacity every week.

Regardless, this game was very entertaining! One of the best at home so far!

by AaronM on Apr 28, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the Trop from my perspective, but it can't generate enough Revenue stream for the Rays to be consistently good.

I think thats part of the problem though to, I’m in Venice and from what I’ve heard I can get there just as fast as it takes people on the the other side of the bay at times. The Trop is very convienient for people coming up from the south on I75/275 but it’s not in a centralized location in Tampa Bay.

by twenty5psi on Apr 28, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I somewhat agree

I live within 10min of the stadium and make it to about 30 games a year.

I don’t think a 30-40 min drive from Tampa should be enough to keep fans away. I really don’t understand the commute argument at all, but I have kind of resigned to the fact that it doesn’t matter if I think they should make the drive it only matters if they do make the drive. And it appears they are not making the drive at all. The more and more I think about it the more the Carillon area makes sense. This still keeps Sarasota and Bradenton in play because it moves the stadium only about 10min farther away and it makes it a lot easier for people in Tampa and Clearwater to make the games.

by Sveet on Apr 28, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

As do my parents.

The heart of Rays Nation is in pinellas county. Tampa can have the Bucs.

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is definitely true

I work in Tampa and I can say the support here is nothing compared to the support that I see in St. Pete/Pinellas.

Everywhere I go in Pinellas I see people wearing Rays gear and if you go into a bar or restaurant with a tv the game is on.

Almost everyone I know in St. Pete is a huge Rays fans and watch all the games. In Tampa there are just a handful of people I know who are like this. I actually walked into a sports bar last year in Tampa when the Rays were playing and they didn’t even have the game on and no one in there even cared. I couldn’t imagine seeing that in St. Pete

by Sveet on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Now that the team’s good though, they’re clamoring to move ’em across the bridge. Eff that front runners. Go watch the Yanks.

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sarasota and Manatee counties are the same way

When the Rays are on the road, I can’t walk into a sports bar, restaurant, or any place with a TV that doesn’t have the game on with people huddled and watching intently. The support from the south is very strong and loyal.

by AaronM on Apr 28, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya ever think that if they moved to Tampa you would see more interest from people in Tampa?

I HATE the Trop. I hate the surroundings, I hate the parking, I hate the dome, I think it is overall a lousy experience. Inside it is drab and gloomy other than all the advertisements. I compare the entire experience to Camden Yards and it is just sad what we have. Raise my damn taxes and get it over with!

by terp12 on Apr 28, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I almost didn't bother, figuring it was too early and we'd only get lots of debate.

But I think the Rays’ FO is starting to get rather testy about it. I don’t have much to back this up besides a general feel I’ve gotten from multiple quotes I’ve heard over the course of the season, but they definitely have a right to be fed up at this point. And they can use it as leverage for a new stadium.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Apr 28, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ass To Mouth?

Gross, dude.

"I think we should put this guy on blast and let all the guys around town know to make sure you don’t leave your GFs around Evan Longoria while he’s in town because he has no class or respect for other men."

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Apr 28, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do they have a "right to be fed up?"

Revenue sharing pays the bills. The team is still profitable. It takes time to build a fanbase. Etc.

Last year, coming off the WS we averaged 23,974 in the first 10 games. That includes 3 sellouts against Boston in the opening series when they had all the celebration stuff, a weekend series against the O’s, and a Tues-Fri against the M’s and A’s.

This year, we’re at 24,275. That’s with one weekend series against the Yanks, a weekend series against the Jays, the opening series against the O’s, and the one Tuesday game.

So attendance is up. It only has more to go up. In 2008 through the first 10 games we averaged 17,803. So the long-term trend is improving.

What do you expect ownership to say? They’re businessmen. They are very good businessmen. They make more money the more butts are in the seats. Are they supposed to insinuate they’re happy with attendance?

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

The overall attendance numbers should improve this year no mattter what.

It’ll probably all be fine at the end of the year – a pennant race would kick things up a la 2008. My thing is: the Orioles are drawing 10K to weekday games right now. I’d say with the Rays right now, 10K is all right here and there, but it’ll be disappointing if we see a large number of games this year with attendance that low. Maybe this is an outlier – it probably is – and so we’ll have to see.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure this is still true?

"I think we should put this guy on blast and let all the guys around town know to make sure you don’t leave your GFs around Evan Longoria while he’s in town because he has no class or respect for other men."

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Apr 28, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly what I was thinking.

"I think we should put this guy on blast and let all the guys around town know to make sure you don’t leave your GFs around Evan Longoria while he’s in town because he has no class or respect for other men."

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Apr 28, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, fine - KC, TOR

Take your pick. No place is going to be a perfect comparison, but we’re drawing during mid-week games like we’re a bottom-of-the-barrel team as opposed to one of the best in the league.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Apr 28, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

people in the know tell me corporate money just isn't there

yes, it’s darned near impossible for a family living on the east side of tampa to get to a weeknight game with the kids — takes 60-90 minutes to get there during rush hour. but this would be much less of a problem if the rays had any corporate support whatsoever. take a look around tonight and see how many suites are filled. individual tickets help, but that’s what pays the bills.

