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The Hank Blalock Ultimatum: Should the Rays Call-Up Blalock and Cut Pat Burrell?

Despite never appearing in a Rays uniform in a game that actually counts, Hank Blalock (and his agent Scott Boras) has the attention of the Rays universe. From talk radio, to websites, to the television telecast, Blalock's name is a hot  button issue. After signing with the Rays in spring, Blalock agreed to go to Durham with the option to opt out of his minor league deal and see employment elsewhere. Judging by comments from Scott Boras, that time is NOW!

If/when Blalock envokes the clause, the Rays will have 48 hours to add him to the roster, trade him or cut him loose. That said, there are a variety of scenarios being thrown out as possibilities. The Rays could simply option Sean Rodriguez to make room for Blalock. Sure, having Willy Aybar, Pat Burrell and Blalock would limit Joe Maddon's flexibility on the bench, but it would be a quick fix. Other than Rodriguez, the only other option scenario that would make sense would be Andy Sonnanstine.

With the way the Rays starters have been going, a seven-man bullpen seems a bit redundant at this point. At times, the Rays have been looking for ways just to get relievers work because they've gone so long in between appearances. Grant Balfour and Lance Cormier, especially, have the ability to go multiple innings and if the bullpen were to be really taxed, Sonny would be a call away. This scenario seems unlikely, but not completely out of the realm of possibility.

More on the Blalock situation after the jump...

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There is also the notion of trading Blalock. According to various media outlets teams like the Seattle Mariners and the Chicago White Sox among others would be interested in Blalock's services. However, I don't know how much Blalock would fetch in return. The situation reminds me of the Adam Kennedy situation last season in which the Rays moved Kennedy to the A's as a favor and received Joe Dillion in return. I don't know if losing Blalock for a Joe Dillion-type or even a low level prospect really helps the 2010 team. And I'm not sure Friedman would get a good enough piece to where we can say he made this deal with the future in mind.

The most popular choice, and with good reason, is calling up Blalock and cutting Pat Burrell. Even before Blalock signed, or the first pitch of the season was thrown, Burrell was saddled with the dubious label of sunk cost. On the other hand, Burrell got off to a decent start and had one great weekend in Fenway Park - buying him a little goodwill with the fanbase. Last week, I wrote about the reverse platoon split that gave us a little hope of getting some, any, production from Burrell. Going into last night's game, Burrell had a .368 weighted on-base average (wOBA) against righties and Joe Maddon had expressed that PtB would get the bulk of at-bats against right handed pitching (RHP).

Last night, however, Burrell looked completely lost against RHP, albeit a really good one in Jered Weaver. He went 0-3 with three strikeouts against Weaver. With a runner on second base and right-hander Kevin Jepsen on the mound, Burrell was lifted for platoon partner Willy Aybar; obviously not a good sign for Burrell. Again, Weaver is a fantastic pitcher, and he made many Rays look silly last night, but, even with the good start against RHP, Burrell's .378 BABIP against them is likely to regress which would make an already bad situation even worse. 

Cutting Burrell has to be on the table for the Rays, but as R.J. Anderson asks on fangraphs.com, what is the guarantee Blalock is better? Sure, he has gaudy Triple-A numbers, but they are Triple-A numbers after all. The good news, is Blalock has had a lot of success against RHP in his career (.362 wOBA). On the other hand, most of that damage came earlier on in his career. Over the past three seasons, his OPS against RHP is a modest .740.

In conclusion, like most, I am still intrigued by Blalock and would like to at least see him get a shot to prove himself at the highest level.. However, unlike some, I'm not willing to revamp the roster to accommodate a non-roster invitee on the best team in baseball. Personally, I think the Rays will try and keep Blalock and Burrell by going the option route. Although, if a team calls up with a deal Andrew Friedman feels is a value, expect Friedman to listen closely. Either way, Blalock's name will be a trending topic in these parts until a decision is made. I'm just glad Andrew Friedman is making that decision and not someone else.

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For argument's sake

Blalock can play defense and his bat speed can not possibly be any slower than Burrell’s.

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

1B

but he can play 3B if we need him to.

Burrell can play nowhere

Free Dan Johnson!

by Sveet on May 13, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not being sacrastic, but...

