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Jason Bartlett To DL; Kelly Shoppach To Return

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After a few days of playing the guessing game, the Rays have decided to place shortstop Jason Bartlett on the 15-day DL. While some of us hoped for Matt Joyce in his place, we will see the return of Kelly Shoppach. Joyce would have been nice, but Shoppach's power is a welcomed presence on the team.

Carrying three catchers is not a great use of roster space, but the Rays employ enough flexible players to sustain the hit for a few weeks. This is pure speculation, but the Rays could use the DH spot as a way to juggle the three backstops. In recent days, Hank Blalock has been working out in right field. It wouldn't surprise me if we see Blalock in right field with Ben Zobrist and Reid Brignac as the middle infield vs. right handed pitching a few times. I'm not saying that's a good idea, but wouldn't be shocked if we did.

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Wow, that was a quick rehab for Kelly

I wonder just where Joyce’s arm strength is. Hopefully this is a precursor to a Navarro trade, though I suspect the market is less than zero. In any event, I’m not sure I like the idea of Shoppach behind the dish vs RHP regularly with Jaso’s emergence. If my choices are Joyce RF, Jaso C, and Blalock DH vs. Blalock RF, Shoppach C, Jaso DH, I take the first set without blinking.

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 3, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Shoppach for DH?

Like you said, it was a quick rehab. They could help ease him in and give him some ABs at DH instead of throwing him behind the plate right away.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Jun 3, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joyce missed a bunch of ST

Maybe they want him to get more time to make up the 2 months of missed baseball.

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Jun 3, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry if I'm missing something, but...

Wouldn’t Jaso be behind the plate vs RHP, with Shoppach catching against LHP? As for Joyce vs Blalock..I’d keep Blalock for infield depth., as Longo could play SS if needed, and Blalock has played some 2B in the past, though a minimal amount, it wouldn’t be ideal, but it would be better than Aybar playing in the field.

At this point though, I’d like to see Pena sit for a week or two, with Blalock getting some AB’s.

by Blue or CONKZILLA on Jun 4, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they should trade him this offseason

while he still has value, get prospects, cut payroll, use Briggy

Rays/Lightning/USF Bulls/Steelers

by SportsRoadhouse on Jun 3, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing against Barty, but I'd be surprised if they don't.

It makes sense, especially with how expensive he’ll be. Then again, I thought the same thing this year.

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by Steve Slowinski on Jun 3, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's pretty much a lock they'll trade him in 2011

I think the reason they kept him this year was that we’re a better team with him starting 2010 than without, this was before Briggy had things starting to click.

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Jun 3, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Briggy was pretty good last year though

but Bartlett’s outlier of a season overshadowed it

R.I.P. Scott Kazmir 2005-2008

by raysfan81 on Jun 4, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

R.I.P. Scott Kazmir 2005-2008

by raysfan81 on Jun 4, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I maintain they couldn't call anyone up..

because the guys didn’t have their passports with them on the road trip to Scranton. Playing a man short really sucked.

Blalock in right field would be ugly given that his throwing arm is barely LF adequate these days

by Jason Collette on Jun 3, 2010 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Tomorrow afternoon will be dedicated to the draft.

I took the Friedman approach and let R.Glass take the role of R.J. Harrison as our scouting director/draft go-to-guy.

Then we’re recording the podcast with former scout Frankie Piliere on Saturday. That should be posted early Monday aka Draft Day.

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by Tommy Rancel on Jun 3, 2010 9:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

woo, sounds like fun

Rays have a pile of picks & I am interested in what they’ll take

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Jun 3, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

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by Tommy Rancel on Jun 3, 2010 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Since Blalock and Sonny were working out in RF

It is likely we’ll see Blalock at sometime, even though it might be a disaster..Rather see Zobrist stay in right, Puffy at 2nd, Blalock/Pena-1st/DH, Jaso/Shop-DH/Catcher…Maddon will be Maddon…

Rays/Lightning/USF Bulls/Steelers

by SportsRoadhouse on Jun 3, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Now the question becomes

Do we get rid of Navarro when Barty comes back or do we get rid of him when we are ready to bring up Joyce?

I will not entertain the idea of sending Jaso down.

Next move should be Navarro down to AAA (he has an option right?) Joyce to bigs
Barty off DL, Kapler waived?

Good time to mention, I miss JP :(

For the draft, our first rounders, can we and should we go after Nick Castellanos and Bryce Brentz?

Man, I love both

Well Rafael Soriano and Joquain Benoit is very nice also.

by joeybw on Jun 3, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Does not matter if Navarro has a option left or not.

Who in their right mind would claim him?

How can you have any pudding if you haven`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...

by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Jun 3, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are at least 3 catchers in the organization that are better defensive C than Navarro.

