Brief Series Preview of Texas Rangers; Carlos Pena in the Starting Line-up Tonight
by Steve Slowinski on Aug 16, 2010 3:50 PM EDT
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PrintFirst two games are 7:10 PM starts; Wednesday's game is a 1:10 PM start.
Monday, August 16: Cliff Lee (2.54 FIP) vs. David Price (3.48 FIP)
Tuesday, August 17: Tommy Hunter (5.18 FIP) vs. Matt Garza (4.44 FIP)
Wednesday, August 18: Derek Holland (5.06 FIP) vs. James Shields (4.54 FIP)
If you're not watching tonight, you're not a fan of fine baseball; on paper, it's one the best pitching match-ups of the season. This series looks to be a test for the Rays. Even with Nelson Cruz currently on the DL, this is a dangerous Texas team and one that the Rays stand a decent chance of facing in the post-season.
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So far, we know that Carlos Pena is in the line-up tonight, but there has been no announcement about the corresponding roster move. Gabe Kapler is not in the starting line-up tonight against a lefty, though, so it seems likely that the move relates to him. The other likely candidate to get demoted, Sean Rodriguez, is in the line-up. More news should be coming soon.
Update: Gabe Kapler has been placed on the 15-day DL with a right ankle sprain. He will be eligible to return around the time rosters expand on September 1st.
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Hard to imagine Texas's lineup being much weaker than this.
Kinsler and Cruz on the DL, Vlad Guerrero in a spectacular slump… hope the Rays can tale advantage this week.
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by Jamie DeVriend on Aug 16, 2010 3:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Remember when RJ told us how bad Michael Young was?
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He has turned into a defensive butcher.
Unfortunately the Rangers are probably stuck with him at third because they already made him switch positions against his will twice (from 2B to SS so they could bring up Kinsler, and from SS to 3B so they could bring up Andrus).
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by Jamie DeVriend on Aug 16, 2010 4:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Young moved to SS for Soriano not Kinsler
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by Kinslerhomer on Aug 16, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, mixed up my timeline. Soriano has been blocked out of my Ranger memory.
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by Jamie DeVriend on Aug 16, 2010 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's awful at defense when playing shortstop.
He moved to an easier position .If Bartlett moved to second I would suspect he’d be above average.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 16, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He's been pretty bad at 3B lately, too.
I don’t have any UZR stats to back this up but quite a few balls have gobbled him up that should be fairly easy to handle.
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by Jamie DeVriend on Aug 16, 2010 5:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's terrible
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by Kinslerhomer on Aug 16, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
WDAE reports
Kapler’s name is not on the list of extra players. Sounds like he gets a copy of the home game.
His hip must be "hurting"
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 16, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure he slept wrong last night and hurt his hip.
I'll have a bloody mary and a steak sandwich...and a steak sandwich.
by Passionate Apathy on Aug 16, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure he slept wrong last night and hurt his hip.
I'll have a bloody mary and a steak sandwich...and a steak sandwich.
by Passionate Apathy on Aug 16, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Reports are he headed to trainer's room and will meet with reporters soon
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He probably caught whatever Sonny had.
I'll have a bloody mary and a steak sandwich...and a steak sandwich.
by Passionate Apathy on Aug 16, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure he slept wrong last night and hurt his hip.
?Did she dead? The clowns make the girl go boom boom and she gets CUT and CUUUUUUT!? NOOOOOOO to the Tila I am so cry! ;( Somewon call the policia o 911. Tila Tila you so strong. You so brave. Clowns so wrong. Tila Tila sing my song, all the day.
I see what you are doing.
I'll have a bloody mary and a steak sandwich...and a steak sandwich.
by Passionate Apathy on Aug 16, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Who me?
?Did she dead? The clowns make the girl go boom boom and she gets CUT and CUUUUUUT!? NOOOOOOO to the Tila I am so cry! ;( Somewon call the policia o 911. Tila Tila you so strong. You so brave. Clowns so wrong. Tila Tila sing my song, all the day.
