Tampa Bay Rays Select Drew Vettleson, OF, 42nd Overall In 2010 Draft; Plus Other Draft Notes
The Rays wrap up Day 1 with another high school bat with tremendous upside.
From MLBBonusBaby:
Drew Vettleson Position: OF School: Central Kitsap HS State: WA Height: 6’1’’ Weight: 185
Bats: L Throws: R Birth Date: 7/19/91 Seiler Rating: 1C3 Commitment: Oregon State
Drew Vettleson is a solid high school outfielder from Central Kitsap High School in Silverdale, Washington, which is just outside of Seattle. Vettleson joins forces with Bishop Blanchet’s Josh Sale to make one of the best outfield duos for offensive potential in states across the country this spring. Even more interesting is that Vettleson is actually an ambidextrous pitcher, throwing quality stuff from both the right and left side. However, he’s much more of a prospect with the bat, and has developed into one of the top corner outfielders available in this draft class. His combination of power, hitting ability, and arm strength make him a potential starting right fielder at the next level. His hit tool is above-average, and when combined with plus raw power, he’s a legitimate hitting threat. He’s quite selective at the plate, and like Sale, he’s quite an advanced hitter for his age, which is exceptional considering their geography. Vettleson is a below-average runner, though, and he’s limited to an outfield corner, where he has fringe-average range. His arm is above-average to plus, though, so he has some defensive value. All this being said, he’s an unpredictable prospect, as he’s toolsy in some areas but quite pedestrian in others. He can hit, but his value otherwise is quite up in the air. He could sneak up as high as the supplemental first round to a team that really loves his bat, but he fits better in the second or third rounds, where he should sign for something close to slot money.
Here's the analysis on Vettleson from ESPN's Keith Law and Jason Churchill:
Vettleson has earned some notice for his switch-pitching, but he’s a pro prospect as an outfielder who can hit and profiles well in right. He starts his hands way back behind his torso and he can bar out that lead arm, but he does generate great bat speed and had no trouble with average fastballs at last year’s Area Code Games.
He’s very stable through his swing with some loft that should produce average power. He’s a fringe-average runner who has a plus arm and should have no trouble handling right field, and his potential for average power with a high batting average makes him a solid pick in the second to third rounds.
In addition to Tommy's posts yesterday, here is the Law/Churchill analysis of Josh Sale:
Sale uses his thick lower half and plus bat speed to generate big-time power. It's that same build, however, that may prevent him from offering anything more than average defensive value, though he does a good job tracking fly balls and offers enough arm strength to profile in a corner outfield spot.
His swing isn't exactly clean and he?ll get out in front on occasion, but he's so strong and quick to the ball that he makes up for busy hands at the start of his swing path.
Sale may end up at first base down the road, but makes enough contact to mix with the raw power to profile anywhere on the diamond. To top it off, Sale possesses tremendous work ethic and good baseball makeup.
And Justin O'Conner:
O'Conner came into his senior year as a top prospect because he was intriguing, but didn't have a clear position or definite projection with the bat. However, since his shift to catching he's established himself as a likely first-round pick.
He has good bat speed and is very balanced and strong through the swing, but doesn't use his lower half much and may not see the power carry over to wood until he addresses that; he can get a little too linear, but I've also seen his back leg collapse when he goes with a more traditional power swing.
He's got a plus arm with a lightning-quick release, not quite effortless but really just too easy for a guy with limited catching experience, and his receiving is solid. The fact that he now plays a premium position makes questions about his bat a little less concerning, and if he does fulfill his offensive potential he could be a star because of where he now plays.
On the flip side we'll give credit to the excellent scouting process that went in to making these picks
First off, credit goes out to Rays' Scouting Director R.J. Harrison for putting together one of the best units in the business. While Andrew Friedman receives a lot of the credit - and rightfully so - for the team's success, Harrison has final say in the War Room. He's been with the organization since its inception and is overseeing his fifth draft.
The scout that had a big hand in the picks of Sale and Vettleson is Washington area representative Paul Kirsch. I'd imagine he's had a very busy year. Kirsch has been the signing scout for players such as Jason Hammel, Jeff Ridgeway, Jared Sandberg, Dustin Biell, and Ty Morrison.
The selection of Justin O'Conner was no doubt influenced by Indiana scout James Bonnici. He's the man who brought us Andy Sonnanstine and Nevin Ashley.
Tim Huff and Jeff Cornell are the Rays' national crosscheckers, with Ken Stauffer assuming the duties in the Midwest, Fred Repke on the West coast and Kevin Elfering on the East coast. Repke has been especially valuable to the organization. He has an impressive track record dating back to his Expos days and has been leaned on heavily. His notable Tampa Bay signings include James Shields, Evan Longoria, and Jake McGee. Another impressive sheet is that of Elfering, who can boast the signings Elijah Dukes, Wade Davis, Shawn Riggans, and Doug Waechter.
