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Rays End Disappointing Road Trip With 3-2 Loss to Tigers


The Rays completed a disappointing road trip today with a 3-2 loss to the Tigers. The team went 2-4 on the trip, their first losing roadie this season, despite outscoring their opponents 28-25. Outside of the game against Toronto where they allowed 17 runs, in no other game did the opposition score more than 3. Unfortunately, all losses count the same. The Rays currently sit 1.5 games behind the Yankees in the East, which isn't too bad considering their recent struggles. If they are going to catch, and this time stay ahead of, the Yankees they'll need to win games like today's.

Even though they were facing Justin Verlander, the offense was presented with ample opportunities to score runs. They just...didn't. The Rays had at least one base runner in all but one inning, yet managed to score just two runs. Verlander wasn't so sharp today, allowing nine men on base while hurling 119 pitches in his six innings of work, yet got the key outs in the right situations. The same could have been said for Matt Garza - right up until the Ryan Raburn home run. He had worked out of two bases loaded situations, each with two outs and Johnny Peralta at the plate after walks to Miguel Cabrera. The Rays REALLY don't plan on letting Cabrera beat them this season. Garza would last only 5.1IP, while giving up seven hits and three walks while striking out just four. It was a far cry from his no hit performance in his last outing against Detroit. His pitch f/x numbers don't look terrible, he just threw far too many pitches. He threw his fastball 82 times for a near 70% strike rate, and even got eight whiffs on it. The pitch to Raburn was a fastball that caught too much of the plate and ended up costing the Rays the game, though it really shouldn't of come to that.

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  • It was nice to see the Rays keep up their walking ways, racking up six more bases on balls today, two each from B.J. Upton and Kelly Shoppach. The hitting with runners in scoring position just wasn't there.
  • Evan Longoria hit a triple today, his third extra base hit in as many games. He had been slumping this month, so a 5-14 series is encouraging.
  • Very nice relief work by Chad Qualls and Dan Wheeler. Qualls has been exceptional since coming over from Arizona.
  • Not to hate on Bartlett, but having him face a hard throwing righty is never a good idea. He's been playing a lot lately, why not give Brignac the start today?
  • Hopefully the Orioles don't keep up their recent hot play when they visit the Trop this weekend.


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I speculated a few days ago and will repeat again

I wonder if he (brignac) is a bad clubhouse guy or doesn’t practice hard. He seems to have lost even his platoon spot and is now a straight bench guy

by Dbullsfan on Aug 11, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zobrist needs another visit to the Hit Doctor

I am not expecting 09 status, but he should still belt 15+ home runs. He looks lost this year at the plate even if he is still getting on base.

by raysrule44 on Aug 11, 2010 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

but he isn't

less than 250 post ASG

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing Briggy goes on the DL

With Zo’s struggles of late and JB getting a lot of playing time, I can’t think of another reason why Briggy would not have given one of the two the day off for a 2 day rest. This is not what I would do, but its the only reason I could think of to freeze Briggy out to this degree.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 11, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish they would say what the hell is up with him...

I mean, my 3 yr old son could see the 0-4 coming with Bartlett up against Verlander.

by BOHICA_ALEast on Aug 11, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Bartlett is killing this team right now

Why can’t Joe see a daily dose of Zobrist and Briggy each and every day is the answer to ALL our offensive woes?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

S-Rod should be starting 2B

But we can’t have that with JB @ SS

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on what random split?

I like SRod and think he deserves to face LHP, but we have a good lineup vs RHP regardless of what recent small sample you want to look at. SRod has slugging on his side, which inflates small samples when he hits a home run. Its the same trap the Brignpac fell into after his rampage against the Yanks.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 11, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

S-Rod has a great minor league record

Briggy has really bever dominated any league since AA

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're letting a few month slump cloud your judgement of the larger body of work on Zobrist

.784 career OPS. Theres no doubt hes struggling and I wouldnt’t protest a day off or a move down in the order, but you’re a fool for giving up on the man. There could even be a health issue in play.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 11, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

DoneZo

If we consider ourselves a master team then we have to act like a master team, not degenerates.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I rest my case

I reI recall people laughing when i said the Sox would win the ALE

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They won't will the ALE

But they’re not like dead

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess these teams. Column 1 is Runs Scored, Column 2 is Team 1 frequency, Column 3 is Team 2 frequency

One team is considered by “some” to be an offensive juggernaut, the other one is considered pathetic offensive.