They could not possibly be much worse hitters than him.

How can you have any pudding if you haven`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...

by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Jun 3, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

and one of them is the Bull Pen Coach.

by Blue or CONKZILLA on Jun 4, 2010 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they waive Kapler

and Joyce gets hurt again..then what? Hey I like Kapler either, but what happens if Joyce gets hurt..on that note, Gabe Gross hitting .313..jeesh, but he should be at his under Mendoza by the end of the year as he did here..

Rays/Lightning/USF Bulls/Steelers

by SportsRoadhouse on Jun 3, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Ruggiano doing anything

these days? I’m too lazy to pull up his numbers..I’d love to see Kapler gone, but if they don’t have any depth that is worth anything, they will never do it..Too bad Joyce can’t stay healthy, but at some point the Rays have to take a chance, Kapler isn’t getting anything accomplished

Rays/Lightning/USF Bulls/Steelers

by SportsRoadhouse on Jun 3, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ruggiano stole 4 bases in a single game the other night

has a .284/.358/.412 line right now

MLE’s would be .245/.309/.344 – which is still better than Kapler

by Jason Collette on Jun 3, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then

Let’s DO IT!!!

Rays/Lightning/USF Bulls/Steelers

by SportsRoadhouse on Jun 3, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would agree about cutting Kapler

He has only 3XBHs, that’s not very helpful

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Jun 3, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe at the trade deadline, they dump him and make a minor move for a

better hitting OF, if there is any available

Rays/Lightning/USF Bulls/Steelers

by SportsRoadhouse on Jun 3, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Retired.

EVERYONE HIT FOR HOMERS! YOU TOO PENA! Every hit should be a homer! EVEN THE BUNT ATTEMPTS!

by P Brady on Jun 3, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit!

The unsung hero of ’08

by Hatfield on Jun 4, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Play Sean Rodriguez every day for 10 games

Shoppach can mash LHP

The Kapler era needs to end

by sternfan1 on Jun 3, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Some guys are much better when they play everyday

It looks like Srod is that type of player

Free Dan Johnson!

by Sveet on Jun 3, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

His problem was contact

when he makes contact, then it’s all weeeeeeee runz!

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Jun 3, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like B33j

Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jun 3, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bartlett for Montgomery.

KC is that dumb, right?

EVERYONE HIT FOR HOMERS! YOU TOO PENA! Every hit should be a homer! EVEN THE BUNT ATTEMPTS!

by P Brady on Jun 3, 2010 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Honestly, They are

And they have Yuni playing SS right now

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Jun 3, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit

I did that trade on the Show a few weeks ago in my second season with the Rays.

by raysrule44 on Jun 3, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Unless they want Shoppach to DH vs LHP (knee health), but that renders Aybar next to useless.

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 4, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has options

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 4, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then I really don't understand this move

Are you sure though? I know the numbers say he does, but I thought there was there was a chance they might have been waived in his last contract. Has anyone confirmed that he has options?

Free Dan Johnson!

by Sveet on Jun 4, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Topkin confirmed

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 4, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just for information,

since May 1, Navarro has had 49 ABs and 56 PAs. In that stretch he has hit .265 and has an OBP of .357. Of course it proves nothing; in fact it isn’t even evidence for anything. But it is possible that the Rays are seeing something in his approach at the plate that suggests he may maintain the improvement.

Also, in that stretch, he has gotten to the plate in 15 games and gotten at least 1 hit in 11 of them. In one of the other 4 he received 2 walks. Only 3 have gone for extra bases, all doubles, but otherwise he has been a decent offensive player recently.

by bobr on Jun 4, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I had the same thought

His process is better as evidenced by his wakl rate. When I checked his May wOBA, it was still in the .280’s though. Its hard to argue he is better vs LHP than Shoppach, and Jaso is clearly better vs. RHP. He’s not useless, but maybe they are hoping to get something in return for him by keeping him in the majors. There’s also the issue of Shoppach catching back-to-back days in the event of two lefties.

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 4, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Before the season my ridiculous prediction was that Navi would walk 10% of the time and be better off for it

He’s at 9.3% (not sure if that factors in all his bunts), but it seems like he hasn’t been all that better. I mean at least he’s finding a way to get on, but even when he hits a double, it’s not a gapper that gets to the wall or anything.

Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jun 4, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Navi's Audition

Could Navi be actually auditioning here in front of Ranger execs for a potential trade? Could be a good reason to keep him up here for this series.

by bvert38 on Jun 4, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope Burrell does well in SF

its really too bad it didn’t work out

R.I.P. Scott Kazmir 2005-2008

by raysfan81 on Jun 4, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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