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Matt Garza & Co. Shutout Indians In Rays 4-0 Win; 3 Games Ahead of Boston

It has been a weird week for Matt Garza. He failed to see the fourth inning in Monday's start against the Red Sox after tossing 2.2 innings of shutout baseball. Because of that, he was available in relief on Wednesday against the same Boston team. With Rafael Soriano and Joaquin Benoit unavailable that night, Garza was called upon in the ninth inning and registered his first career save.

Just three days later, he rebounded quite nicely tossing six innings of shutout, one-hit ball against the Cleveland Indians en route to his 10th win of the season. Garza didn't have his struck out stuff - only two strikeouts - but did his best David Price impression on the evening.

Garza threw 40 fastballs in his first 47 pitches. And a total 69 heaters out of 88 pitches overall. Although the strikeouts and swinging strikes were not there, Garza had wonderful control. He threw 72% strikes and walked just one batter.

Star-divide

Because of the weird week of usage, Joe Maddon decided to end Garza's night after six innings. After what we saw in Friday's game with James Shields extended for a batter too much, and the subsequent usage of non-elite relief pitchers, Maddon used a few studs from the bullpen this evening. Grant Balfour worked a scoreless seventh inning. He was followed by Joaquin Benoit, who was perfect in the eight. Finally, non-stud, Lance Cormier worked a (eventful) scoreless ninth with a four-run lead to preserve the shutout - giving Rafael Soriano another day of rest*.

*Soriano was ready before the inning started. He's going to get rest over the next few days even if he pitches in the All-Star game. I know it wasn't a save situation, but Maddon is not Trey Hillman. He was warm already, use him. You only have him for a few more months anyway.

As for the Rays offense, it was more of the same. At times, it looked like the Rays would never score a run. This was highlighted by two groundball double plays off the bat of Evan Longoria with runners at first and second base. The team had base runners in each of their eight frames - leaving men stranded in each as well.

Meanwhile, when it mattered most, the offense provided just enough to get the win. The much maligned Gabe Kapler got the start in left field and came up with a big two-out, two RBI single in the fourth inning. Kapler's post-game interview was a thing of beauty as he avoided cliches of "turning the corner," or comparing the Rays of two months ago to the Rays of today. He even preached small sample sizes.

Kapler's bench mate, Willy Aybar added an RBI single of his own in the next inning. - scoring Longoria, who laced a two-out double off the low wall in left field. The Rays scored another two-out run in the eighth inning on a bloop RBI single off the bat of Jason Bartlett.

After playing some close, tense games lately, it was nice to bring one home with a soft landing. Couple that with a Red Sox loss and the Rays gain a 3 game lead on Boston.

Let's continue the strong finish to the first half.

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Lopez 8th inning grandslam.

Seattle leads 4-1.

Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.

by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jul 11, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

His slash line

.243/.273/.344

Joba r broked

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Jul 11, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lopez hits a grandslam defeating the Yankees 4-1.

With Boston and the Yankees losing, great night for the Rays.

by d.wig on Jul 11, 2010 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Kaz gave up 13ER including a grand slam to Rajai Davis...

whew, I love Puffy.

I don’t get the fascination people have with Joyce. Is it his mediocre play in Durham? Wowing people with his .295 avg? His mediocre power at age 26? Is it people just praying he’s good because our offense is so poor and we traded Edwin away for him?

by pudieron89 on Jul 11, 2010 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Angels got hosed on a bad call at HP earlier in the inning though.

I don’t get the fascination people have with Joyce. Is it his mediocre play in Durham? Wowing people with his .295 avg? His mediocre power at age 26? Is it people just praying he’s good because our offense is so poor and we traded Edwin away for him?

by pudieron89 on Jul 11, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't he go long against Garza?

And which Ray SP gave one up to Itsuris, who btw, went deep last night against Lee, 1st time since the HR v Rays

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

never said it did

but it seems even former rays aren’t exempt from the terrible umpiring calls at that position in particular

I don’t get the fascination people have with Joyce. Is it his mediocre play in Durham? Wowing people with his .295 avg? His mediocre power at age 26? Is it people just praying he’s good because our offense is so poor and we traded Edwin away for him?

by pudieron89 on Jul 11, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe Friedman and Sternberg STILL pleasure themselves to the thought of that trade

In my day lots of messy tissues over her

by sternfan1 on Jun 18, 2010 6:30 AM PDT

by IntrepidX on Jul 11, 2010 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are Garza and Upton about to kiss in that picture?

(Not that there’s anything wrong with that)

In my day lots of messy tissues over her

by sternfan1 on Jun 18, 2010 6:30 AM PDT

by IntrepidX on Jul 11, 2010 4:02 AM EDT reply actions  

haha I didn't see that at first, but it's definitely there

I don’t get the fascination people have with Joyce. Is it his mediocre play in Durham? Wowing people with his .295 avg? His mediocre power at age 26? Is it people just praying he’s good because our offense is so poor and we traded Edwin away for him?

by pudieron89 on Jul 11, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

My earlier prediction has a chance--Yankee loss today

and a Rays win we go into the Stadium next Friday 1 GB

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 7:41 AM EDT reply actions  

It's tought to see a 7-1 stretch that marks time...

