Shields Leads Rays Past Red Sox; Increase Wild Card Lead to 6.5 Games
No matter how beat up they are, the Red Sox never disappoint. The first two games in this series were incredible to watch - baseball at its finest - and last night was no different. Going into the night, despite the Red Sox being down 5.5 games in the division, it felt like a playoff game. Tension was in the air, emotions were running high, and all eyes were on Tampa vs. Boston. These are the games that I live to watch.
With expectations set high, the Red Sox and Rays didn't disappoint. Both Lackey and Shields cruised through the first three frames, only allowing a handful of hits while striking out multiple batters, but then ran into some trouble during the next three innings. Carlos Pena drove in the first run of the night with a solo homerun to rightfield in the fourth, and then the Red Sox put two runs across in the fifth inning by stringing together a double, walk, and two singles. The Rays went back ahead in the sixth inning, tying the game with a two-run homerun by Carl Crawford and then taking the lead with a single from Dan "The Sox Killer" Johnson. That was all the offense the Rays would need, but they tacked on an insurance run in the seventh on an Evan Longoria single, scoring John Jaso from second base.
Despite the final number of earned runs he allowed (three), James Shields had a great start last night. Six and two-thirds innings pitched, one walk, eight strikeouts, and only seven hits allowed...none of which were homeruns. In fact, Shields has only allowed one homerun in his last 24.2 innings pitched, his longest streak of the season of allowing one or fewer homeruns. He kept the ball low in the zone tonight, working down and on the outside corner of the plate (for righties) for the most part. He also generated a lot of swinging strikes, getting batters to whiff at 9.3% of his total pitches and 30% (!!!) of the curveballs he threw. Shields's curveball had great movement last night and he used it heavily in the later portion of his start, keeping the Red Sox off-balance their second time through the order.
Normally Shields's change-up is nice money pitch, but last night he used his curveball almost as often as his change-up and got even better results with it. Shields also generated some swinging strikes with his fastballs (four-seam, two-seam, and cutter), something that doesn't happen too frequently. If he keeps throwing this well, he's going to quickly work himself back into the discussion for the Rays' first postseason starter.
Other Thoughts:
- Rafael Soriano may have gotten the save last night, but Joaquin Benoit's performance in the eighth inning may have been even more important. Benoit got Victor Martinez and David Ortiz to ground out, and then got Adrian Beltre to fly out to center. Once the heart of the order was done, Soriano had an easy job in the ninth.
- BJ Upton made a great catch out in left-center in the ninth to save a hit from dropping in. He didn't have to dive and he didn't make it look especially difficult, but he covered a huge swath of the outfield just to get to the ball. Impressive.
- ESPN really needed to stop harping on the attendance last night. If you want to have a discussion about why the game only drew 23,400 fans, at least make it an honest discussion and include all the contributing variables - stadium location, local recession, time of the game, market size, etc. To harp on attendance without discussing these variables gives the disingenuous impression that the Tampa-St. Pete area is a bad baseball town. Please, that debate is so 2008.
- On this date in 1951, Bobby Thompson's New York Giants were 6 games back of the Brooklyn Dodgers. In their remaining 29 games, the Giants went 22-7 (.759 W%) and the Dodgers went 16-15 (.516 W%). Similarly, if the Rays were to go 16-16 over their remaining games, Boston would need to go 22-9 (.709 W%) to tie. It's mathematically possible for the Sox to come back, but it'd be damn historic.
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Great win. We'll see them again pretty soon.
I hope we can go 4-2 over these next six games.
by sattp on Aug 29, 2010 11:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's a shame Carlos Pena is a good bloke
If that was me heading to home plate, Martinez would have been carried off on a stretcher after what he did yesterday. I’m still pissed off about that. No wonder the Boston fans are like they are. The players are worse.
What is the difference between a catfish and the Boston Red Sox?
One is a bottom dwelling scum sucker and the other is a fish !!
Gabe Krapler has the THIRD best job in the world !!
by AUSSIExRULES on Aug 30, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He spiked him in the groin, I'm satisfied with the payback.
If this works, I want the copywrite and patent on the statistic.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 30, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
aha, I just made a comparison to the 51 Dodgers in the game thread...
while it’s comfortable for the Rays to get 2 out of 3 and ensure they maintain a 6-game lead on the BoSox, there’s still a whole month to go.