0—5—5
1—7—14
2—8—8
3—16—10
4—17—16
5—8—13
6—13—12
7—12—6
8— 8—10
9—5—8
10—4—8
11—5—2
12—3—1
13—0—0
14—1—0
15—0—0

by wtbudlight on Aug 11, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Yankees Rays

In my opinion the only real giveaway for the Rays is at the 1 run mark. Other than that area, we compare pretty favorably to the Yankees. But notice the difference as you get up to and above 5 runs.

I guess, when we get stifled, we get stifled, but the instance, to me, is pretty rare compared to the other #’s we put up.

I welcome differing opinion/analysis.

by wtbudlight on Aug 11, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

imagine if we werent horrible with risp

(we aren’t actually terrible with risp it just seems like we never score runs)

by MagicMark on Aug 11, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess when you're streaky

And have so many guys on base, it can be frustrating.

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may look at this for more teams.

I wonder if there is a “fatigue” factor in play that gives us similar peaks and valleys at the same time or if it is just coincidence in this example.

by wtbudlight on Aug 11, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 is arbitrary, but I think it shows trends okay

It is also subject to pretty big shifts when low or big numbers drop

by wtbudlight on Aug 11, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you mean he came back to life?

Somehow you missed the point that baseball players slump

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 11, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great players make great plays

stats are for losers

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

<3

Longoria will be flippin burgers in a few years
by sternfan1 on Aug 8, 2010 2:06 PM EDT

by SRQman on Aug 11, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're only kidding yourself with that stat

again bloated by a few big scoring games, like the 11 R scored on Saturday

How’d that work out?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not many have argued with you that our offense is at its peak.

The problem is that, in my opinion, you overstate the negative. We don’t score as many runs as we have and win as many games as we have with a terrible offense. The truth is that our batters are HITTING below average yet we are keeping up with the “best” in baseball.

However, much like some focus on “Garza’s game” you tend to focus on every single misstep of this team. We score 2 in a game and lose and you pack it in, if we score 5 and win, there isn’t a peep.

Truth is we are stuck with the squad we have, generally. None of us agree with Maddon’s decisions all of the time, but he has won the 2nd most games in the majors, scored the 3rd most runs (with a “terrible” offense), and has us barely trailing in the ALE.

Our RS doesn’t appear to be trending consistently downward (see graph above). So, in my opinion, you focus on the worst events and try to extrapolate those as a trend or true potential of this team, when it just isn’t there.

by wtbudlight on Aug 11, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he's a pinch-hit puppet master!

Otherwise, very well stated

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 11, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

True...

but big picture. It’s not a weakness.

Boom. Outta Here.

by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not weak relative to other teams out of the running

But I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed in the offense. Working on a Shelton post as we comment

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 11, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No saber at all...

but IF we get to the playoffs, I can’t see it hurting us having had to “scratch out” runs in close games during the season.

Boom. Outta Here.

by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I’ve been craving a Shelton post — not being sarcastic.

by Hatfield on Aug 12, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh it definitely can be a weakness at times

all we have to really worry about is making it to the playoffs and then hoping that they hit the ball well/pitch the ball well when in the playoffs

thats all it really is about (survival)

by MagicMark on Aug 11, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

112 games and about 500 runs

isn’t overly impacted by “a few big games”

by wtbudlight on Aug 11, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

not weighted, but ill bite

a-rod this year: .266 .338 .476

our terrible 3b: .287 .374 .487

by MagicMark on Aug 11, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

obsess much?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

obsess much?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions

obsess much?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions

obsess much?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

by MagicMark on Aug 11, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

obsess much?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This back and forth can end; both of you

Feed free to debate, but this is silly

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 11, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

SINCE JUNE FIRST

Josh Hamilton batting over .400!

by MagicMark on Aug 11, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

obsess much?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tied in HR

Bill Hall and ALL everything Evan Longoria

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I really wish you had a radio show

Longoria will be flippin burgers in a few years
by sternfan1 on Aug 8, 2010 2:06 PM EDT

by SRQman on Aug 11, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes, so do i

i’ve called plenty of them

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by sternfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

SF1, what happened with the GDT?

Wasn’t it the somewhat anticlimactic end of you on here, with a corresponding twitter post marking your departure?

I have mixed feelings. On one hand, you make some occasionally interesting counterpoints and spur affirming discussion. One the other, you seem like a total hypochondriac who seems like the baseball fan equivalent of an autoimmune disorder.

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Aug 11, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He'll be around in a second...

as the Rangers are shitting the bed

Boom. Outta Here.

by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 11, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andrus on 3rd

CC would’ve scored on that triple

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

GTMI

lulz

Longoria will be flippin burgers in a few years
by sternfan1 on Aug 8, 2010 2:06 PM EDT

by SRQman on Aug 11, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That really was Raysian

Runner on 3, no outs, barely got the ball out of the infield

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Aug 11, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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