Latest Rays Trade Rumor: Prefer to Trade Prospects
by Steve Slowinski on Jul 26, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
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Rays big leaguers B.J. Upton, Sean Rodriguez, Reid Brignac, and Wade Davis are drawing heavy interest, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, but the team's "preference is to use their prospect depth to land a hitter."
The Rays have one of the most stocked minor league systems in the minors, but I'm beginning to wonder if the Rays' wealth of top prospects and talented, cheap players is making it tough to strike a deal. Everyone has to know that the Rays would like to make a deal this season in order to stay competitive with the Yanks and Red Sox, but they have so much stockpiled talent, it might make some teams greedy and ask for the moon. If the Rays want another hitter badly enough, they don't have a lot of leverage to force the price lower and keep from overpaying. Other team will want the Rays to raise the stakes for all other teams involved, but if I know Andrew Friedman, he's not going to overpay.
Negotiations are a tricky thing and I expect that if the Rays do make a trade this year, it will be similar to the recent Angels-D'backs trade: unrumored and unexpected. The Rays work in stealth and if they don't make a trade, it's simply because they couldn't find the right player for the right price. The Cliff Lee trade set the bar high this trade deadline; let's hope it's not too high.
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I feel like Sean is expendable with Joyce and brignac
And his skillset is one that’s often overvalued
by benderbrodriguez on Jul 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think one of Rodriguez or Joyce should be expendible
Worst case scenario, you move Zobrist back to 2B.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I feel like Rodriguez would attract more attention than Joyce
And that Joyce is a better player overall (much better plate discipline/power potential)
by benderbrodriguez on Jul 26, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Said it this morning...
The Rays not being interested in trading young, cost controlled, mlb players is the biggest non story of the deadline.
I’m all for making a fair deal. I’d even be ok with over-paying slightly for the right guy, but don’t want to make a deal for the sake of it.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jul 26, 2010 12:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd really like to see Zobrist in the infield every day next season
It would certainly maximize his value.
by sattp on Jul 26, 2010 12:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed
Zobrist and briggy in the MIF. Joyce beej and deezy in the outs. StB or aybar really should be traded, we don’t have room for both when we could get value in return
by benderbrodriguez on Jul 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think Upton will be back
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 26, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Im not positive that we really need anything but an additional arm in the pen.
And we can fill that hole internally, really.
PLAY BALL DANG IT !!!!!!!
by PlayOnWords on Jul 26, 2010 12:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
A righty that can mash would be nice against Sabathia and Pettite in the playoffs.
Corey Hart please
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by stpetelawyer on Jul 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
desmond
PLAY BALL DANG IT !!!!!!!
by PlayOnWords on Jul 26, 2010 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you expect Desmond to mash lefties right away?
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by stpetelawyer on Jul 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
mash or hit?
seems just someone to hit them would be an upgrade
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by PlayOnWords on Jul 26, 2010 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just wonder what impact a rookie would have against CC or Andy (or fill in the blank good LHP) come playoff time
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by stpetelawyer on Jul 26, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
What's it matter if it's playoff time or the regular season?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 26, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, in the p-offs, homey wouldn't be under the impeccable eye of the service time clock.
PLAY BALL DANG IT !!!!!!!
Umpires do stupid things to Rookies and even stupider things for veterans.
So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
"Humans Prefer to Breath Oxygen to Live" - by Tim Dierkes
Sign lady must die.
dude, this one's over and so is the season
by sternfan1 on Jun 19, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Are DJ and Helly untouchable at this point?
I’d guess that the FO would trade Davis before Hellickson, but I have zero to back that up.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Isn't 13.5 million a little much?
I know there is money coming off the books, but is that really a trade they’d be looking at making?
How good do you think he is?
If he’s a 5-6 win pitcher then that’s a bargain.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 26, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously he's good, I'm not disputing that.
And at 13 million most teams wouldn’t hesitate, but its going to cost more than 1 prospect and we’ll be paying him during years beyond our “all in” year.
I’d prefer a bat.
We won't suck next year. I never said we would.
But that 13.5 mil is easily higher than any player this year. And next year the 2 highest paid are probably gone.
I would like to have grienke, don’t get me wrong.
that's insane
i definitely would. you’re talking about one of the top pitchers in the game. we need to not overvalue our prospects…
I would as long as it wasn't Hellickson + more star prospects. Hellickson has to be the lone centerpiece in what they recieve.
So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think DJ is pretty close to untouchable
They’d consider the right offer, but he’s worth so much in financial terms (e.g., he saves the team $30 or so million on not needing to pay a free agent OF) that it would almost never make sense to trade him. Hellickson is tradeable for the right price I suspect (I do think they’d inlcude him for a Grienke type, someone who would be around for a while and is an elite talent), but I think it’s obvious they’d rather trade Davis than Hellickson at this point.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Assuming we do trade Beepton for a 1-year rental, or he leaves,
How does our 2011 OF shape up?
LF – ?
CF – Deezy
RF – Joyce
Zobrist? Nando? Ruggs?
Sign lady must die.
dude, this one's over and so is the season
by sternfan1 on Jun 19, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Something like that or a cheap FA
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 26, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Gabe Gross is a FA next year.
Sign lady must die.
dude, this one's over and so is the season
by sternfan1 on Jun 19, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
by EminenceFront on Jul 26, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
But dreadfully average
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Zobrist stays in RF, unless Rodriguez is traded
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Cory Hart
is an obvious choice.But Ryan Braun would be a great darkhorse target.