What’s worse, we don’t want Boston to get horrifically bad down the stretch. We do want Boston to make life miserable for the Yankees at the end of the season…
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Am i happy we won? Hell yes
Am i embarrassed by saying i live in TB? Hell yes
Only the Royals at Indians in the AL drew less people—That fucking stinks
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Crawford's going to be a free agent at the end of the year, too
Without him, the Rays will go down the drain and nobody will want to attend the games.
I heard it on ESPN so it must be true.
Nicknames for Benoit-Soriano? How about ‘one and done’ describing the length of time they’re likely to be Rays
by sternfan1 on Jul 25, 2010 4:01 AM PDT
It's Sunday night for a game that was originally scheduled for an afternoon game and Thunderstorms around
They still drew 23,438 to the game. For the 3 game series they averaged just under 30k a game. And for one of the smallest markets in the league and a badly placed stadium that pretty damn good. You’re just pissed they took 2 out of 3
They're the best team in MLB, playing in a dome v BOS
and breaking news, a thunderstorm erupts in central FL in August
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sunday = family day
it would have been close to capacity if the families had gone to the game but it is a school night and the people might not have wanted to stay out til 11pm + the drive home
Its clea that most of the tickets were sold out to all the family people, but couldnt bring their kids because of a school night.
So anybody else who came to the door had to be turned away
yep.
there's a new one, and if that is true, which it isn't they'd announce the "sold out" numbers
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Wow
You do realize that they play in a dome that’s great. But do you also realize that you have to drove to and from the dome?
"They're the best team in MLB"
Ehhhhhh, you’re not allowed to use this in favor of any of your arguments.
If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
and you're obviously a newbie, cause anyone that knows me here knows i freakin despise Red Sox
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its beating a dead horse, but its still true
blame it on whatever you want, but the current set up cannot work. Rays have put together best team possible even going beyond means to make this a magical season and they have produced…given the area the best team in baseball to watch. And they can’t get even average attendance.
Don’t give me this school night bullshit. It’s a school night at every other damn city as well. There’s always excuses. Bottom line, this season seals the deal that it isn’t a put a winning product on the field and people will come issue. It’s a this area, at this stadium location, cannot produce enough people to give the Rays even average attendance.
by raysfaninminnesota on Aug 30, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
You'd be surprised how much moving the game time from 1:40 to 8:10 matters
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 30, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
for a rival game against Boston, with potential playoff implications?
shouldn’t matter at all. If you can’t show up for this game, you won’t show up for any game. If this game didn’t bring people in, I can only imagine how bad it would be if Baltimore was the opponent and not Boston.
Don’t have to sell out. But if you can’t even produce MLB average, that’s just sad.
by raysfaninminnesota on Aug 30, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Last Sunday game @ Home
They drew almost 30k vs Baltimore. The time is a big factor when you’re stuck in a lousy location.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 30, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
i stand corrected
and you are probably 100% right. Weekend attendance typically isn’t the problem. It’s weekday. and yes there’s school and yes there’s work, but if you can’t be average, then maybe this area just isn’t big enough/right dynamics to be an MLB town.
by raysfaninminnesota on Aug 30, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah I totally agree
Weekday attendance is a huge problem. Afternoon games have done decent, but the night ones are tough. A lot of people from the Tampa area are probably turned off by the commute because of work.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 30, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Die hard fans probably made it anyway
But couldn’t bring their families, which they would have if the game had stayed at 1:40. Those extra family members count for attendance, you know.
by Not Whole View Gang survivor on Aug 30, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Rays fans can't carry the attendance by themselves. I remember the days when 15,000 Red Sox fans would show up
It was well less than that. You can’t displace all those people in one season.
If this works, I want the copywrite and patent on the statistic.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 30, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
don't hurt yourself reaching for that strawman
glad you can find the loss in the victory
by HG Pennypacker on Aug 30, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't be unnecessarily petulant. The storms and the 8pm start time were huge factors. About half the party I was going with didn't attend and they had free tickets.
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 30, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
folks, it just shouldn't be this hard to be average
you have every right to do what you want with your money and time. But if the area cannot produce MLB average attendance, you can’t expect to field a consistently competitive team. And if you can’t get MLB average attendance for this team, then when can you?