How many games has he played at 1st in Durham? Also, why would you want him playing ahead of Carlos Pena?

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by Rays_Rev on May 13, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

2-43, HE'S WASHED UP

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by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a joke btw, before anyone gets riled up and bans me.

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by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

And a funny one at that

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by Rays_Rev on May 13, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has the ABILITY to play if necessary.

That provides flexibility. Of which Burrell has none.

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Technically, PtB has the ability to play right or left field

Which is about as much flexibility as you’ll get w/ Blalock.

Look, I’m not trying to argue Blalock vs Burrell. I’m just saying not to use Blalock’s defense as an argument for DFA’ing Burrell.

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by Rays_Rev on May 13, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Competency in the field is a difference-maker, though.

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

So because he can play 1B that means I am for playing him over Pena?

I’m just stating a fact. He can play 1B and Burrell can play nowhere. This adds value

Free Dan Johnson!

by Sveet on May 13, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just keep holding on to that value...

because it’s not much.

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by Rays_Rev on May 13, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

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by Rays_Rev on May 13, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, really enjoyed the tip sheet you found for radio guys.

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Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. I just get so angry on the afternoon drive...

It’s magnified because of the way the Rays are plaing.

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by Rays_Rev on May 13, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is the stupidest part, they're still playing >.700, and Chicken Little has pieces of cloud in her drink.

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by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Football mentality

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by Rays_Rev on May 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Injuries never happen.

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leslie Anderson can play 7 positions as soon as tomoorow.

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Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

:D

I think he’s gonna be an awesome sign for this FO

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by staplemaniac on May 13, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It clearly isn't the reason I want him instead of Burrell

I want him instead of Burrell because Burrell is bad and Blalock could be potentially better.

It’s still a positive that he can play in the field if needed to

Free Dan Johnson!

by Sveet on May 13, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the chances of Blalock being worse that PtB are near nil.

(Use of “nil” to honor WC)

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by DeadeyeRR on May 13, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's certainly not nil

The major leagues are a different place entirely and blalock’s having a crazy babip, the AL West <AL East, and there’s no telling how blalock will take the move to DH,

by benderbrodriguez on May 13, 2010 2:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can handle that.

I just don’t think talking up Blalock’s defense is a good argument when it comes to switching him and Burrell. Because clearly, the Rays don’t plan on playing Blalock at 1st too much or 3rd for that matter.

No matter how bad he is, Burrell is still at some level an option in the outfield. I’m not sure Blalock is.

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by Rays_Rev on May 13, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody said Blalock would win an UZR contest, lol.

But if it comes down to similar offensive production, then competency in the field has to separate them.

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not using it as an argument

Just saying that it’s an added perk

Free Dan Johnson!

by Sveet on May 13, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blalock woudl play 1st if Pena went down

Thats depth. There is no scenario where this incarnation of PTB plays the field. Blalock is competent at 1st.

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by FreeZorilla on May 13, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

He should play GOLDEN STAR 1B

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Maddon thinks so...

 Check this morning’s Times.

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by Rays_Rev on May 14, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was surprised

Maddon seems to be entirely out of favor with Aybar’s defense. Im not sure he feels that way about Blalock, who knows at this point. I’d prefer to keep Zob at premium positions given how well he plays them.

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by FreeZorilla on May 14, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with Maddon when it comes to Willy at 1B

You’re right, I like Zorilla at 2B/SS/RF… but, if Pena was to get hurt playing Zorilla at 1b would make the team better at other positions.

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by Rays_Rev on May 14, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm primarily talking about Blalock

Maybe vs LHP, Ben at first. Vs. RHP I’ll take DanJo or Blalock with ZO doing his thing at the premium spots.

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by FreeZorilla on May 14, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's playing 3B almost exclusively in Durham

According to B-Ref, 24 games a 3rd (without an error, FWIW), 1 game at DH, none at 1st.

by nomoredevil on May 13, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are paying Burrell no matter what

Why not atleast get some production out of his roster spot by cutting him.

Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt.

by Warde on May 13, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

I really think they will send Srod down

at least for a little while so they can still keep everyone

Free Dan Johnson!

by Sveet on May 13, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Doesn’t look like they will cut PtB and S-Rod looks like he may need a little more time in Durham before he is ready to hit real major league pitching. It would be a shame to let Blalock walk without seeing what he can do when healthy. He isn’t too far removed from being an All Star. If he stinks up the joint, they can cut him. It’s not like he’s making 9 Mil.

by J.P.'s my boy on May 14, 2010 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is no guarantee that Blaylock will be better

but I am VERY confident that he will not be worse. And if he is worse, then you cut him loose and you have Aybar be your everyday DH. This team has options. It’s not like we’re going to be kicking ourselves saying, “damn, if only we’d held on to Burrell.”

PTP’s just not a good baseball player anymore. The experiment didn’t work. It’s okay, let’s just move on. Blaylock may very well be better than Burrell but I seriously doubt that he will be noticeably worse.

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by stpetelawyer on May 13, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Last time I checked DH production was way down league wide

Of course the Mariners black hole at DH of Sweeney/Griffey probably drags it down a bit, but just naming DH’s off the top of my head, there just aren’t many out there that are producing like you would expect from a position that is all about offensive production.

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by Tommy Rancel on May 13, 2010 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Vladdy Doddy

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Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Arlington has been very kind to him

.485 wOBA at home .258 on the road.

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by Tommy Rancel on May 13, 2010 11:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's still doing well, you can't just say "Park Effects" and not give the man credit for what he's done.

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That was literally the worst move the Rays FO has made since the new regime

Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

In limited action, Jim Thome.

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hernandez was better

Navarro 2009 wOBA – .258
Hernandez 2009 wOBA – 276

Free Dan Johnson!

by Sveet on May 13, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and I think that's my point.

You’re potentially picking between bad and bad. We shouldn’t expect Blalock to be the savior either. If he is, yippie. If not, we just plug someone else in. It hasn’t hurt the team yet.

by kericr on May 13, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok I misunderstood

I thought you were saying that because Blalock has the potential to be worse than Burrell that we shouldn’t make the move.

Free Dan Johnson!

by Sveet on May 13, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fast-track Bobby Havana from Charlotte.

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

No he could be just as bad as 09 PTB

There’s really not much room to be worse and certainly no reason to think he would be.

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by FreeZorilla on May 13, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a no brainer for me

Blalock is younger at 29 and even in limited duty last season mashed 29 HR

Also, as i told DRB at the time of the sign, Burrell had never done well as a DH in over the same 500+ ABs with the Phils

Last night when Maddon PH for him v a THP spoke volumes

He gone

by sternfan1 on May 13, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Furthermore, the money spent on Burrell is gone. It's not like you have a chance to recover it

So why make it worse by having to watch him day in, day out?

It’s like buying a couch and then hating it. Get rid of it. I did just that once. The money was gone and by having to lok at that ugly couch everyday made it double the pain

by sternfan1 on May 13, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Your heart-warming couch story reminds me of how much I hate having to listen to you bitch on a daily basis. You are the old, ratty couch.

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That was literally the worst move the Rays FO has made since the new regime

Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

since...

Http://rayspodcast.wordpress.com

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by Tommy Rancel on May 13, 2010 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Which I enjoyed by the way.

Also thanks for credit on bringing up the original discussion for this post. My fanpost looks like shit now.

And that makes me frown.

by Vin on May 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I pay a homeless man to read me your comments, I want to make sure I get them in the right context

Jim, the current reader, has been unemployed for 25 years and smells rancid, but he’s got a great feel for crazy old man and can really read your lines.

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That was literally the worst move the Rays FO has made since the new regime

Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

A revolving door at DH couldn't be much worse than Burrell

and I think that’s the worse case scenario here.

If Blalock tanks, who cares? DFA him and move on. If DanJo tanks, same thing. Cut and move on.

Its not like any of these guys are young and necessary to this organization’s future. I don’t see a good reason for not giving Blalock a chance right now.

by Vin on May 13, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

this

Get off your bandwagon

by gforce3 on May 13, 2010 8:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Who didn't quote Burrell's career line vs LHP before he came here?

It doesn’t matter much at this point in Blalock’s career as he’s been inconsistent in a variety of ways over the last several years.

by Vin on May 13, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

So?