(and, apropos of nothing … the bucs will have plenty of empty seats this season, too).

by mcd410x on Apr 28, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The Rays got unluvky that during their biggest boon it happened in the area’s biggest bust.

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is in my opinion the strongest argument for moving the team to Tampa

I am sure that corporate support would be much stronger if the team was in Hillsborough

by Sveet on Apr 28, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very true that the bust is truly horrible timing

But it’s not guaranteed that a move to Tampa proper would help on the corporate side. While there’s a lot of individual money here, we need actual businesses headquartered here.

Cities with the most Fortune 500 companies hq’d: 1. New York, 43. 2. Houston, 27. 3. Dallas, 14. 4. (tie) Chicago, Atlanta, Minneapolis, 9. 7. (tie) Charlotte, St. Louis, San Francisco, 7.

We have Jabil and WellCare. And Publix, if you count Lakeland. Not good.

by mcd410x on Apr 28, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thrilled with how the Rays are doing right now, and when I get back to TPA in May, I'll be at as many games as possible.

But, does the lead we have in the standings really mean anything significant? Clearly it means something, but aren’t we still in the margin of error in terms of 2 series.

In other words, if we lose two series with the Sox or the Yanks, won’t that erase our lead?

by Elasticman on Apr 28, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Well of course our win % won't be above .700 at the end of the day

But I think the good start is important for a couple of reasons. For one, it’s a big psychological shift from last year, when we (IIRC) were below .500 at this point in the season. In the offseason, everyone from Friedman to Maddon to Longoria mentioned how tough it was to climb back out of that hole. Now that they’ve legitimately got off on the good foot, having a losing series or two won’t feel like a confidence-crusher. It will be thought of as a bump in the road. I know as fans involved in statistical analysis we don’t talk much about the psychological aspect fo the game, but it’s still a large factor, especially for our young pitching staff.

Secondly, as posted above, those games are now in the record books and aren’t going anywhere. There is less pressure to overperform throughout the rest of the season. When you combine it with the slow Boston start, this chunk of games might look very important as we pull into the final stretch of the season.

by Zach Attack on Apr 28, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are a whole lot of differences from the early part of last season to the early part of this one.

It’s almost like the exact opposite. They were roadkill last year, right now they have the best road record in the league. Starting pitching stumbled early last year, this year it’s been stellar. The team played down to it’s competition last year, and while you could possibly make a weak case for them doing it this year as well, at least they’re winning those games instead of losing them.

Coincidentally, the bullpen was really solid at the beginning of last year and has been a weak point so far this year, but the starting pitching has made that hole pretty moot, and it looks like the team is getting that righted as we sit here right now. The ONLY thing that appears consistent from last year to this is how fucking horrible Dioner Navarro is.

by kericr on Apr 28, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give him time.

He’s a really streaky hitter, it’s just that his streaks last for years at a time and appear to be heavily influenced by what level of baseball he’s playing at.

by Zach Attack on Apr 28, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the Trib the other day

Steve Henderson wrote a column about attendance in which he cited tv ratings as “spectacular” for Rays games in Tampa. Where does he get these numbers?

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on Apr 28, 2010 10:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

How tight would it be if we won a hundo?

Right now we’re sitting pretty at 15-5. To win 100 we’d need tpo win 60% of the remaining games. We got it.

by rglass44 on Apr 28, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I was looking for this to put that coolstandings link to

They’ve got us on pace to win 100 with a 70ish percent chance of getting playoff dough.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Apr 28, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quote from Davis
“Early on, all I threw was fastballs,” Davis said. “I went to my offspeed [pitches] and it wasn’t there, and that kind of helps them out, having to sit on fastballs only.”

Per mlb.com

So it seems you’re correct when you say “Maybe Davis’s secondary pitches weren’t working as well today and so he chose to throw mainly fastballs, but his fastballs weren’t enough to fool the Oakland batters multiple times through the lineup.”

by ChiBurbRaysFan on Apr 28, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Update to R.J's stat

If you figured the Rays were a 90-win team, you can now expect them to win 94. That fourth extra win went in the bank last night.

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by Jamie DeVriend on Apr 28, 2010 12:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I like how all the comments on ESPN are negative about the Rays being #1 in the power rankings

like really? we haven’t played enough good teams to be first in the rankings?

look we don’t just win games, we win by ALOT. Look at our run differential. I mean we play the under .500 teams but atleast we blow them out.

Sounds like there are poor loser yankee fans that can bare to see their beloved bombers behind the Rays.

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by Gone Phishing on Apr 28, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

It is a stupid argument

With teams only around 20 games a series or two can dramatically impact a record. What I mean is that a team playing a losing a series vs the Rays is already under the 8 ball in terms of being over .500. The hurdle in such a short season is much tougher. I’d imagine because of this if you looked at the schedules of the top teams you’ll see that they’ve played a more weaker schedule and the bottom teams have generally played a tougher schedule. It is the nature of the beast this early of the season and simple mathematics.

Go Gators!!

by matthan on Apr 28, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brignac just tied Prince Fielder in HRs

if i were managing, I’d be playing him against the occasional LHP, as well as every rhp

by daveh33 on Apr 28, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

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