If AF can pull of a trade for Hanley that would be awesome
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Hanley is meh for me.
I’d rather target Pujols.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jul 26, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hanley is just a darkhorse target though
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha great post SRQ, hilarious as always
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU'RE SO RIGHT!
Just look at his batting average!
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Forgetting advanced stats
Dude has an .820 OPS. How is that not at least a little impressive?
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
What?
Entering yesterday he had a 20% walk rate and 22% strikeout rate. His ISO was over .200. His wOBA right now is .365 despite a .255 BABIP. That’s VERY good.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 26, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he's lazy too
He doesn’t even swing.He just gets a bunch of walks. Can we try bartlett in RF or at DH?
by Sticky Bandit on Jul 26, 2010 1:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Er, I stand corrected after last night. (;
by learnedglove on Jul 27, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
We've heard Hart, Scott, and Dunn a lot. Are those three still viable candidates to be added?
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Werth too.
Sign lady must die.
dude, this one's over and so is the season
by sternfan1 on Jun 19, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
by EminenceFront on Jul 26, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently there's an Edwin to Washington, Dunn to chicago, prospects to Arizona deal being discussed.
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by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4
link plz
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
by Gone Phishing on Jul 26, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I see it now
This is stupid. Edwin Jackson does not warrant any amounts of prospects
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
by Gone Phishing on Jul 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
What part of no-hit stuff don't you understand?
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
the part about 8 walks
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by Gone Phishing on Jul 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
0 hits
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Qualls again:
jonmorosi
Sources say #Rays interested in Chad Qualls — if he shows even a little consistency. #Dbacks #MLB
Liked him last year. He looked mechanically lost in our series, but not sure if that’s a reoccurring thing.
his days of being the closer of old could be over
but i’ll be optimistic
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by Gone Phishing on Jul 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Chad Qualls BABIP: .FOURFIFTYTWO
That’s James Shields BABIP + 100 points. He’s nowhere near this bad.
So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
No point bothering
It’d be a waste of whatever prospects we send off unless they’re C+ or lower
by benderbrodriguez on Jul 26, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Arizona is pretty clearly in dump mode.
I don’t think it would take much at all. Might be a waiver trade candidate.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 26, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign me up for Kelly Johnson if they're willing too.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 26, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno, but he KILLS LHP.
Worst case is someone DHing who isn’t thought of as a DH during those games.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 26, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Worth it at the right price. Spare arm (Aneury?) or something.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jul 26, 2010 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fernando perez
for Qualls
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by Gone Phishing on Jul 26, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You need Nando as an insurance policy for DJ
In my opinion. DJ is too injury prone not to have a good defensive backup available.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I think the talent offer is right though. Someone at Nando's potential but not him.
So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather Ruggiano than Nando as insurance for DJ
Nando brings speed, Ruggiano brings speed plus a little offense
Total Zone seems to have really liked Ruggs in CF last year
The thought of either as an everyday CF if Deezy were to get hurt is a little chilling
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Does Ruggs have an option left though?
I think Perez does.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
if he doesn't I'd imagine he has still a little value
we should try to move him if even just as a throw in piece. He has been unfortunate in this organization that he has never gotten a real shot in the majors.
That, and he's not that good
I hate to say it, but he’s a definitive AAAA player. His performance in AAA has never been quite good enough to warrant an extended shot. Guys like Ruggs are pretty close to a dime a dozen.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Also
Total Zone is going to like anyone who plays next to Carl Crawford better.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Greinke & Luke Scott plz.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jul 26, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
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by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4
Saving him as part of a package to bring in Francouer
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh, how about Francouer AND Castillo.
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by sternfan1 on Jul 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4
If we give up anything of value for Corey Hart then AF got AF'd
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jul 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
Hart is hurt right now BTW.
So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The more I think about this trade, the less I can find a place for him on the Rays.
He’d be a good pickup for another team (the Reds come to mind seeing how he could probably outproduce Gomes while playing better defense).
So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Gomes is -0.1 WAR YTD on account of being -10 in the field.
It’s incredible that he could be that bad.
So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
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So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not the right format for his joke anyway, that picture doesn't have any transparency elements.
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I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 26, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I really really can not believe that's accurate
It’s seems incredible because it’s probably not true
Fangraphs is an awful site you know.
So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like this is true
it might make some teams greedy and ask for the moon
I don’t know if it’s just perception or that I overvalue my own teams prospects, but in all these rumored deals it feels like we have to give up a lot more then other teams.
Hellickson and Jennings I would agree
But beyond that, most names bandied about are A or A+ ballers
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Almost every team habitually overvalues its own prospects
Just not the Phillies
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I still wouldn't mind the idea of a RH bat to replace Kapler
Matt Diaz doesn’t play everyday for the Braves, I wonder if they would give him up for something cheap. Dan Uggla or Jorge Cantu would cost more but could fill the DH role nicely.
I know many here don't agree with me
but I wouldn’t mind seeing Ruggiano get a shot if Kapler keeps struggling
The thing that bugs me is I'm 99% sure Kapler won't be resigned this offseason
and its gotten to the point where he’s bad enough that it wouldn’t hurt the team if they used his roster spot to audition internal options for the 4th OF spot next year.
I really hate having dead weight on the roster.
If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
Just imagine where Jaso would be right now if Shoppach never got hurt
I wonder if he would have even gotten a chance yet
Cormier is an even better example of this
They could have gotten rid of him a month ago and been throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks.
Give guys from AAA a chance to show they belong in low leverage situations
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