Give me Blalock’s track record of staying healthy?

This is an easy game to play.

by Vin on May 13, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just cause you happened to be right doesn't mean your reasoning was.

Burrell probably didn’t just start sucking cause he’s only playing DH. If your reasoning was actually wrong, then it just means you made a lucky guess.

By saying this you are implying that if we payed Burrell in the field he would all of the sudden start hitting again. I highly doubt that many MLB teams, if any at all, would take that chance.

by nolesblogger on May 13, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That OPS drops from .846 career to .740 over last three years

Yes, he was injured for a nice portion of the past three years, and he could be 100% right now, but we can’t ignore the decline either.

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by Tommy Rancel on May 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tommy, what's the gamble? Burrell v Blaloock

If Blalock sucks, we owe him very little

The money on Burrell is already spent

If Blalock is actually back to career average, we made a nice play

by sternfan1 on May 13, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oooh that Rue McClanahan, I wish SF1 would tell me to, nm I'll just drop it.

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That was literally the worst move the Rays FO has made since the new regime

Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Betty White knocked it out-the-park on SNL.

"I think we should put this guy on blast and let all the guys around town know to make sure you don’t leave your GFs around Evan Longoria while he’s in town because he has no class or respect for other men."

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 13, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, and i think we all do, that there is little to lose here

I’m just saying people (not just on this site) need to ease their expectations of Blalock. Erik told me that one talk show host was saying it would be a giant mistake to let Blalock go and we would regret it if we didn.

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by Tommy Rancel on May 13, 2010 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

According to locker room sources...

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by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

They should blame Maddon

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by staplemaniac on May 13, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should try to convince Burrell to go on the DL

He owes us that much at least.

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by Sveet on May 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Hank Blalock was not brought in as AAA filler

He was brought in for MLB depth, notably as PTB insurance or in case of a Pena injury. If the Rays thought he was all washed up, they would not have brought him in. The question is, is a month enough to convince the Rays to cut bait on PTB? Normally I’g guess no, but given that Aybar is already facing the lefties, and pinch hit in a key spot vs a righty, I’m guessing a month was enough.

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by FreeZorilla on May 13, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

A month+2009

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, the Rays were chasing every LH DH around.

Blalock’s just the cheapest.

I guess if he fails they could always try Carlos Delgado and Cliff Floyd.

by R.J. Anderson on May 13, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Papa Fat Sacks could really help this team out, let's get Cliffy on the horn.

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Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beej Chaperone

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Hinske and Cliff Floyd!

Matt Joyce > Gabe (Insert last name here)

by raysfan1181 on May 13, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

But they already had DanJo signed

They thought Blalock was potentially still a better player. They could have worked with the status quo in lieu of being priced out on the other options.

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by FreeZorilla on May 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your point's still valid.

If it was Thome or Dye or whoever else they were going after I think they’d still be considered ML depth as opposed to AAA filler.

by Vin on May 13, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both?

Hank had just hit 20 something HRs and DanJo had just spent a year putting up mediocre numbers in Japan.

Its not a stretch to think Blalock was the better player from the get go.

by Vin on May 13, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Supposedly DanJo was the victim of racist Umpires

And his AAA numbers so far might support that claim, if he keeps it up.

by ChiBurbRaysFan on May 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

GD round eyes

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That was literally the worst move the Rays FO has made since the new regime

Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

How exactly is it that Sandra Lee isn't Korean?

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by Brickhaus on May 13, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yes, the Blalock hype is stupid.

If he hits righties like PtB is hitting them right now, we should all be happy. The major issue with Burrell is that his BABIP is unsustainable versus righties. So he’s not going to keep up a .360 wOBA or whatever versus them.

by R.J. Anderson on May 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Rays were chasing Damon, Branyan, Thome and Blalock

At this point, who’s your pick, with a mind on payroll please

by sternfan1 on May 13, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Thome?

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by FreeZorilla on May 13, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

When does his most recent cortizone shot wear off?

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Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Makes Blalock look like Cal Ripken at this point

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by FreeZorilla on May 13, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but his Yanks are still in 2nd, man!

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

JIMJAM

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon now Jimmers we're gonna hit this one to the moon.

