Rays End Disappointing Road Trip With 3-2 Loss to Tigers
The Rays completed a disappointing road trip today with a 3-2 loss to the Tigers. The team went 2-4 on the trip, their first losing roadie this season, despite outscoring their opponents 28-25. Outside of the game against Toronto where they allowed 17 runs, in no other game did the opposition score more than 3. Unfortunately, all losses count the same. The Rays currently sit 1.5 games behind the Yankees in the East, which isn't too bad considering their recent struggles. If they are going to catch, and this time stay ahead of, the Yankees they'll need to win games like today's.
Even though they were facing Justin Verlander, the offense was presented with ample opportunities to score runs. They just...didn't. The Rays had at least one base runner in all but one inning, yet managed to score just two runs. Verlander wasn't so sharp today, allowing nine men on base while hurling 119 pitches in his six innings of work, yet got the key outs in the right situations. The same could have been said for Matt Garza - right up until the Ryan Raburn home run. He had worked out of two bases loaded situations, each with two outs and Johnny Peralta at the plate after walks to Miguel Cabrera. The Rays REALLY don't plan on letting Cabrera beat them this season. Garza would last only 5.1IP, while giving up seven hits and three walks while striking out just four. It was a far cry from his no hit performance in his last outing against Detroit. His pitch f/x numbers don't look terrible, he just threw far too many pitches. He threw his fastball 82 times for a near 70% strike rate, and even got eight whiffs on it. The pitch to Raburn was a fastball that caught too much of the plate and ended up costing the Rays the game, though it really shouldn't of come to that.
- It was nice to see the Rays keep up their walking ways, racking up six more bases on balls today, two each from B.J. Upton and Kelly Shoppach. The hitting with runners in scoring position just wasn't there.
- Evan Longoria hit a triple today, his third extra base hit in as many games. He had been slumping this month, so a 5-14 series is encouraging.
- Very nice relief work by Chad Qualls and Dan Wheeler. Qualls has been exceptional since coming over from Arizona.
- Not to hate on Bartlett, but having him face a hard throwing righty is never a good idea. He's been playing a lot lately, why not give Brignac the start today?
- Hopefully the Orioles don't keep up their recent hot play when they visit the Trop this weekend.
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I speculated a few days ago and will repeat again
I wonder if he (brignac) is a bad clubhouse guy or doesn’t practice hard. He seems to have lost even his platoon spot and is now a straight bench guy
Zobrist needs another visit to the Hit Doctor
I am not expecting 09 status, but he should still belt 15+ home runs. He looks lost this year at the plate even if he is still getting on base.
but he isn't
less than 250 post ASG
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I'm guessing Briggy goes on the DL
With Zo’s struggles of late and JB getting a lot of playing time, I can’t think of another reason why Briggy would not have given one of the two the day off for a 2 day rest. This is not what I would do, but its the only reason I could think of to freeze Briggy out to this degree.
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I wish they would say what the hell is up with him...
I mean, my 3 yr old son could see the 0-4 coming with Bartlett up against Verlander.
by BOHICA_ALEast on Aug 11, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Bartlett is killing this team right now
Why can’t Joe see a daily dose of Zobrist and Briggy each and every day is the answer to ALL our offensive woes?
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And of course throw in a little Willy Aybar just for taste
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S-Rod has earned more PT against all pitching
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S-Rod should be starting 2B
But we can’t have that with JB @ SS
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure we can--Zobrist has been awful since the ASG
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Zobrist should be in RF
Joyce @ DH, that’s your optimal line up
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on what random split?
I like SRod and think he deserves to face LHP, but we have a good lineup vs RHP regardless of what recent small sample you want to look at. SRod has slugging on his side, which inflates small samples when he hits a home run. Its the same trap the Brignpac fell into after his rampage against the Yanks.
