Rays Rally Late To Shock Blue Jays 7-5
It seemed like just another night in the Rays' two week long struggle. The team was down 5-0, a lead that seemed far to great to overcome give the anemic offense this team had shown recently. I was even settling in to write this recap before the final our was recorded, resigned to defeat. Then something crazy happened. The Rays started to hit. Take a look at how effective this team can be when it's at its best. I'm only highlighting the good plays here:
7th inning:
-Dioner Navarro singles(!)
-Reid Brignac doubles, scoring Navarro
-Carl Crawford singles to center, Brignac scores
-Crawford advances to 2nd on a passed ball and to 3rd on an Evan Longoria ground out.
-Carlos Pena singles him home.
9th:
-Crawford walks, steals 2nd and advances to third on a Kevin Gregg throwing error.
-Longoria walks
-John Jaso walked
-Ben Zobrist walks, plating a run
-Sean Rodriguez doubles to center, scoring three runs
The team will have other come from behind victories this season, but I think this one is going to feel pretty special all year. They were struggling. The fans and media were growing restless. The Yankees, Red Sox, and Blue Jays were starting to creep up in the standings. It vaugely felt like the first game after the All-Star break in 2008, where Ben Zobrist hit the huge go-ahead home run off A.J. Burnett and the Blue Jays that helped snap a seven game losing kid. Ironically, Jason Bartlett missed time due to injury that series as well. The team could go out and play horribly tomorrow, but that won't change how much getting a win like this means.
The win comes behind Jeff Niemann's worst start of the season. The Big Nyquil allowed 5 runs in 6.1IP while striking out 4 and walking just one. If you just looked at his Pitch F/X data you wouldn't think Niemannpitched that poorly considering he generated nine swinging strikes on just 86 pitches. It was the long ball that would do him in, with Fred Lewis and John Buck hitting solo home runs while Adam Lindlaced a two run triple. It would be only the second time this season where Niemann failed to deliver a quality start.
More interesting than Niemann's pitching (and really, what's not?) was the couple of strange situations that developed on the offensive end of the spectrum. First, Joe Maddon abandoned the DH in the 6th inning. Yes, an American League Manager got rid of the DH position in the middle of a game. Maddon decided to pinch hit Hank Blalock for RF Gabe Kapler, thus moving DH Willy Aybar to 2B and Ben Zobristto the now departed RF position. I'm not sure how I feel about the move. While it didn't come back to haunt the Rays in any way, the team already has a short bench with Jason Bartlett being out, so it easily could have, especially since Hank Blalock was the pinch hitting option. I can't wait until Matt Joyce is called up. What did you all think?
The second incident involved Angel Hernandez andJoe West, to no ones surprise. With two men on and one out in the 9th inning, Carlos Pena requested time from Hernandez, the Home Plate Umpire. Pena figured since he had requested time long before the pitch was near ready to be thrown that it would be granted. He figured wrong, and Hernandez did not oblige him. With Pena having stepped out of the batter's box, the pitch was down the middle for a strike, ringing up the Rays' slugger. Blue Jays' closer Kevin Gregg wasn't even into his windup when Pena requested time, so it's not as if Pena requested in in haste. Pena argued the call briefly, but Joe Maddon cut him off before he could be ejected. However, Maddonwas a different story. After arguing withHernandez he was thrown out. Wanting to "make a stand", Maddon then ran out to give crew chief Joe West an ear full. You could see Maddon yelling "This is your fault!" as he argued withWest, with obvious reference to Joe West's mission to speed up the pace of baseball all on his own. I'm starting to wish that Manager's would leave West alone, mostly so he doesn't get the satisfaction of more attention being drawn him and his country music career.
The Rays made things interesting in the 9th, allowing Fred Lewis to reach on an error by Reid Brignac and then watching him speed home on a double by Vernon Wells that missed clearing the wall by a foot.
Two notes on the Blue Jays' offense:
-As RJ pointed out on Twitter last night, all the Jays do well offensively is hit home runs. They're team OBP is sub .320.
-Giants GM Brian Sabean looks like a bigger idiot with each passing day as Fred Lewis continues to tear up the AL East. At least the Giants have Pat Burrell coming up...
-They have 91 home runs already #ohmygodthatsalot
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Score was 7-6
CC scored from 2nd on Pena’s IFH, he was just running on the pitch to 3rd.
On a non-correction issue, this could be the game that the Rays needs to help spark the team. The Dbl Header in BOS & the 1-0 win off Greinke were spark wins.
PIZZA?!?
The wrong score?
You didn’t watch or listen but wrote a post game?
Erik doesnt watch games. He just looks at numbers.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jun 2, 2010 9:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Baseball is played on a calculator
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
I think I downloaded a baseball game for my TI-85 way back in the day.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
I went to sleep in the 7th and woke up with a severe cold.
