5/16 - Mariners @ Rays Postgame
by kericr on May 16, 2010 4:40 PM EDT
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Two out of three with 8 runs the entire series? I'll take it. Voat here.
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THIS IS OUR DIVISION
Well it kinda is
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 16, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It's yours, until you're dead, or I find someone better.
Now blogging on the OTHER sports in Orlando: http://www.sportcluborlando.com
by Orlando Rays on May 16, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad we couldn't be in a weaker division with money
I want a dynasty-like run for this team
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 16, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Fangraphs using the votes for anything?
Like a fan impact report, or something? Or are they just for fun/record keeping?
from Cubs Stats and Twitter @BradleyWoodrum
Appelman did a monthly wrap the first month.
Pretty sure it’s going to be a way to show the ‘real MVP’ through WPA/fan observation.
by R.J. Anderson on May 16, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Crawford, Lee, Garza for me
Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!
by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 16, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions
That's the crazy thing, he wasn't dominant by any stretch, but he still found a way to get it done
Nothing they hit was solid
Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!
by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 16, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Barkley >>>>>>>>>> Magic
Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!
by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 16, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions
This whole crew is awful compared to TNT
Stu Scott is not good.
Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!
by Andy Hellicksonstine on May 16, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
This team needs to start scoring runs. I know it was against Cleeff and I know we won anyway...but we won't be so lucky forever.
On the subway today, a man came up to me to start a conversation. He made small talk, a lonely man talking about the weather and other things. I tried to be pleasant and accommodating, but my head hurt from his banality. I almost didn't notice it had happened, but I suddenly threw up all over him. He was not pleased, and I couldn't stop laughing.
Well CLE comes in
Maybe that’ll help. They at least had a pile of runners today
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 16, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Have the Rays played
very well against Cleveland in the last few years?
Although I do recall a great 9th inning 6 run rally in ’08…
Niemann tomorrow = win
Unless Faust makes a deal with the devil. Hurr hurr hurr.
"Sooner or later, you're going to have #69 in your face." -Al Michaels
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On the subway today, a man came up to me to start a conversation. He made small talk, a lonely man talking about the weather and other things. I tried to be pleasant and accommodating, but my head hurt from his banality. I almost didn't notice it had happened, but I suddenly threw up all over him. He was not pleased, and I couldn't stop laughing.
Baseball Prospectus did a study where it was found that defense is only worth 5% of baseball performance.
The Mariners had one of the worst performing offenses of last year (and one of the best defenses), and instead of fixing that, they doubled down on their game plan because they thought Cliff Lee + the cavernous Safeco field would make up for it. They are rolling with a DH platoon and a 1B that are putting up numbers that are woefully below par for important offensive positions.
Pitching-independent defense.
It’s in BP’s “Baseball Between the Numbers.”
I think Tango found that pitching is 35% of run prevention and defense is 25%.
by R.J. Anderson on May 16, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Defense as in: Positional players making plays.
If that wasn’t obvious from the “pitching” part/
by R.J. Anderson on May 16, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I don't know who's the more accurate b/w those two
But it would still be clear that fielding is much less important than either pitching or hitting. And it just seems wrong to me to build a team around projected defensive awesomeness. Especially considering the year-to-year variations in numbers like UZR…
BABIP, HR/FB%, and countless over stats have high fluctuations too.
Teams have better defensive data, including scouting reports, than we do.
As for BPro v. Tango, why would you trust BPro when their defensive data was never based on play-by-play data until recently?
That number is far, far higher than 5%, just on an intuitive basis.
by R.J. Anderson on May 16, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
But still only a 4 game lead on the wild card :-/
Where the hell did the Blue Jays come from?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I've seen the Jays as having some good pitching talent
for a few years…and some of it is still on the shelf – read today that Jesse Litsch is just now getting to Dunedin for a rehab stint.
I just wonder when father time creeps up on te yank-eeze
They have a terrible track record against the ALE
which is why they can’t keep it up
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 16, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Every year for a long time it is the same damn thing...... In March, April and May, this could be Toronto's year
Then comes the rest of the season.