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S-Rod has a great minor league record
Briggy has really bever dominated any league since AA
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Be wary of the numbers he put up with the Angels
Very inflated
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't understand what DRB 's love affair with Briggy and Zobrist is all about
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dont you dislike the fact that we strike out a lot
hint: Srod = KRod
You're letting a few month slump cloud your judgement of the larger body of work on Zobrist
.784 career OPS. Theres no doubt hes struggling and I wouldnt’t protest a day off or a move down in the order, but you’re a fool for giving up on the man. There could even be a health issue in play.
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obsess much?
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I believe when others resort to this tactic you say:
I’ll take that as a victory
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing tonight won't end well, with both NYY and BOS winning their games
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Lee is pitching tonight
That’s no lock for NYY
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not helping that Marcum just served up another dinger to Bill Hall
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I rest my case
I reI recall people laughing when i said the Sox would win the ALE
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They won't will the ALE
But they’re not like dead
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
then how can you say they won't?
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Last 10 games of the season
NYY CHW NYY-death row
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i like the Sox rotation better than anyone in the ALE
and i like the Indians offense more than ours
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Hmm...would I like to score 460 runs this season or 571?
A .315 wOBA or a .330 wOBA?
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.
by Steve Slowinski on Aug 11, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah true. Forgot to pick an arbitrary endpoint.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.
by Steve Slowinski on Aug 11, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and by sf1 logic, this means the game is over and Texas has already won.
Time to switch the channel from espn.
Rays-Red Sox game is gonna be on SNB
AT THE TROP EVEN
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
obsess much?
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Guess these teams. Column 1 is Runs Scored, Column 2 is Team 1 frequency, Column 3 is Team 2 frequency
One team is considered by “some” to be an offensive juggernaut, the other one is considered pathetic offensive.
0—5—5
1—7—14
2—8—8
3—16—10
4—17—16
5—8—13
6—13—12
7—12—6
8— 8—10
9—5—8
10—4—8
11—5—2
12—3—1
13—0—0
14—1—0
15—0—0
The Mariners is the middle Rays is the 3rd column
But isn’t one of those teams the Rangers?
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
probably the yankees
last column is obvious rays
Yankees Rays
In my opinion the only real giveaway for the Rays is at the 1 run mark. Other than that area, we compare pretty favorably to the Yankees. But notice the difference as you get up to and above 5 runs.
I guess, when we get stifled, we get stifled, but the instance, to me, is pretty rare compared to the other #’s we put up.
I welcome differing opinion/analysis.
It's all those 1R games that's frustrating
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing that's bailed out the offense is the high amount of RISP
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
imagine if we werent horrible with risp
(we aren’t actually terrible with risp it just seems like we never score runs)
I guess when you're streaky
And have so many guys on base, it can be frustrating.
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
host it somewhere
photobucket, imageshack etc
I may look at this for more teams.
I wonder if there is a “fatigue” factor in play that gives us similar peaks and valleys at the same time or if it is just coincidence in this example.
10 is arbitrary, but I think it shows trends okay
It is also subject to pretty big shifts when low or big numbers drop
9-1 in TOR
Bill Hall is a destroyer of baseballs
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
as i predicted, tonight would not end well
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Give us those wOBA numbers again on A-Rod, huh Z-man?
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He only got a 2B
That’s boring
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh you mean he came back to life?
Somehow you missed the point that baseball players slump
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Great players make great plays
stats are for losers
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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wasn't the knock on A-Rod as being unclutch for most of his career?
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yes, that'll be on his plaque in Cooperstown
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Only with the Yankees
When it counted
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And ARod was at his most unclutch in the VERY important series between the top 2 teams in baseball
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;et's wait till that series means something
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i have little confidence in our offense
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Still the third most runs scored in baseball this year...
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
you're only kidding yourself with that stat
again bloated by a few big scoring games, like the 11 R scored on Saturday
How’d that work out?
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how many games have we scored 3 or less and where does that rank in the AL?