FML
by Doug09 on Jun 2, 2010 3:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm glad I stuck with it to the end
After the Jays went up 5-0, I was right about to turn the TV off. Instead, I was treated to the most exciting Rays victory of this young season. I don’t know if this’ll spark another winning streak or not, but this was definitely a lift for for the hearts and minds of the players and fans alike. I was starting to wonder if they really were that bad, if that April tear was just an anomaly.
Now, if only we could get some quality umpiring for once…as much as I love MaddonRage, I’m starting to forget what it feels like to watch a game and not have to wonder what might have been if the strikes and balls had been called properly. Hernandez was better than West tonight, but it’s not like West set the bar high to begin with.
Niemann: 5-0-5. Mr. 2010 AL Cy Young. In 6 days, he’ll tie Shields’s franchise record for wins with a spotless record.
Maddon: "This is your fucking fault!"
Joe West: "My fault?"
Maddon: "Your fucking fault!"
MaddonRage: Sparking rallies since June 2010
Not with that level of consistency his last start he won't.
Seriously though, unless Price falls off the planet he’s got zero chance at winning the Cy Young.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
One of the more satisfying wins so far
I think most of us had this game in the loss column after the 5-0 start. Nice to see the team exercise patience in that 9th inning and take a ton of pitches instead of three hacks and sit down.
Also credit to Joe Maddon for fooling the Jays with the no DH trick. Little did they know it was just part of his master plan to get Sean Rodriguez in position to save the game on defense and then win the game with his bat.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jun 2, 2010 7:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Joe West's involvement was only as crew chief
The only reason Maddon was yelling at him was to complain about Angel Hernandez.
The interesting thing is that obviously Angel listened, because we got a much tighter strike zone after that. With the fair strike zone…I knew we could count on Kevin Gregg. :)
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Maddon was yelling at West because this all reverts back to him
Not Hernandez
by Erik Hahmann on Jun 2, 2010 8:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was my opinion that Hernandez knew he probably should have given Pena time rather than ring him up.
I thought Gregg had a few bad ‘make-up’ calls against him with the next batter (Zobot I believe). A few of those balls should have been strikes.
Therefore, I should be ignored completely, because I’m a blithering idiot.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
by kericr on Jun 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jun 2, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
He stopped giving that bullshit outside pitch it looks like.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
It's nights like this one that make me think that umps calling the strike zone isn't fixable after all, and that robots are indeed going to be necessary.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
Angel Hernandez and Joe West aren't calling Rays games every night.
Listen, I’m conceding ground. I’d hope that would be good enough to keep you away.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
They'll finish fourth.
That’s not struggling?
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 2, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If they play above 500 in the ALE, that is a 'non struggling' year
and i doubt when you said that you would have predicted their record to be plus 500
I didn't project them to lead the league in homers by a wide margin either.
I don’t think anyone sane would have.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 2, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't seem like they do much else.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
Good to know. This is why the naked eye is not always correct.
ZOMG NATE MCLOUTH IS A GOLD GLOVER HE DIVES ALL OVER THE FIELD!!!1
Therefore, I should be ignored completely, because I’m a blithering idiot.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
by kericr on Jun 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jun 2, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
It's why robot umps make so much sense
Its almost like the umpires made it their goal this year to build mainstream momentum to replace them.
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I'm not fully on the robot umps train just yet.
I do believe they shoud have to pass yearly physicals. Guys as fat and old as Joe West are not fit for duty, IMO. I’d love to see him bust his ass down the LF line to really get into position to make a correct call on a fair/foul play. He’s not able to do that from what I’ve seen.
Therefore, I should be ignored completely, because I’m a blithering idiot.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
by kericr on Jun 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jun 2, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe West should like robots
No one to grant time, enforceable consistent maximum time between pitches, accurate calls, no arguing balls and strikes.
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If there were robots Greg Maddux would have had no career. I hope you're happy.
Are you saying he should become fashionable or elitist or snarky or condescending? Is he supposed to adopt logical fallacies as his core technique of debate? Is he supposed to bleat religious proclamations and claim they are "proved" by statistics when they aren’t?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 2, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well said--the '95 WS was a complete sham
Maddux and Glavine were given 6" either side off the plate
Were given? No! They earned those 6"
Are you saying he should become fashionable or elitist or snarky or condescending? Is he supposed to adopt logical fallacies as his core technique of debate? Is he supposed to bleat religious proclamations and claim they are "proved" by statistics when they aren’t?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 2, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
97 was worse. Livan Hernandez, a rookie, was being given an extra 3 feet in game 5.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
Also, I don't remember who was behind the plate, but I know that Joe West was part of that crew in the 97 series.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
Let's speed up the WS
like it’s a game between the O’s and Royals in late SEP
You mean cancelled if it ends up rained out?
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
I think it was the late Eric Gregg
The same man who once had a cheeseburger left for him on second base as a joke, AND HE ATE IT.
