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AFL Players, Xavier Hernandez, and Other Minor Notes

*Per Stacy Long, the first Rays invites to the Arizona Fall League were extended to Henry Wrigley, Jeremy Hall, and the Cuban trio of Leslie Anderson, Jose Ruiz, and Sergio Espinosa.

  • *I profiled the late-blooming Wrigley earlier this season in The Cautionary Tale of the Talented Mr. Wrigley. After a quick start upon his mid-season promotion to AA Montgomery, Wrigley slowed down and has posted a line of .243/.280/.406 with the Biscuits. Wrigley belted 12 home runs in Class A+, and has added 7 more since the promotion. Wrigley seems like a good candidate to be this year's Nevin Ashley, another late offensive bloomer with a solid defensive reputation who hit his stride in the offensive climate of the AFL.
  • *Leslie Anderson is likely to be in the running for a major league job next year. The 28-year-old 1B/COF has put up a slash of .329/.365/.400 in 74 plate appearances since being promoted to AAA Durham. Wrigley and Anderson seem to have hacker mentalitys with low strikeout and walk rates.
  • *Jose Ruiz tore up the Dominican Summer League before being promoted to Montgomery. 25-year-old first-baseman profiles as a true slugger, but has had a rough start to his adjustment to more advanced pitching. In 51 plate appearances he has a slash of .156/.235/.178 but has only struck out 17.6% of the time. With a 21.6% line drive rate, it seems has had some BABIP-infused bad luck.
  • *Sergio Espinosa is a 24-year-old southpaw reliever who spent much of the season with the Buscuits. Espinosa has an uninspiring FIP of 4.34, but has posted a 2.61 vs. LHB. His groundball rate is just south of 50% but he strikes out less than 6 per nine innings. His K:BB ratio vs right-handed bats is less than two.
  • *Jeremy Hall turns 26 in September. A flyball starting pitcher, Hall won 14 games last season for the Stone Crabs. He didn't share the same fortune with the Biscuits in 2010, and also has K:BB less than 2. Hall's season highlight was setting a new team consecutive scoreless inning streak with 35 shutout frames in a row.
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*Sad news as Durham pitching coach Xavier Hernandez announced he is leaving the organization after a six-year run. David Price, Jeff Niemann, Wade Davis, Jeremy Hellickson, and Mitch Talbot are some of the names Hernandez has helped develop during his time in the organization. Hernandez spent two years with the Biscuits, followed by four with Durham. He accepted a position as assistant coach at Houston Baptist which is closer to home.

*21 year-old right-hander Jake Thompson was promoted from Hudson Valley to Class A+ Charlotte. The 2010 2nd round pick of the Rays out of Long Beach State struck out 33 while walking just 6 in 40 innings for the Renegades.

*26 year old ground-baller Richard De Los Santos set a Durham team record for wins with 14.

*One Durham Bull who quietly has had an excellent season is the "Lord of the Springs" Elliot Johnson. The switch-hitting utility man now 26 and out of options, did not make the 25-man roster out of Spring Training leading to him clearing waivers. Johnson decided to stick around with Durham on a minor lague deal. Now in his fourth AAA season with the club, the athletic Johnson has shown real improvements at the plate.

BB%

K%

BA

OBP

SLG

ISO

wOBA

2007

8.2%

30.0%

     0.207

0.285

0.341

0.134

0.288

2008

7.7%

26.9%

     0.261

0.322

0.424

0.163

0.336

2009

6.5%

24.0%

     0.262

0.319

0.451

0.189

0.345

2010

8.2%

21.7%

     0.315

0.376

0.476

0.160

0.384

The walk and strikeouts numbers jump out as a real sign of improvement this season. His slash lines also represent career highs. Johnson stole 26 bases, good for fifth in the International League while only being thrown out four times. As far as his wOBA, its good for fourth in the IL behind three slugging first basemen. Not too shabby for a guy who can play middle infield and switch-hit. Joe Maddon has raved about Elliot's athleticism in the past.  It would be great to see Johnson have the chance to be a reserve infielder on the Rays next season.

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Losing Hernandez is a blow to the organization.

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by Tommy Rancel on Aug 26, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

3rd'd

So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

by kericr on Aug 26, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mentioned this yesterday, but Luke Bailey has had a heckuva month.