As MLB Drafts go, today was about as exciting as they come. I can't wait to see which direction the Rays head with they're three remaining picks.
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I don't want to start a thing here, but I notice a lot of these write-ups say that the players selected will sign at or close to slot money.
Could this mean the Rays are going to draft someone later that might have fallen due to signability and throw a shitload of money (relatively) at him? Are there any guys like this left?
Are you saying he should become fashionable or elitist or snarky or condescending? Is he supposed to adopt logical fallacies as his core technique of debate? Is he supposed to bleat religious proclamations and claim they are "proved" by statistics when they aren’t?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 8, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions
Allie.
But really, 5 slot guys in the top 79 might equal 3 above slot guys, so I’m not sure the Rays will be in the market for guys who fall.
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by Imperialism32 on Jun 8, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty psyched about the 3 names we have so far. Crazy to think that KLAW had O'Conner going a couple picks before our 17 then we get him at 31.
Time will tell, but it’s hard to argue the process here.
Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jun 8, 2010 1:00 AM EDT reply actions
2 OFs on Day 1? Is this an indication that CC might not be around next year?
Maddon: "This is your fucking fault!"
Joe West: "My fault?"
Maddon: "Your fucking fault!"
MaddonRage: Sparking rallies since June 2010
Maybe
but it’s probably a signal to Kang that he won’t always be enjoying those Evian showers in the low minors.
by CubFanRaysaddict on Jun 8, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course not
But it’s a sign that they’ll be taking others’ spots, which means someone is moving up or out
Maddon: "This is your fucking fault!"
Joe West: "My fault?"
Maddon: "Your fucking fault!"
MaddonRage: Sparking rallies since June 2010
There are plenty of spots to take
Guys like Chris Murrill should be worried long before guys like anyone who’s even close to the majors. And a number of guys usually get released every year within a week or so of the draft.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Dammit. No. It's not any indication of what they feel about any of the players in ths system.
Why don’t people get this?
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 8, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
So, should we just move to Vegas now?
so we are kinda established / have a nice stadium by the time Bryce hits FA? get a few casino owners into the game / Celine Dion so we can afford his $40mil/season price tag in his prime.
Seiler
Tampa Bay – Up (Josh Sale, Justin O’Conner, Drew Vettleson)
Best draft of any team so far.
I don't have a Sig!
Also:
Harrison:
On Sale:
“Sale is a corner outfielder with tremendous power. He’s a guy we think has the chance to be a middle of the lineup type bat."
"The kid has a tremendous work ethic. We think he’s an advanced high school kid as far as maturity level and the ability to come into professional baseball and not be overwhelmed by the rigors of professional baseball."
Said Friedman: "He’s got an uncanny feel for the mechanics of his swing, what goes into being a successful hitter. With most high school guys that we draft, it’s a process for us at the player development side to educate them on that and he’s coming in extremely advanced on that front…
“We feel very good about the fact that he’ll be able to reach his max potential, because of who he is, the makeup the work ethic and are thrilled to get him where we did. "
On O’Conner:
“O’Conner is essentially a high school shortstop, who started catching this year, a kid with a plus arm plus raw power and we think he’s going to be able to make that transition to catcher.
On Vettleson:
“Vettleson is another corner high school outfielder…a kid we scouted pretty good the last year and just one of those kids that at every event we saw him, you walk away and go, ‘Boy that guy can really hit.’”
I don't have a Sig!
From Baseball America this morning
This is classic, they HAVE to sign this guy:
Northwest Hitters Stay Together
The Rays used two of their top three picks on the two best hitters in the Northwest, both high school hitters from Washington. They selected outfielder Josh Sale at No. 17 and then outfielder Drew Vettleson as the 42nd overall pick in the supplemental first round.
“It feels great,” Sale said. “To say the least, it’s been an emotional day. I’m as happy as can be right now.”
Sale said he had a small family get-together to watch the event. He talked about hearing his name called as a first-rounder.
“I heard my first name and stood up, then I heard the mispronunciation of my last name and I gave a little fist pump, ran out the door and ran up the block, down the block and back up the block again. I was ecstatic, to say the least.”
If they both sign, the Northwest’s best two players could be hitting back-to-back.
“It was actually amazing,” Sale said. “As soon as I heard his name called, I pointed at the screen and bolted out the front door to run up and down the street again!”