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by Jamie DeVriend on Jun 2, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep--amd living in CLE for both of those, i know how i felt
I went to Game 5 of the ’95 WS. Albert Belle hit a HR off Maddux to RF by basically standing on the plate to rach the damn ball
The ones that really stick out for me were any Kevin Brown Yankee games
Are you saying he should become fashionable or elitist or snarky or condescending? Is he supposed to adopt logical fallacies as his core technique of debate? Is he supposed to bleat religious proclamations and claim they are "proved" by statistics when they aren’t?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 2, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
And speaking of those 97 Marlins, 2002 Robb Nenn
Are you saying he should become fashionable or elitist or snarky or condescending? Is he supposed to adopt logical fallacies as his core technique of debate? Is he supposed to bleat religious proclamations and claim they are "proved" by statistics when they aren’t?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 2, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
2008 Jamie Moyer
I don’t want to sound like sour grapes, but he was given strikes as long as it was in the same area code.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
For some reason soft tossing LHP, always get the benefit of the doubt
unless it’s Casey Fossum, maybe the guy i hated most in MLB at the time
See also:
Pettitte, Andy
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by The Man with One Black Shoe on Jun 2, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I've called Dibble's radio show and argued this point
He really believes a pitcher earns an expanded strike zone
Personally I think they 'do'. And I think that's wrong. Pitchers shouldn't 'earn' bad calls, they shouldn't exist.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
It shouldn't matter whether it's Jamie Moyer making his 1 billionth start or
a raw rookie. a strike is a strike is a strike
I'm so tired of announcers saying a pitcher has "earned" that strike
by what he’s done in the past
Should we just go ahead and call Pena’s near HR Monday a HR because he’s “earned” it by being a power hitter?
by sternfan1 on Jun 2, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is one of the best things you've ever said
Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jun 2, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Maddon
“I was kind of annoyed with the fact the timeout wasn’t permitted,” Maddon said. “I’m all for supporting league policy, but when it comes to speedup rules in those kinds of situations, I think they can basically be thrown in the trash can. It’s inappropriate. There’s no such thing as a speedup rule in that part of the game, and that was my argument.”
by BamaRama on Jun 2, 2010 5:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How bad was Hernandez on the Pena issue?

Neither Hernandez nor Buck are set and Pena is clearly calling for time. Joe West can kiss my ass
Nice. Frustrating that I can't even find a replay of this. It's harder for me to argue the point against if Gregg was in his windup. Clearly that's not the case.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
You should fanshot this.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
Done
Maybe my friends at MLBAM will leave it up because it is only 9 seconds and well within fair use
by Jason Collette on Jun 2, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Just make sure you didn't tag it with anything baseball related and you should be OK for as long as it's needed.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
compare that final at bat with the 1-2 pitch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIX5An7cJgs
Pena and Hernandez are in the exact same stages of their roles. Hernandez grants time in the first instance but not the second one. He needs to man up and admit he wasn’t paying attention at that moment because there is no way he should be changing behaviors within an at bat.
by Jason Collette on Jun 2, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep. That's about as terrible as it gets. Both teams should be livid at the botch job Hernandez did.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
The lack of consistency is my problem with it
I have no problem with umpires falling to call time if they do it consistently when the rules provide. The problem is that it is so random. Random not only within this crew, but also especially within all umpires.
I think batters call time entirely too often. They are so slow it has become a joke. Perhaps I’m a bit biased from being a former pitcher, but hitters shouldn’t be able to run around the box adjusting their gloves and jock after each pitch and then calling time a zillion times in an at bat. At some point a line should be drawn.
Unfortunately no matter what there will be quite a bit of judgment involved, but I at least want it to be consistent. As long as the pitcher is not taking an unreasonable amount of time to deliver and the batter does not have some sort of circumstance that makes him ‘uncomfortable’ (say an untied shoe) then time should not be granted. Of course the second part that I mentioned is full of judgment, so just limit that section to one time per game. There is absolutely no reason for a batter to be calling time twice in an at bat, heck you see Pena call time twice on the same pitch all the time. That shouldn’t be allowed.
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This isn't Joe West's fault
The one running the show in any given game is the one at home plate. Put this all on Angel Hernandez
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 2, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
This was a tremendous comeback for the Rays
I realize that it’s a 160+ game season and we’re not quite 1/3 of the way, but this felt like a big momentum shift.
Just got swept by Boston, about to lose a series to the Jays (still might but we avoid the sweep), Yankees creeping up… things could have gotten bad in a hurry.
"I can't wait until Matt Joyce is called up. What did you all think?"
I think Dan Johnson would be much more beneficial. He is now hitting, could play 1B, and while he would have to be added to the 40 roster (Howell to 60 day DL?) he appears capable of producing immediately. Joyce may not be fully healthy and is not hitting at 3A.
Dan Johnson cannot play outfield, and more then likely is just feasting on AAA fastballs.
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