Are you back in 102 tonight?
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by Passionate Apathy on Aug 16, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. Birthday dinner tonight. Maybe Velociraptor Jesus will bless me with a CGSO.
?Did she dead? The clowns make the girl go boom boom and she gets CUT and CUUUUUUT!? NOOOOOOO to the Tila I am so cry! ;( Somewon call the policia o 911. Tila Tila you so strong. You so brave. Clowns so wrong. Tila Tila sing my song, all the day.
Lost a bout with Hickey
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
I'm sure he slept wrong last night and hurt his hip.
?Did she dead? The clowns make the girl go boom boom and she gets CUT and CUUUUUUT!? NOOOOOOO to the Tila I am so cry! ;( Somewon call the policia o 911. Tila Tila you so strong. You so brave. Clowns so wrong. Tila Tila sing my song, all the day.
We would demote SeanRod
instead of Dan Johnson?
But let's continue to give ABs to the guy with a 143/298/209
oveer the past month
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Dont get me wrong
I ilke Dan Johnson, he gets on base and has been unlucky, but Sean Rod hits lefties and can play many positions.
I wasn't speaking of Dan Johnson
We’re on the same page with SeanRod—hell with this offense i’d find a spot most every day for him
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He might have the best glove on the team outside of Brignac.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 16, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't agree at all--BJ, Longo and maybe S-Rod at 2B
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I would put Rodriguez ahead of Zobie from a strictly defensive POV
Just based on watching them play, not sure what the metrics say.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 16, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this before or after his back started bothering him a month ago?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 16, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Tall guy, back problems, I'm sure you can relate, they don't heal so easily.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 16, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
better than Zobrist--since June--way better
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If you DFA DanJo, there's a very good chance he ends up somewhere else than with the Rays.
You want to keep him around.
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by Steve Slowinski on Aug 16, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone explain in 200 words or less, how the use of FIP
doesn’t differentiate more between Garza and Shields. Shields is really only .1 worse than Garza using that measure?
Not a slam on Big Game. Just a question because it would seem that fielding independent pitching would reflect that Garza has performed more than .1 than Shields. I surely must be missing something in the calculation.
Just a guess w/o looking i'd say Garza doesn't have as good K/BB ratio than
the fabulous Mr Yields
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Correct, and in any other season we would be hearing about Garza's HR issues
But Davis and Shields have saved Garza from the conversation. Also whats astonishing is Shields BABIP of .341 because remember that doesn’t account for all the HR’s.
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Shields has a great BB/K ratio still
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 16, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
And he's let up 21 HRs to Shields's 28.
Shields has him beat, but it’s not like Garza is that much better at keeping the ball in the yard, apparently.
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by Steve Slowinski on Aug 16, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at the difference in their BABiP.
Shields is over .330 while Garza is under .270
by Erik Hahmann on Aug 16, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Yields, in a year when HR in the AL are down to a 18 year low
this POS has found a way to give them up like free food in a soup kitchen
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Speaking of shitley, in a year where we're arguably the best team in baseball
this POS found a way to bitch and moan like a homeless man eating free food in a soup kitchen
that was pretty lame--think?
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He's pitching better than Garza who is a complete mental case.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 16, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Shields>Garza? In what language?
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why are you so concerned about Stu's wallet?
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Because, I don't want to be like all those other teams
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 16, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't trade Garza this year
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English, Egyptospanish?
The entirety of the season counts and Shields has had more good starts, in my opinion. Garza is a mental midget.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 16, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Garza walks people, Shields doesn't
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 16, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
On a related note
Is there an xFIP that adjusts for career HR/FB ratio rather than the league average? Seems like it would be a lot more useful.
by sattp on Aug 16, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
as xFIP keeps waiting on Shields HR/FB to regress, HR keep flying out of ballparks when he's on the mound
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3 of his last 4 games have been 0HR games
of course that 1 kinda messes it up
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by Transplanted on Aug 16, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Because HR/FB isn't something that stabilizes so quickly.