Is there any credence to the idea that Desmond is suffering from prospect fatigue?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions

by PlayOnWords on Aug 26, 2010 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

So has Glassman

and in an OT i mentioned the crazy streak Guevara has been on, with one exception

In his last 10 games 389 BA with….389 OBP—0 BB

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by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, you did.
I mentioned this yesterday, but Luke Bailey has had a heckuva month. Is there any credence to the idea that Desmond is suffering from prospect fatigue?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions

by PlayOnWords on Aug 26, 2010 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
So has Glassman and in an OT i mentioned the crazy streak Guevara has been on, with one exception

In his last 10 games 389 BA with….389 OBP—0 BB

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by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions

by rglass44 on Aug 26, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Phil Wunderlich

Best prospect no one is talking about.

How can you have any pudding if you haven`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...

by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Aug 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll see

The guy will really need to keep on hitting to be a prospect. As a college senior all-american, he SHOULD be tearing up the league he’s in. The question is whether he’ll still be able to hit up in AA and AAA, especially considering that all reports say he’s a butcher in the field.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddon
“We’ve had so many mini-conversations about him, because athletically, he’s everything you’re looking for. On top of that, he’s a switch-hitter and he’s got power, and he’s playing all these positions.”

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 26, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmmmmm

Must have missed that.

Still think he’s a 4-A player. Maybe he can be a dec util man though with his flexibility and decent power/speed/patience combo. Not sure where he fits next year unless there are some moves made. I guess it fits in to your trade Upton, let CC walk, get rid of Aybar agenda. Replace with Ruggz and Helliot. I think I notice a trend…

by rglass44 on Aug 26, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Elliot Johnson served as the DH for the 08 AL champs.

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by Tommy Rancel on Aug 26, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm assuming Bartlett and Kapler are gone

That leaves you with Reid, SRod, and Zo as MIF. With a decent chance Aybar is gone, there could be a spot. He can also chip in on the OF. Given the Rays love of flexibility he is more attractive than Ruggs.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 26, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not too different from Jaso and Zobrist

Heck Brignac posted his best AAA RC+ last year at 102. Since 08, Johnson has been 105, 113, 140 in Durham. Obviously he doesn’t have close to Briggy’s glove, but he has been okay at the plate for a MIF.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 26, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's interesting, but how are the others with the top AAA wOBAs?

Apart from FF this year the rest of the top 10 is seemingly all 4-a types.

by rglass44 on Aug 26, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Other Leaders north of .350 Elliots 26 and at .387

Pedroia .364 Age 23 2006
Upton .360 Age 21 2006
Bixler .361 Age 24 2007
Ransom .360 Age 32 2008
Bixler .354 Age 26 2009
Dlugach .351 Age 26 2009

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 26, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The examples you used are of guys with GREAT command of the strike-zone which I haven't seen from Johnson.

Obvioulsy we’ll see, but I have a hard time thinking he’ll be much more than a Nick Green, Brooks Conrad, etc. Scrappy, white MIF that does a few things OK but nothing well enough that you HAVE to have on your roster. I think he’s nice injury insurance, but not much more.

by rglass44 on Aug 26, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't say have to have

Said he deserves a crack at the utility job

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 26, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as we're talking minors i see Matt Bush is pitching again

What’s his projections for ’11?

Also i thought Sale and Vettison were going to GCL but i haven’t seen them in the box

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by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Its nice Bush made it through the season with no personal issues

It will be interesting to see what becomes of him in 2011. He’s got a live arm and relievers can move through the system faster than starters.

Charlotte houses the Crabs, GCL team and XST. They are most likely just working out at this stage. There is a chance they may see some at-bats before the end of the season.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 26, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't Bush be Rule 5 eligible this year if he's not put on the roster?

I don’t see that happening. I wonder if someone would gamble that he just gets injured a lot and has a live arm, so they take him.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Beckham question

Drafted in ’08 and signed rather wuickly playing for PCN

Assuming that year doen’t count toward anything and assuming he makes it to the MLB at the start of ’13 when will his arby1 year be?

