Deadspin Releases Leaked Financial Reports for the 2007, 2008 Tampa Bay Rays
To view the full reports, check out the Deadspin article here. For analysis of the reports, I recommend Maury Brown's work over at Business of Baseball:
The documents that detail 2007 and 2008 for the Pirates, Mariners, Rays, Pirates and 2008, 2009 for the Marlins and Angels are, simply by volume, the largest collection of sensitive financial documents that have ever been released to the public during the Selig tenure; maybe ever.
And now for some of the juicy bits of the reports. According to Maury's analysis...
- The Rays turned a net profit in both 2007 and 2008 - $11M in 2007 and $4M in 2008.
- The Rays received $35-39M in revenue sharing each year.
- Postseason revenue really helped the Rays in 2008, bringing in $17.6M.
- Television and radio revenues brought the Rays around $13M each season. I wonder if the switch the Sun Sports has changed those numbers the last few years.
- With their low attendance, the Rays pulled in $3.4M in concessions in 2007. That number increased dramatically to $9.5M in 2008.
- The Rays spend heavily on player development, allocating around $20M each year for scouting, player development, and the running of their minor league teams.
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Got Friedman'd on TV/Radio revenues.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Which brings me to a conversation kericr and I were having earlier...
This team should buy Sun Sports or at least create their own broadcast network. They’re absolutely getting hosed on TV/Radio revenue.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, its turrble. I realize that the Ms have that whole Japan thing, but even the Pirates have a sweet deal.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I've been saying the same thing too
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 23, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
If the Rays had a TV network
You could lump the Lightning+USF into there to have lots of programming & build the network up.
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by Transplanted on Aug 23, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, people love the Lightning.
fartnoise
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Debateable.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather watch the Lightning lose
Than have to sit through someone trying to sell me real estate
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by Transplanted on Aug 23, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Or one of 8 different fishing shows.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I would rather (and have!) watch Pretty Little Liars reruns over the Lightning.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
BUT THEY ARE NOT ON THE RAY NETWORK
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by Transplanted on Aug 23, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Synergistic programming possibility.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Shut your blood hole.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
"shut your blood fuckhole"
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not so vulgar.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
"f-hole"
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
The idea is if they bought Sun Sports, they'd already have a programming lineup in place.
The only thing they’d have to deal with are a handful of Marlins games getting broadcasted on their channel. I don’t imagine buying the team would be cheap however, it’s owned by Fox and Rays games are driving ratings through the roof. They may need to go the ‘start their own station’ route instead, especially if they’re going to continue seeing 100,000+ people tuning into games nightly.
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by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think any Marlins games are being broadcast on there...
maybe one or two at the beginning of the season were
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by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 23, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
Seriously interesting stuff.
Part of me is disappointed Minnesota’s info wasn’t leaked. Obviously this stuff isn’t SUPPOSED to be public, but it does make me curious.
This is only part 1.
After part 2 comes out I was thinking about doing my best to dig in to the Rays as well as other team’s financials. May even tab the girlfriend to help as she’s an accountant/auditor, and I’ve taken all of 1 accounting class.
But it was a WAKE accounting class.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
THEY MADE $4M IN 2008? AND WE LET CLIFF FLOYD WALK AWAY? WE HAD THE $$$$$
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Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Wonder what concert expenses are.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't realize the franchise fees were so high.
Almost 50 million a year.
Tv and Radio proceeds aught to go up this year, their ratings this year have been much higher than in the past. I’m not sure how the contracts work but Sun and Fox sports aught to cough up some more dough if the rays ratings stay this high.
The only thing it would boost is the price the Rays would have to pay to purchase the TV rights from FOX.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Leaked? This was not done by accident
and while it does share some revealing numbers, the real profit of the Rays or any other club is under lock and key
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Jew gold. Right.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I do not think that this is an elaborate plan to provide support for their decision not to re-sign CC.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
What is your est on 2010 bottom line for team?
Give StuPot a good chuckle.
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You know he's watching.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Stu: "Boy those fellas over at the DevilRaysBay aught to get a kick out of these phony numbers heh heh heh"
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
He does have a point.
The difference between accounting “profit” and economic “profit” is a big one. The way they amortorize player salaries, capital investments, etc, etc. allows for a lot of “profitibality” to erode at the benefit of the underlying value of the franchise. I.E. investing in to the ballpark making it worth more is written off the bottom line.
The numbers were not leaked on purpose.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure but its not phony
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Sting like a bee.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like someone isn't getting an invite to your post-seasons super-bomb
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
And within GAAP
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
yep--but as you and i both know the lower the profit--the lower the tax
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Why is it within GAAP? These aren't filed number and their not for any official use. I agree with SF1, this whole thing seems fishy
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, I can't read Deadspin right now
Someone e-mailed me the Rays docs. From my understanding there were several teams released.
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Pittsburgh, LA Angels, Florida, and the Rays
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't see why the docs would be purposely leaked. What does that do?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
They can plead poverty, it will help in stadium discussions, arb hearings, etc.
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
But what is the point NOW?
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
It's all about the November rail ballot, man.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Off season coming, good time to stir up consternation, etc
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Those two losses in Oakland proved we ain't belong in October.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
So they release it during a pennant chase so it doesn't look like they have an agenda?
That’s some crafty shit, if true. Still don’t think it is. What is the connection between the teams whose docs got released? These owners all conspired together to have their records leaked at the exact same time?
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Let's go to the chalkboard!
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Don Zimmer is Deep Coma Throat
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
This was good
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
"Leaked documents" is a tactic used all the time, you guys aren't really this naive?