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That was literally the worst move the Rays FO has made since the new regime

Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The deal Damon got clearly doesn't work for our payroll.

Has to be Thome or Branyan, and the latter had injury issues.

by R.J. Anderson on May 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Him and Byrnes are the foundation of my fantasy softball team.

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That was literally the worst move the Rays FO has made since the new regime

Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is the real DH solution not Blalock but Joyce?

Blalock is pressing because of his opt-out clause. And maybe he works out, maybe he doesn’t. But it sure seems like Joyce will be in the convo once he gets his arm right. Obviously maybe that doesn’t happen…but if he’s healthy, A Joyce/Aybar DH solution would look pretty good.

by raysfaninminnesota on May 13, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Pressing?

Usually pressing leads to failure. Joyce is another depth option for the LH DH spot.

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by FreeZorilla on May 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The real answer is already in the clubhouse.

RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.

by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Looks like Bruiser Brody in that pic (minus the hair)

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by PlayOnWords on May 13, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

HUSS HUSS HUSS

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by FreeZorilla on May 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a great pic, he looks like a mad man

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by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

He’s 5 foot nothin’, 100 and nothin’, and he has barely a speck of athletic ability. And he hung in there with the best Major League Baseball players in the land for 2 years. And he’s gonna walk outta here with a degree from the University of Life. In this life, he don’t have to prove nothin’ to nobody but himself. And after what he’s gone through, if he hasn’t done that by now, it ain’t gonna never happen. Now go on back.

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That was literally the worst move the Rays FO has made since the new regime

Go Gators!!
by matthan on May 11, 2010 1:26 AM EDT

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do it.

Really have nothing to lose, doubt PtB turns it around, and if need be go the option route and see how The Tank Hank does.

by SRQman on May 13, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Might as well just send Sonny down

starting pitching is doing well obviously…sonny would be going down anyways to make room for Howell in a couple weeks. This at least buys a little more time to make a decision.

by raysfaninminnesota on May 13, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I think giving Srod regular at bats would be better.

We have enough positional flexibility to get by without him.

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by staplemaniac on May 13, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

In AAA that is.

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by staplemaniac on May 13, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we?

Our 4th outfielder is Gabe Kapler.

by benderbrodriguez on May 13, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a hunch

PtBs “stiff neck” is gonna flare up this week and he’ll spend some time on the DL to make room for blaylock….here’s hoping anyway…

by LukeBaileysaStud on May 13, 2010 12:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

what is the guarantee Blalock is better?

There doesn’t need to be one. At least one of Blalock, Johnson or Shealy should be better. If Blalock doesn’t pan out, there are still two more bullets in the gun.

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by Brickhaus on May 13, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

This

Is the right thought process.

by Hatfield on May 13, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, and its not any more of a financial commitment either

If they were signing Blalock, I could see that argument a little more.

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by FreeZorilla on May 13, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone disagrees with bringing up Blalock

Where we possibly differ with AF & Co might be what piece we move (Burrell, Sonny, SRod) to get him here.

Fan opinion is obviously PtB.

by Hatfield on May 13, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think of all the beer sales

Every time PTB strikes out, fans at the game or watching tv head for beer relief.Him leaving may hurt sales.Other than this reason,I can’t think of one to keep him.

by Landlord on May 13, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

You should test this theory and do a study of stadium beer sales vs win percentage

by ChiBurbRaysFan on May 13, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rays would be on the hook for the difference between whatever value the new team signs him at and the value of the contract the Rays were paying him.

MLB contracts are guaranteed, so he gets paid regardless of whether he’s playing or not. If another team signs him, they only account for the part of the salary that they signed him for, and the Rays pay the rest. This type of thing usually happens a couple of times a season; the team that signs the released player usually only pays him a minimum contract.

by kericr on May 13, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Rays would still be on the hook, unless a team was dumb enough to claim him off waivers.