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you're much quicker--i'm not sure where to find it
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3 or less? that's interesting-thanks
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wow--19x either SHO or 1 R
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almost 20% of the season
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a lot closer to 15% than 20%
(16.666666666666666667)
Not many have argued with you that our offense is at its peak.
The problem is that, in my opinion, you overstate the negative. We don’t score as many runs as we have and win as many games as we have with a terrible offense. The truth is that our batters are HITTING below average yet we are keeping up with the “best” in baseball.
However, much like some focus on “Garza’s game” you tend to focus on every single misstep of this team. We score 2 in a game and lose and you pack it in, if we score 5 and win, there isn’t a peep.
Truth is we are stuck with the squad we have, generally. None of us agree with Maddon’s decisions all of the time, but he has won the 2nd most games in the majors, scored the 3rd most runs (with a “terrible” offense), and has us barely trailing in the ALE.
Our RS doesn’t appear to be trending consistently downward (see graph above). So, in my opinion, you focus on the worst events and try to extrapolate those as a trend or true potential of this team, when it just isn’t there.
When you have tthe top defense, and are 2nd in pitching, its the weakest
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True...
but big picture. It’s not a weakness.
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by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not weak relative to other teams out of the running
But I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed in the offense. Working on a Shelton post as we comment
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No saber at all...
but IF we get to the playoffs, I can’t see it hurting us having had to “scratch out” runs in close games during the season.
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by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
oh it definitely can be a weakness at times
all we have to really worry about is making it to the playoffs and then hoping that they hit the ball well/pitch the ball well when in the playoffs
thats all it really is about (survival)
not weighted, but ill bite
a-rod this year: .266 .338 .476
our terrible 3b: .287 .374 .487
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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
obsess much?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
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This back and forth can end; both of you
Feed free to debate, but this is silly
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hes been awesome since june 1st too
thats the most important thing
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oh they scored
i was away from the tv for a bit ill rewind my dvr
yep absolutely berkman's fault
inning is over if tex is @1b
SF1- Your precious Cleveland offense is being 1 hit in the ninth by Brad Bergesen
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I guess this is where the lion goes out with a whimper
I expect the roaring aimed at some Tweeters to begin shortly
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Uh oh....
In case you were wondering: Bill Hall now has as many homers as Evan Longoria
Boom. Outta Here.
Did anyone see they used xFIP on Baseball Tonight last night?
I forget who they were saying has way too good of an ERA since the ASB
Can u schedule your shelton post for a few min so I can see if my data is overlap?
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I can after I fix my bad looking tables
They didn’t get saved last night =(
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
missed it...
I was chatting with babes on Facebook
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I was on friendster...
/is that even something?
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by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
something like a .7 ERA, xFIP was 3.7 or something
was pretty crazy
0BBs
He’s making Shields look like Kazmir
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
rangers trying to give away the game
results are so far so good
Tied in HR
Bill Hall and ALL everything Evan Longoria
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I really wish you had a radio show
Longoria will be flippin burgers in a few years
by sternfan1 on Aug 8, 2010 2:06 PM EDT
Sometimes, so do i
i’ve called plenty of them
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He's also a Heater commenter
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by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Best commenter ever
Longoria will be flippin burgers in a few years
by sternfan1 on Aug 8, 2010 2:06 PM EDT
SF1, what happened with the GDT?
Wasn’t it the somewhat anticlimactic end of you on here, with a corresponding twitter post marking your departure?
I have mixed feelings. On one hand, you make some occasionally interesting counterpoints and spur affirming discussion. One the other, you seem like a total hypochondriac who seems like the baseball fan equivalent of an autoimmune disorder.
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Aug 11, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
he was banned
and then was unbanned later on
He'll be around in a second...
as the Rangers are shitting the bed
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
top of the order coming up
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by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Good night moran
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by sternfan1fan on Aug 11, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That really was Raysian
Runner on 3, no outs, barely got the ball out of the infield
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by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions

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