Tough love is the best kind
anyone can gush when the #1 pick in his third pro season, breaks the Mendoza line, as if he won a MVP
anyone can gush when the #1 pick in his third pro season, breaks the Mendoza line, as if he won a MVP
Isn’t the reverse true as well?
answer me this--if a 20th round pick was putting up Beckham's numbers, would anyone bother to watch?
The thing is if he was an IFA and he was putting up these numbers he may still be.
The fact is it isn’t the numbers that make the prospect. It’s the projection.
by rglass44 on Jun 8, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love this kid.
Imagine what he does when there is a walkoff hit.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jun 8, 2010 8:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Break his leg at home plate?
Too soon?
by ChiBurbRaysFan on Jun 8, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
According to Topkin
Sale and Vettleson sometimes are workout partners
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
That's fantastic.
Sale comes from a family of bodybuilders (both parents), so beyond being that taking incredible work ethic, it also means he’ll have a fantastic base of knowledge in both training and nutrition. Outside of being a fringy athlete, I love everything I’ve heard about Sale.
Tools Whore
Thought Sale's mother was a corrections officer, not a gym rat.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
Where we go from here:
Here’s Andy’s big board for the guys remaining:
14. Stetson Allie, RHP, St. Edward HS (OH)
19. Brandon Workman, RHP, Texas
21. Brett Eibner, RHP/OF, Arkansas
23. A.J. Cole, RHP, Oviedo HS (FL)
25. Austin Wilson, OF, Harvard-Westlake HS (CA)
27. Jesse Hahn, RHP, Virginia Tech
30. Chad Bettis, RHP, Texas Tech
31. Yordy Cabrera, SS, Lakeland HS (FL)
38. James Paxton, LHP, Grand Prairie AirHogs (TX)
40. Jedd Gyorko, SS, West Virginia
41. Ryan LaMarre, OF, Michigan
43. Austin Wates, OF, Virginia Tech
44. Dan Klein, RHP, UCLA
45. Reggie Golden, OF, Wetumpka HS (AL)
46. Jarrett Parker, OF, Virginia
47. Sammy Solis, LHP, San Diego
49. Ryne Stanek, RHP, Blue Valley HS (KS)
51. Kevin Gausman, RHP, Grandview HS (CO)
53. Jacob Petricka, RHP, Indiana State
54. Hunter Morris, 1B, Auburn
55. Micah Gibbs, C, LSU
57. Robbie Aviles, RHP, Suffern HS (NY) – *Before Injury
59. A.J. Vanegas, RHP, Redwood Christian HS (CA)
61. Derek Dietrich, SS, Georgia Tech
62. Joe Leonard, 3B, Pittsburgh
63. Griffin Murphy, LHP, Redlands East Valley HS (CA)
65. Garin Cecchini, SS, Barbe HS (LA)
66. Kris Bryant, 3B, Bonanza HS (NV)
67. Jordan Swagerty, RHP, Arizona State
68. Todd Cunningham, OF, Jacksonville State
70. Burch Smith, RHP, Howard JC (TX)
71. Kyle Blair, RHP, San Diego
72. Dave Filak, RHP SUNY Oneonta
73. Tony Wolters, SS, Rancho Buena Vista HS (CA)
74. DeAndre Smelter, RHP, Tattnall Square Academy (GA)
75. Addison Reed, RHP, San Diego State
Allie, Wilson, Cabrera, Golden, or Eibner please with the next 3 picks.
What red flag?
Are you saying he should become fashionable or elitist or snarky or condescending? Is he supposed to adopt logical fallacies as his core technique of debate? Is he supposed to bleat religious proclamations and claim they are "proved" by statistics when they aren’t?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 8, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
DRB User "EminenceFront" confirmed a thirdhand report that Allie used HGH.
Some girl that EF knows corroborated the story via various high school chatter.
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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Then it must be true.
raysprospects.com is sooo much better then this site. to many haters with horrible sense and knowledge of baseball on draysbay.com.
by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
What is your point with all of this?
Where a player is drafted has nothing to do with his talent. Draft slot only matters in evaluating scouting personnel…maybe.
Guys like DeShields, Culver, Simpson, were all drafted well ahead of where they should’ve gone. What does that mean for their true prospects as a major leaguer? Dick and all.
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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
i care less if and when he gets drafted
but when i see a kid rated as high as him, and MLB network has cameras waiting for his post draft interview, you need to wonder what caused his fall
The command/control issue has been stated a long time ago.
There is little mystery. Especially because teams like the Royals and Astros and Cubs and Yankees keep doing wacky things with their picks.
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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
read the scouting report on Pomeranz and his command--he went #5
his BB/9 has gone from about 1.5 to over 5 during the course of the season
Is your stat supporting the line in the header?