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by Brickhaus on May 13, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only Keri explained it better than me

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by Brickhaus on May 13, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I apologize for my ignorance

thanks for clearing that up

Get off your bandwagon

by gforce3 on May 13, 2010 8:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Career K% against RHP

Burrell 27.7%
Blalok 18.5%

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by Buc Wild on May 13, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

While there's no guarantee Blalock hits better at DH than Burrell does,

my question is, how risky of a gamble would that move be, and what would be the potential pay-off if it worked? We’ve now seen a full year of Burrell, plus another spring training and another month + of hitting. He has sucked non-stop. How many would be willing to bet he gets better? Since it seems his struggles have to do with age, injury and slower bat speed, I"d say those chances are vanishingly small. He is Ken Griffey Jr.

OTOH, what are the chances that Blalock puts things together, at least for a little while? Well, he’s struggled much himself over the past few years, but: he’s younger, hit 29 homeruns last season, and is performing very well in the minors right now. Talk about career numbers is important, but what potential upsides (like those I just listed) has Burrell shown us in well over a year of games?

Then think about costs. If you cut Burrell, for one you’ll make a lot of Rays fans happier. Another team may sign him to a low-paying contract, and at least you could recoup a tiny amount from the millions he’d be due in the first place. And you’d also have Aybar and Joyce as potential backups if Blalock blows it. Consider also the recent performances of Jaso and Brignac. Say what you will, but here are two more guys desperately clawing away at any hope of a future MLB career, and they are putting things together when there were many who doubted they could. Gives one hope that Blalock could show some of that, too.

Just looking at it from those angles, it seems like a reasonable move to me. The risk is low, the potential payoff is valuable, and there are pieces in place to mitigate the consequences if it fails.

by Zach Attack on May 13, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Play the Yanks out, Keyboard Cat!

They lost 6-0. Verlander shut them the hell down!

We’re up 2 games again.

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by Orlando Rays on May 13, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Sat Verlander on my fantasty team.

Welp

"I think we should put this guy on blast and let all the guys around town know to make sure you don’t leave your GFs around Evan Longoria while he’s in town because he has no class or respect for other men."

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 13, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then refer to the above picture.

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by Orlando Rays on May 13, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring up Blalock, dump PtB

Trade PtB, pick up 75% of his salary. Or DFA. Whatever.

Pat is a sunk cost and Blalock doesn’t make much.

So it should come down to performance. Who will be better against which hand?

Well Pat stinks vs lefties now. So that is a huge negative mark for him in the Blalock debate

So who will be better vs righties? I think the evidence is clearly in favor of Blalock, and at absolute worst they will be equal.

At the end of the day there is little to no downside risk for swapping Blalock and PtB while also having some upside.

Go Gators!!

by matthan on May 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Bahaha

Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!

by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 13, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay I actually looked it up

He’s playing 3rd almost exclusively at Durham. So he does give us a little position flexibility, in an end of the world scenario where Longo gets hurt.

by nomoredevil on May 13, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

We would play Briggy, Srod, Zobrist, or……. (Navi anyone?) before Blalock at third

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by gforce3 on May 13, 2010 8:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rec'd

For the simple answer.

Lame ass analysis is overrated.

by Vin on May 13, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha sorry...

i just didn’t think it was much of an issue, he strikes out too much… i had a roommate for a couple years who was a phillies fan, and we split the costs of an mlb.tv sub. needless to say, i saw a ton of phillies games featuring pat the bat, and he seemed to be king of strikeouts. strikeouts being about the least productive thing you can do as a baseball player, i could only shrug when i heard they were picking him up. glad to see him go, sorry

by ChrisInFla on May 16, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Having watched them both in person this season in Durham…Dan Johnson is actually a better overall hitter in my opinion.

by bullsrayz on May 13, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

SRod

What they will do is, send SRod down and promote Blalock . That will give them time to evaluate him, and they will say that SRod need at bats. I ‘hope’ that they will cut PTB, but I think it won’t happen soon.

by hans k on May 14, 2010 6:08 AM EDT reply actions  

FWIW

Before yesterday’s game Dan Johnson’s BABIP was .291, Blalock’s was .405 (which should be reason for concern, IMO).

DanJo’s BABIP vs RHP was .300
Blalocks was .364

So it looks like the numbers Johnson is putting up vs righties are a bit more real than Blalocks.

by Vin on May 14, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting. Didn't even look at BABIP.

Thanks for pointing that out.

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by Buc Wild on May 14, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

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