If its the location of the stadium or whatever, fine. It just means that people (not here, but in general) need to stop bitching about the need for a new stadium. If this doesn’t show the need, I don’t know what else does.
by raysfaninminnesota on Aug 30, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
"If its the location of the stadium or whatever, fine. It just means that people (not here, but in general) need to stop bitching about the need for a new stadium."
I’d argue the opposite. If it’s the stadium location, then people should bitching about attendance and start pushing more support behind a new stadium.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.
by Steve Slowinski on Aug 30, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
oh i agree with you
i meant stop bitching against the Rays needing a new stadium. Either put the team in position to receive league average attendance, or let them go somewhere else that can provide that.
by raysfaninminnesota on Aug 30, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
You mean the stay @ the Trop until 2027 club
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 30, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Thankfully Bud isn't going away until 2012
If there’s one thing he’s good at, it’s new stadiums.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 30, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
you would think if the Rays made it to the World Series for a second time in 3 years
something would get done…not that they haven’t shown enough already.
by raysfaninminnesota on Aug 30, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Marlins have won 2WS in first 10yrs
And they didn’t get anywhere until 2008. It’s a tough process.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 30, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Don'y reply to my comment with your inanity please
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 30, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
'Don't' either
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 30, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and I'd be more embarrassed by
“Let me go on record in predicting a Sox sweep” – SF1
by HG Pennypacker on Aug 30, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
6-4 over the past 10
Not bad vs your 1-9 prediction
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that I really like the attendance discussions, but wanted to add one point
I was at the Yankees – White Sox game yesterday. It was sold out. Why? Because it was Frank Thomas day, they retired his number. So they have an extra sellout averaged in to their numbers. The Rays don’t have days like this, because they don’t have the history (yet). Probably not a huge factor, but a factor nonetheless.
(And yes, there were quite a few Yankee fans, unfortunately we sat in front of one who thought he was super smart but kept getting things wrong when he was telling his family about them. Blegh. But the Rays should get an even greater bump from traveling Yankee fans than the Sox do.)
by ChiBurbRaysFan on Aug 30, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It is a huge factor
I went to the Marlins Braves game on Saturday and was amazed at the number of people that drove from all over Georgia, decked out in Braves gear, that were waiting in line to buy tickets.
This is something the Rays do not have. They do not have a wide-reaching audience across the state. They don’t have the lineage between parents and kids. They also don’t have viable public transportation, which was amazing it Atlanta.
We can point fingers and compare, but the Rays just don’t have the history of other teams. When that begins to build, more people will attend.
Better start saving for your playoff tickets.
Once they go up for sale,they will sell out quickly.
your name won't be on the guest list
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Nicknames for Benoit-Soriano? How about ‘one and done’ describing the length of time they’re likely to be Rays
by sternfan1 on Jul 25, 2010 4:01 AM PDT
OHHHH HO HO WOW
FULL ON DOUBLE RAINBOW ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE SKY…….
UHHHHHH…WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
IT’S SO BRIGHT AND VIVID
UHHHHH UHHHH UHHHH
IT’S SO BEAUTIFUL….(CRYING)
Interesting attendance-related stat
Tampa Bay is actually dead last in MLB in percentage of the house filled when the Rays are on the road. Even as the best team in baseball, an exciting team to watch, etc. — nobody comes to the park to see the Rays. Very strange.
by Not Whole View Gang survivor on Aug 30, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
No historical rivalries I guess
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 30, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
How can you say that about the Citrus Series
For shame.
Nicknames for Benoit-Soriano? How about ‘one and done’ describing the length of time they’re likely to be Rays
by sternfan1 on Jul 25, 2010 4:01 AM PDT
Real talk: that was an awesome game.
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 30, 2010 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
Awesome is right
I feel like we kicked boston to the curb,and can now focus on the yankees.We need that homefield advantage
This was a good attempt, but I think "Postgame Shot of Joe" contains better analysis
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Moment of the game (even moreso than CC's HR):
Pena cleating V-Mart at home plate. I just wish he’d slid a bit harder, but then again he’s still a bit gimpy.
Nicknames for Benoit-Soriano? How about ‘one and done’ describing the length of time they’re likely to be Rays
by sternfan1 on Jul 25, 2010 4:01 AM PDT
OT: Okay, after this game-2nd best piece of news tonight
Antonio Bryant released by the Bengals
Massive LOLZ
PIZZA?!?