Because thats a control issue, not a command issue.
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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Control is more learned and malleable.
Command is instinct and, frankly, that magical quality that allows a man to throw a mid-90s heater with an explosive finish.
raysprospects.com is sooo much better then this site. to many haters with horrible sense and knowledge of baseball on draysbay.com.
by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
To be fair, my cousin also said that he'd be great for whoever drafted him.
I’m not saying it’s fact but to take it FWIW.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Jun 8, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Caught in highschool? So he's got no hope of being good enough to hide the HGH in the pros. Not someone we want.
Are you saying he should become fashionable or elitist or snarky or condescending? Is he supposed to adopt logical fallacies as his core technique of debate? Is he supposed to bleat religious proclamations and claim they are "proved" by statistics when they aren’t?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 8, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't even caught. It's a RUMOR.
raysprospects.com is sooo much better then this site. to many haters with horrible sense and knowledge of baseball on draysbay.com.
by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
The fact that it's speculated about shows me is doesn't have the 6th tool (hiding PED use from the league)
His masking agents are 20 on the 20-80 scale
Are you saying he should become fashionable or elitist or snarky or condescending? Is he supposed to adopt logical fallacies as his core technique of debate? Is he supposed to bleat religious proclamations and claim they are "proved" by statistics when they aren’t?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 8, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
More likely the fact that he's struggled with command and control.
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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
The 2nd round hasn't started yet.
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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Because EF's teenage cousin is the source.
Hold on a sec…I think some breaking news is emerging from this room:

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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Julie better not fucking be late with that tennis story.
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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Ashley's 10 cent prom piece is going to bring down governments
Are you saying he should become fashionable or elitist or snarky or condescending? Is he supposed to adopt logical fallacies as his core technique of debate? Is he supposed to bleat religious proclamations and claim they are "proved" by statistics when they aren’t?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 8, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe this is a question more for daveh, but is there any doubt that that girl is a future lesbian?
Hoops shirt, bossing people around, and look at her, just look at her.
Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jun 8, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Not if I have anything to do with it
Vroom vroom party starter
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by Imperialism32 on Jun 8, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
From Piliere this morning
So where was Stetson Allie on Day 1? Nowhere to be found, that’s where. Allie might have the best pure arm in the prep class, but his demands have caused him to slip. He is reportedly asking for upward of $3 million. At this point, he may slide into the later picks on Day 2 and could be picked by a big-market club that is willing to pay him what he wants.
So, we have:
Heckuva whip, control/command questions, money demands.
Still think its the HGH?
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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
oh and btw, did Boras's dollar demands for Strasburg shy WAS off?
Yes he was a college pick, but he still had options
HAHAHA
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by Still the Devil Rays on May 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
guys, on the black market HGH is ridiculously expensive....
i seriously doubt any high school kid would be able to afford HGH and the other stuff you have to take with it unless a parent is helping finance which is even more unlikely.
by Boss Hog Ray Zorback on Jun 8, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Still hGH is like 10K a cycle and it also has been shown to
not increase strength. It increases endurance, but not strength.
Tools Whore
No LeVon on that list.
LOL
Therefore, I should be ignored completely, because I’m a blithering idiot.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
by kericr on Jun 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jun 8, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
That they underestimated the LT effects of his injury.
And that it’s probably a good thing they didn’t overpay him. It’s looking like O’Connor>LeVon
Can't fault him too much, his dad thought they had a gentleman's agreement on one figure and it turned out to not be the case
Moral of the story, don’t let your dad negotiate the next decade of your life.
Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jun 8, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
We don't even know if that's true.
I really doubt the Ray’s told him they would pay him something and then lowballed him. Maybe I’m just a homer, but that doesn’t seem to be the Ray’s MO
Free Dan Johnson!
I don't want to go there, but it's not like they are good Christians, so when it comes to money...
Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy...Surly!
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jun 8, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
as a huge Razorback fan, i have watched eibner the past 3 years...
and he finally put it all together this year. he has the talent to pitch or hit at the major league level so he would be a safe pick because he is also likely to sign. i would pull a Josh Sale and run up and down the block if we nabbed eibner this late in the draft
by Boss Hog Ray Zorback on Jun 8, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Sickles:
Tampa Bay – Up
Three highly-impressive high school bats load up the lower levels of the system quite nicely.
I usually have no hope for Cardnial prospects as long as LaRussa is around.
Therefore, I should be ignored completely, because I’m a blithering idiot.
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."
by kericr on Jun 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jun 8, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Do all my fellow famous Alums have to be terrible human beings?
When John Jaso strikes out twice in a game, he becomes Kohn Kaso, which is Spanish for "with cheese."

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