I guess most expected the Yankees to be tough, however. And the most important issue is that the Rays are playing much better than they have.

As for Kazmir, whoa – what a fall. He nearly added a whole run to his ERA last night. No matter how flawed that stat, an ERA near 7 is never good…

by tampa_edski on Jul 11, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sciosca went downn a notch in my book. Kaz gives

up 8 ER in one inning and he allows him to go back out there and get shelled again. Obviously something’s wrong with Kaz and i don’t see what good Sciosca did him by allowing this massacre

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this bullshit or what?

Scioscia said he kept Kazmir in so long because he needed the innings from his starter.

After tomorrow, your bullpen can sit on their ass for four days

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a case of "Game over, let him wear himself out now"

The Angels were not about to come back from a 3 run deficit, much less an 8-run hole.

In my day lots of messy tissues over her

by sternfan1 on Jun 18, 2010 6:30 AM PDT

by IntrepidX on Jul 11, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not even close to being the point--you don't allow a SP especially

one who seems as fragile as Kaz to take that pounding. What good moving forward will it have done?

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of Lou Pinella leaving Seth McClung in the game in either '05 or '06 to give up like 11 runs

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "I am the cat and I am here to steal."

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 11, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Always good to shatter you starter's confidence when your rotation depth is shitty.

DON't FUCK WITH MY BLACK ASS
by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure that was Jesus Colome

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "I am the cat and I am here to steal."

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 11, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're probably right. The pitching was so horrible back then that the meltdowns are all a blur.

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kaz is done

It sucks to say but scociajuyb is done with him I would not be surprised if he’s sent on his way at the end of the year

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The 64K dollar question still is

‘what happened to his slider, the pitch that made him so dominant in 2007’?

Butcher and Scioscia want him to pitch inside, but the slider issue is rarely mentioned

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

The elbow injury happened.

DON't FUCK WITH MY BLACK ASS
by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

His UCL is frayed, he should have gotten surgery around June of 2008

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now Garza and Upton are back on trade rumors.

Nothing against Hellickson, but I would rather have a proven starter doing into a playoff push then a rookie. Besides, I don’t see the Rays making a big splash with anyone.

by GatorRays on Jul 11, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

After Lee was gone is there really a SP out there, that would significantly improve this

rotation?
I’d like to see a bat and that might be Dan Johnson, and a LHP in the pen

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Might be able to get Danny Haren

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "I am the cat and I am here to steal."

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 11, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were never in the Lee sweepstakes

Dan Johnson has been up and down with the Rays and A’s but seems never to stick. I don’t know why. And I agree, there is plenty of pitching for the Rays, a power hitter is more of a pressing need. But what is really avialable. Hart, Worth, possibly Uggla and/or Cantu

by GatorRays on Jul 11, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's a lot of plus bats out there to be had

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

So if Prince didn't cost anything more than David and tons of change...

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by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Davis?

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You do it

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

You still gotta pay him this year and next plus give up at least one arm

I think we can give up less to get someone not quite as good, Willingham has really grown on me

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prince might make us a contender next year too

Even with CC gone

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

We will be a contender next year as long as we have Shields, Garza, Niemann, Davis, Price, and Hellickson

Or some group of 5 of the above. Next year won’t be the end of the world.

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't thinking getting Prince for 2011 should be seen as a con

If we are out of it then we flip him at the break and recoup some of what we gave up. If it was Davis and change I would do it.

Plus Prince would be seen as a big splash and would be a draw for fans

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it was Davis + fodder then I would do it

Davis + Moore +fodder, I would have to think longer about. Pena is starting to get it going now:
wOBA by month"
April .372
May .225
June .395
July .353

That May was sucktastic, but he’s done his job the rest of the time and he’s even striking out just 20% of the time so far this month. It’s no mystery why we’ve started winning again, just as our horrible finish can be blamed on the loss of Pena as much as the pen last year. We go as he goes, and I hope he can stay healthy and doing it well.

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davis + Mcgee?

DON't FUCK WITH MY BLACK ASS
by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No fodder.

DON't FUCK WITH MY BLACK ASS
by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't buy McGee's comeback?

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a large chance that Prince will cost more in 2011 than CC

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "I am the cat and I am here to steal."

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 11, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it's just one year

If this FO could get CC next year for 15-18M I think they would do it.

They just don’t want to be paying him 18M a year for the next 6 years

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for Dan Johnson

All he does is produce and he hasn’t been given a chance to prove he can stick in the majors since 2007. He had a .337 wOBA that year too.