Considering they're already 2-7 vs Rays&Sox
Not exactly a vote of confidence for that team, especially w/o Halladay & a lineup that’s so over-performing, they’re gonna hit pavement hard.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 16, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I was at that game.
He pitched pretty well going 8 full innings. He lost 3-2 as a result of a 3 run home run. Otherwise he was around the plate all day and threw a full repertoire of pitches, hitting 88-90 regularly with the fast ball. He did allow quite a few hard line drives that were caught at or near the warning track, but seemed to have a good rhythm on the mound and appeared stronger in the later innings.
Also, an obscure jazz reference
Thebullpen usage was based on Dave Brubeck’s “Blue Rondo a la Turk”…
The rhythm of that tune is 2-2-2-3…look at the IP of the relievers. I’m not sure that Maddon had that in mind, but I think he’d get the reference.
We got a 2-game lead on the Yankees? Whew we can relax now...
but the downside to having the Yanks lose? It means the Twins won. Gotta start thinking about October…
Was it that our team had so many high-scoring games in April (average was, what, 6 runs?) that it seems like May is looking like a quieter month? What’s the overall runs average the Rays usually have and what’s the run average for the rest of the AL East?
Witty's 2010 Draft review is full of meaty goodness. What you mean, you're vegan?! Sigh. Just read it.
I'm just glad we are finding ways to win without scoring too many runs.
Offense will come back and hopefully take some pressure off the pitching staff.
I vote here for Crawford, Soriano, Garza
Witty's 2010 Draft review is full of meaty goodness. What you mean, you're vegan?! Sigh. Just read it.
Rodriguez, Kapler and Crawford
Where’s the love for the players who actually drove in runs?
man, Cliff Lee deserves better than that.
let’s offer up Los, Niemann, and Joyce for C Lee…. just see if they bite.
Well come July, I wouldnt mind giving up Matt Moore and TBeckham (or whatever pretty package) for Lee
Especially since he’ll net a 1st round pick when he leaves.
by Ben Tumbling on May 16, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not? Joyce is talented so, Niemann is almost certainly going to be traded after this season
and Los is obviously gone after this year. We’re really going for broke this year and if you can add 3 wins to the current team without mortgaging the future, you’ve got to explore that option.
Tools Whore
this would be your classic lose-lose trade
1. At midseason, Lee is worth, what, ~1 win, tops, over the rest of the season above Niemann?
2. And the dropoff from Carlos to Blalock at 1B (and Blalock to …? Joe Dillon? at DH) is at least one win.
3. And the Mariners would probably like to get young players in return.
by AndrewTorrez on May 16, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm thinking playoffs.
i’m thinking swagger. Lee, Garza, Shields, Price in the playoffs. Wade can be a long-reliever. Hank will hit. Joyce and Niemann are young. [???]
trying really hard not to sweat the offense.
lefties…BABIP…yeah.
but.
RIP Andy Hellicksonstine. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, SBN, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at the OTTOTD. These young men gave their lives. And so would Andy. Andy, who loved trannies.
by PlayOnWords on May 16, 2010 7:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
How Does Gary Shelton have a job?
His bash of the DRO today in the paper is terrible. Look, no one is arguing that the Pat Burrel experiment worked out well, but he uses his space to completely bash the org.
He's doing his part to help get the team moved
With the lack of support argument. WHERE ARE YOU BUD
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 16, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Just noticed on ESPN
They have an insider story about BJ Upton ‘being on the hot seat.’ Since I’m not willing to pay ESPN to read their insider stories since I don’t read their magazine and half of that shit is horrible anyway, I was wondering if anybody had a chance to glance over it and if there’s anything to whatever they’re saying.
Jesus Didn't Tap.
There's about as much logic to that as
Hearing ESPN say, would CC be traded because Kazmir was traded last year-ignoring that Kazmir was expensive, broken, and netted a huge hall of talent.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 16, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
But he'd get hurt clicking on the webpage or something first =(
DJ, take more vitamins & buy duct tape
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 16, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I'd rather have Briggy and Rod man the middle infield
with Zobrist in RF.
Unless Joyce has an impeccably healthy and at least mildly productive rest of the season.
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