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
All of those other teams have brand new or practically brand new stadiums, toppah. What is the point? Why this collection?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
There are any number of reasons for teams to plead poverty
To get rulings in their favor in arb cases
To drive down FA costs
To easy local taxation
I’m not familiar with the municipal fights in those cities or any of their situations, but its never bad to have people think you make less money than you do
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
And 26 other teams disagreed.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Its not like it has to be a group decision, those teams that didn't release still get the ancillary benefits of people thinking the MLB is struggling
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Then why not just publish these figures every year? Is that against MLB policy? (i honestly dont know)
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
MLB won't publish any figures, its part of their anti-trust exemption and cryptic internal workings
That’s why these are “leaked”
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Was anyone out there thinking that the Rays were just swimming in money before this, though?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe many people do think this
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Sad, but true
But hey, just make the playoffs every year and they can sustain a 50M payroll
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by Transplanted on Aug 23, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
People that make important legislation decisions?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
As I've said a million times, the Rays make money.
Its probably not as much as Stew & Co. could make with their investments elsewhere, but they do get to own a baseball team, so that’s the trade-off
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
What
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Leaked documents by 5 teams at once is like saying JFK was shot by Frankenstein and Ronald McDonald.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
This is both an intelligent point and very constructive, thank you EF
Why don’t you get to work on the daveh thing
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
:-/
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Why would the other teams leak their numbers?
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 23, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Mariners, not angels
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by Steve Slowinski on Aug 23, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
http://deadspin.com/5619239/los-angeles-angels-of-anaheim-financial-documents//gallery/1
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah, missed the Angels somehow
But the Mariners are included as well.
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by Steve Slowinski on Aug 23, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Not officially released, they were "leaked." Nothing gets leaked that isn't on purpose
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
And if it's on purpose, then why would they abide by GAAP? It's a "publicity document"
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't they not abide by the GAAP anyway?
The MLB kinda runs its own show right?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
That's true, there wouldn't really be any reason to abide by GAAP if all documents are internal
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Basically this right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%93Oxley_Act
They don’t abide by SOX so…..
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
Who the hell are you and what have you done with SRQ?
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Last 2 semesters
It was easy but boring as hell.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
At some bullshit public college, though.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Sarbanes is for public companies IIRC, but there are standards for any private companies.
What I don’t know is if the shadowy anti-trust exemption gets the teams out from having any kind of realistic reporting.
When Nintendo bought the Mariners, they had to form a US-Only subsidiary to own the team because Japanese law says they have to disclose asset value, and MLB wouldn’t let them do it.
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting. Forgot about the thing about the M's and Nintendo having to form US-Only subsidiary...
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
*SRQ puffs his bubble-pipe*
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point, and one I have wondered about as well.
The other issue is the nature of the “internal memos” and what their purpose was.
remember a few years ago it was reported the NYY lost $50 million dollars
in a year they went deep into the playoffs and drew 4 mm
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When you spend 200M
That can happen
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by Transplanted on Aug 23, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly--and while any Accounting 101 student knows, this is done often
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Get this: “Old man doesn’t trust Jew owners” (stop). Print that on page one (stop).
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Hey jackass--where do i mention 'Jew' anywhere in my post?
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Hit a nerve eh? I didn't think they worked...
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I only box you.
And I like the pep you display today.
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SCRAPPIN
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Random thing I just saw on your twitter
But you tweeted that Jason Nix has a higher wOBA than Carlos Pena?
Nix’s wOBA: .317
Pena’s wOBA: .344
by benderbrodriguez on Aug 23, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
SINCE JUNE 1ST
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he compared splits vs LHP?
Nix being a righty and all
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not quite certain how that makes wOBA a flawed stat
Everyone agrees that Pena’s season numbers are down across the board, and Nix has a higher OPS and a significantly higher slugging percentage during that time and so I don’t see how that makes wOBA a bad stat. I think it’s more a statement to the fact that Nix has been swinging a hot bat for about a month.
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Poor application of a good stat?
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 23, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Like FIP and James Shields.
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Bingo.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Those documents confirm
that making the World Series is essentially worth on the close order of $20MM in net revenue: see here.
I’ve been saying for a while that if the Rays make the World Series, the chances that CC stays here in 2011 and beyond go up significantly.
Not really
Unless going from about 1% to 5% is significant. I guess you could count it that way
by benderbrodriguez on Aug 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Because making an extra $6-10M one season off-sets a long-term deal worth tens of millions?
If they were guaranteed a playoff spot every season for the next seven years, then yes, I’d agree with you.
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by Steve Slowinski on Aug 23, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Question!
Page 1 on Deadspin for the Rays. WTF is the “Franchise Fee……” Is it still what they paid when they joined the league and are just chipping away at it? If so that going away would help right?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
And then they can stay in St. Pete!
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 23, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Rays paid $130 mil to join league.
Probably still paying that.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
You pay a yearly fee to exist as a team I believe
That’s how Fast Food makes so much money
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by Transplanted on Aug 23, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah ok. Makes sense
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
but 47 mil is a shit load
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
It's not like they're some small business
They probably get some of it back though
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by Transplanted on Aug 23, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends on the fast food company
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 23, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
If there was improved revenue sharing within baseball
would the Rays be getting more shared revenue to maintain costs?
They’ve currently got a luxury tax type system in place now, right? Are there other types of revenue sharing plans that would increase revenue for smaller market/poorer teams?
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It's a luxury tax in name only. In reality, it's a 'screw the Yankees' tax.
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by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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Posted by (ndk) on 08/23/2010 at 03:09 pm.
WELFARE QUEENS!!! They are operating on public property, paid for by public taxes taken from the commons. They should turn all profits over to the city – until they purchase their own field(s).






