It doesn’t stabilize within a normal season’s worth of pitching. In other words, there can be a heck of a long time before his HR/FB number comes down, but in the long run – as in, looking at his overall contract and value – it will.
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by Steve Slowinski on Aug 16, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Just multiply flyballs by whatever ratio you want.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 16, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I'm not trying to justify creating another stat
But it seems like a logical statistic. Shields isn’t a league average HR/FB guy and it would account for any regression he is due. Am I missing something or does this make a good deal more sense than assuming everyone’s FB are equally likely to be homers?
by sattp on Aug 16, 2010 4:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The problem is there's not really any proof that some guys are more homer-prone than others.
SSS and all there is, but how do you hold for talent changes versus luck? I.E. at what point can we call someone’s career rate their talent level? And as their skills erode/change how do we account for that?
Yields v Rangers on WED
HR allowed
Hamilton, Young, Murphy for starters
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They're a poor road team offensively
relative to home
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 16, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They hit pretty well here last year
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19-for-98 is "pretty well."
That’s a .194 average. Even Kazmir kept them in line.
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by Jamie DeVriend on Aug 16, 2010 4:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The team's H/R Split thfor OPS is
.823 for home, .699 for the road
Rays is .734 home, .742 road
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 16, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Not gonna lie
I’m excited for tonight/this series.
love it love it love it
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
He can sling a quip as well as a bowling ball, gals!
?Did she dead? The clowns make the girl go boom boom and she gets CUT and CUUUUUUT!? NOOOOOOO to the Tila I am so cry! ;( Somewon call the policia o 911. Tila Tila you so strong. You so brave. Clowns so wrong. Tila Tila sing my song, all the day.
So maybe we can double CLee's season walks total tonight
and maybe get a hit?
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I will be shocked if we win these games
We’d get so many kids off every game it was great.
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Glad to see
Pena back at 1B.That weak play by Johnson last game almost blew it for us.KK said Carlos probably turns it into DP.You can’t underestimate the power of the glove.
You mean the injury police.
They are easily bribed.Many cross the border illegally.
I recall some crap in the 1973 World Series
Th A’s tried to DL a backup infielder to activate one of the top prospects (I remember that guy being Manny Trillo) and getting into hot water.
Since then, never heard of anything beingdone with these fishy injuries. The Rays have had a few of them in the last couple years (Kaz’s quad come to mind)…
If you MRI a guy
You can find an injury almost always
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 16, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
and which major league players have NO sore knees, shoulders, ankles, etc. at this point in the season?
Regressing to the mean streets of St. Pete
by stpetelawyer on Aug 16, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Axe Gary
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 16, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
How dare you
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "Free the slaves at traffic stops from false arrest and jury fixing"
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 16, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
On the injury front
Neiman might be back for the angels.That is good news.
That'll be helpful
Sonny has held the fort down, but he’s not as good as Niemann
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 16, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Best part of watching this series for me
Having the Rangers broadcast team call the games (I think the Rays feed gets blacked out on MLB.TV because I’m local).
Josh Lewin and Tom Grieve >>>>>>>>>>>> Dtaats and KK.
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by Jamie DeVriend on Aug 16, 2010 6:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lewin can be annoying at times
yet still >>>>>>>>> KK
I miss Magrane.
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Looks like someone forgot again
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 16, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If one does not appear in about 5minutes
I’ll open it
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 16, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
PREPARE FOR THE MEDIA ASSAULT
(Grabs a shield)
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 16, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never been one to really rag on attendance, but shit...
I’d give my left nut to be there tonight but wife is on call so I can’t get out of town
by Jason Collette on Aug 16, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
but the bridge
its so damn long!
Miami is in Ohio
by Clearwaterburgh on Aug 16, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Dave and Andy said
its filling in nicely…company line?
Miami is in Ohio
by Clearwaterburgh on Aug 16, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
TK just said it's more than expected for a Monday night
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Go Rays!
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