Also how many years after drafting a HS player can a MLB team keep him assuming he doesn’t sign an extension?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Arb years just have to do with service time

He didn’t get a major league deal, and he was 17 when he was drafted, so he doesn’t even need to get added to the 40-man roster (and thus won’t use up any options) until after the 2013 season. Once he’s up, he’ll need either 3 years of service time or to be a super 2 (which the Rays are good at avoiding) until he hits ARB1. Thus, assuming your facts, and assuming that the team keeps him down for a few weeks to avoid losing a year of arb, he wouldn’t be ARB1 eligible until as late as 2017, potentially, assuming he’s not riding the elevator between the major league club and Durham.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And in terms of how many years they can keep him

Depends on the age at which the player was signed. MLB teams can keep a player who was 17 or younger when signed for 6 years before they become Rule 5 eligible, and 7 years before they become a free agent. For all other players, it’s 5 years and 6 years. That’s just the time of team control before they need to be added to the major league roster. Once they’re on the roster, they can be optioned down three times, so you could theoretically keep them in the minors for an additional three years. And then you retain the player until you get 6 years of major league service time (time actually on the 25-man roster, excluding September).

So if everything is dragged out to the maximum, the team could control a kid who was 17 when he signed for up to 16 years, if (a) he’s not added to the roster before Rule 5 eligibility and doesn’t get taken in the Rule 5 draft and (b) he’s sent down for all three option years.

That said, usually it’s not nearly that long, and at the end of the day, you still only get 6 years of major league service time.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Minor League Splits

Eliot has a OBP/SLG/BABIP slash:

.377/.473/.386

Using their normalize for luck algorithm, we get:

.354/.442/.352

Or the difference between an .850 OPS and an .800 OPS. His career BABIP seems to be .330, but he’s hitting 5% more line drives this year.

That said, I’d love to see Johnson have a shot to displace Aybar.

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by BWoodrum on Aug 26, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Alex Cobb

113 Ks in 107.2 innings. 1.58 GO/AO. 55% GB rate.

Discuss.

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by Imperialism32 on Aug 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

3.43 FIP according to MLS

(here) with a normalish 9% HR/FB. That’s pretty good. I’m for putting him on the Durham train.

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by BWoodrum on Aug 26, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather not waste a 40-man spot on Helliot

Other than a reduced strikeout rate, there’s little in his stats to indicate that he’s just having a year with a flukey high number of line drives. The walks number is within his career norms, although at the high range. He becomes a free agent at the end of the year unless the team adds him to the 40-man roster. If he wants to resign here and have a chance at a spot, then great, but I’d rather not need to carry him on the roster all offseason, reducing our flexibility to make other moves. At the end of the day, he’s still not a major league player, even if the improvement is real.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Also

Keep in mind that E. J. lives in Durham in the offseason, too, with his wife and kid, so he’d have incentive to re-up as an NRI and play for the Bulls again.

by Sobsey on Aug 26, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

In the worst case scenario, he gets to play at home and still makes more money than he would at whatever day job he’d otherwise get.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt think MILB guys made all that much

But either way its still his best career choice unles he has other marketable skills

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 26, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

IIRC, a AAA ballplayer still makes about $50,000 a year

And that goes up with experience. Not horrible for a gig that only takes 7 months out of the year. It’s not like Johnson went to college or anything (and I’m not 100% sure if he even graduated high school).

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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

One source says $2150 a month, but it’s usually higher than that after the first year in AAA. Another source says the average is about $50,000. I guess ‘average’ could be skewed significantly by guys who are signed to big minor league contracts with the hopes they could be called up to the bigs. If it’s only about $2500 a month though, that’s not too great.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Durham v Gwinett tonight on Brighthouse Sports channel

Should get a chance to see McGee tonight. He usually pitches every other game.

by raysrule44 on Aug 26, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

so Matt Moore is good at pitching

so far tonight

6 innings 3 h 0 r 1 bb 10 K

this was his start to the game

Jupiter Top of the 1st
    * Daniel Pertusati strikes out swinging.
    * Emilio Ontiveros strikes out swinging.
    * Jake Smolinski flies out to center fielder Isaias Velasquez.
Jupiter Top of the 2nd
    * Ben Lasater strikes out on foul tip.
    * Ernesto Manzanillo strikes out swinging.
    * Miguel Fermin strikes out swinging.
Jupiter Top of the 3rd
    * Eddie Rodriguez grounds out, shortstop Tim Beckham to first baseman Michael Sheridan.
    * Sequoyah Stonecipher strikes out swinging.
    * Alfredo Lopez singles on a fly ball to right fielder Kyeong Kang.
    * Daniel Pertusati called out on strikes.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 26, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw him pitch twice this year.

One stadium had a gun and he was at 95 regularly. Good sharp curve, lots of swings and misses. I counted at least 20 both times.

by raysrule44 on Aug 26, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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