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is not a doubt in my mind he would

Gabe Kapler has to be on thin ice right now. His production has been awful so far this year. Power way down

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lefty masher, fool

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It should be a crime to refer to anyone with a .284 SLG percentage as a "masher"

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

His stats are actually pretty similar to last year

Except for the over .150 drop in SLG………OUCH

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason?

Clearly you haven’t seen him in a speedo.

by Hatfield on Jul 11, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am fine with us not making a big splash and hanging on to our top prospects

In fact I would prefer it.

I think adding a player like a Willingham would do wonders

Sonny's Baby Mamas - http://twitter.com/r_j_anderson/status/16590999556
http://twitter.com/jasoncollette/status/16590980428

by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Willingham would be a splash move

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think so too

I also think he would be cheaper then some of the other big names out there.

I’m not sure if the Heater crowd or National media would think it was a splash move though

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

They should, they've got quite a few nice pieces now, but they need more arms.

We’re like the Macy’s of pitching prospects.

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank gawd this team doesn't make moves just to appease the moron element

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT: RIP

Bob Sheppard—“the voice of God”

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Thhhhhheeeeeeee Yankeeeeessssss loooose

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's John Sterling--their radio guy

Sheppard was their PA announcer since 1951, and who’s been retired since ’07, yet Jeter still uses his recording to announce him. He was 99 yo

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

So he was a child when you were in your mid-30s?

Only the good die young

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of John Sterling's greatest hits include

“An A-Bomb, for A-Rod”
“The Grandy-man Can”
“Giambino”

Man I hate that guy. He’s terrible at his job.

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren't those all Michael Kay?

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "I am the cat and I am here to steal."

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 11, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

DON't FUCK WITH MY BLACK ASS
by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sterling_(sportscaster)

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, Michael Kay's not even in the booth this year. Why would he make something up about Curtis Granderson?

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the best sound bites of all time

Sonny's Baby Mamas - http://twitter.com/r_j_anderson/status/16590999556
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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the top comment
roger might be in Geroge’s box but no one i repeat no one wants to go near suyzn’s box

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sterling_(sportscaster)

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

More (audio) proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxfeRWCdU5k

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is your obsession with Jack Bauer?

You know he’s a fictional character and suck balls, right?

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know they named a street after Jack Bauer in LA for all the service he did for this country.

People kept dying whenever they tried to cross it though.

Nobody crosses Jack Bauer and lives.

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

witty

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish a plane would crash into your hacienda

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

24 fell apart around season 5ish, when he stopped being invincible. I stopped watching then too.

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched one episode through the splayed fingers of a facepalm as the morons I was hanging out with

couldn’t get enough. If my beverage didn’t come in a sealed can I would have been sure that we were at a Jim Jones Revival meeting.

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

So witty calls games for the Yankees?

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by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sterling_(sportscaster)

I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.

by kericr on Jul 11, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the deal with Joe Bateman?

Seems to be having a good year at Durham. I honestly don’t know too much about him

Possible Cormier replacement?

Sonny's Baby Mamas - http://twitter.com/r_j_anderson/status/16590999556
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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Fleming

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by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying why not just bring him up and see if he can stick. If not then bye bye. No harm done

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cormier has been awful

If Evan doesn’t make a gold glove DP turn last night then that game gets scary.

He shouldn’t be used in any tight games just like Corms shouldn’t

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by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're silly

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Choate didn't do it someone else would, and that someone else would still get rocked by righties

while probably not being as effective against lefties. It’s a niche and he fills it capably.

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing against your opinion, I really just don't like niche pitchers.

If your a major leaguer you should be able to pitch like one. If Howell is healthy, Choats is pitching for someone else and Howell is pitching to more than one batter. IMO.

by GatorRays on Jul 11, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just be happy we don't have 2 LOOGYs like last year

Choate and Shouse was just ruhtarded

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather get a LHP

how about Raffy Perez—awful start but look at him lately
he’ll be an arby2 guy the Indians will gladly unload

by sternfan1 on Jul 11, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care who it is. I would just like to see someone else

I’m all for the throw shit against the wall and see what sticks

Sonny's Baby Mamas - http://twitter.com/r_j_anderson/status/16590999556
http://twitter.com/jasoncollette/status/16590980428

by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell no on Perez.

6 K/9 in 2009, 5.83 so far this year. Walks are an issue.

DON't FUCK WITH MY BLACK ASS
by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4

by P Brady on Jul 11, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish he had Price's slider of that year

Thornton gets by on straight lefty gas and Balfour got by amicably in 08 doing the same, but I don’t know too many 1-pitch relievers

And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crawdaddy DHing again

Sonny's Baby Mamas - http://twitter.com/r_j_anderson/status/16590999556
http://twitter.com/jasoncollette/status/16590980428

by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Zobrist
CC
Longo
Pena
Joyce
Jaso
Upton
Briggy
Srod

Sonny's Baby Mamas - http://twitter.com/r_j_anderson/status/16590999556
http://twitter.com/jasoncollette/status/16590980428

by Sveet on Jul 11, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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