I wish I could get paid $8m to lift weights and trash my knees for a month.
Nicknames for Benoit-Soriano? How about ‘one and done’ describing the length of time they’re likely to be Rays
by sternfan1 on Jul 25, 2010 4:01 AM PDT
I've never seen someone released so fast
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 30, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Some people just aren't meant to be in Ohio
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 30, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I still think it's premature for us to assume the Sox are done
Keep in mind that they can unseat either NYC or us. Or either of us could break down. Lots of ways to skin this cat.
Needless to say, I’m happy that we took two of three, but I’m waiting for them to fade a bit more, give up completely, or until the magic number comes into effect.
Keep in mind, MLB is flat out rooting for the Sox to come back, or at least give us a scare. This is how Boston likes it, believe it or not. Scrappy!
If they came back now, it'd be one of the biggest collapses/comebacks in MLB history.
I’m not going to count them out of it, but at the same time I kinda am.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.
by Steve Slowinski on Aug 30, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
We're pretty safe, since we've only 3 more left against Boston
NYY is far from safe, since that last week could really affect. Yankees’ last chunk of games is beastly. Same with Boston-they still have a West Coast road trip.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Aug 30, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Choate's K was huge in the 7th
especially with Shields getting those 2 outs before. Made it so it was just Benoit and Soriano for the end.
love it love it love it
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by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
Shields has been good all season.
Toronto and Florida game notwithstanding, easily our second best SP.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 30, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
its the elephant in the room and its crazy that it hasnt been properly addressed
I went to the game Sunday night and I thought the crowd was decent but not impressive, they were however pumped I had flash backs of 2008. It is unbelievable that the rays/tampa goverment think that long term or even over the next 5 years can survive in that location or building. I can only imagine how much better attendance would be if they were located off of i4 or 75. Take the kids to busch gardens then catch a night game. I catch 10-15 games a year and that would triple if I didn’t have to drive all the way to the beaches. People from orlando will drive an hour but two is crazy. Its sad they are such a great product but are stuck in a tin can on an island 1-3 hours from tons of there fanbase.
by slak96u on Aug 30, 2010 3:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
and i still cant believe big game didnt put one into v-marts back.
Biggest disapointment of the night. But heckling him about his foot from the out field while he was warming up and getting the fuck you face was the highlight.
by slak96u on Aug 30, 2010 3:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But it has been properly addressed.
“Baseball in downtown St. Pete is not a viable option for the future.” Or something to that effect. Stu’s on this. It’s ridiculous people still think this isn’t being taken care of.
If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
Most of the time i block it out and pay attention only to what's happening on the field
but last night really unnerved me, to think a game of this magnitude was so poorly supported
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It wasn't that big of a game. Dropping 2 of three to the Sox at home would've sucked but it would have still been just one game they gained on us.
And you really can’t ignore the time change and poor weather. Not to mention it was a school night.
With all this complaining about it, were you even there?
If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
When games against BOS are considered mundane it's time to take up gardening
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I say again:
With all this complaining about it, were you even there?
If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
true i did almost die driving to the game
Rain was so bad I was doing 45 on 175. However I think it was a big series, it basicly told the sox “its not gonna happen” as far as playoff hopes.
by slak96u on Aug 30, 2010 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dear Sir
I am glad you enjoyed the Rays game.Do not let the stadium issue interfere with your enjoyment.The local gov and the Rays are addressing the issue of location.The Rays will play at the dome for the next 5 years because that is at least how long it will take to make a change.
The dome is not a tin can,it is a comfortable building to watch a game.
The reason it is located where it is,is because the beaches paid for the dome with a hotel bed tax.They wanted tourists to attend the games and enhance the industry.
There is nothing sad about the situation.The leaders of our community at the time the dome was built,were very courageouse and many paid a political price for their decision.If this building did not exist we would not be having a conversation about the Rays.
This issue has been addressed on this site properly
Dont call me sir i work for a living
Talk is cheap and so far all I’ve seen is statements and rumors. Putting a stadium near Busch Gardens and the Hard Rock is a no brainer to me. I will continue to go to games but I’m in the minority in a untapped area of 2 million residents.
by slak96u on Aug 30, 2010 5:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the trop is NOT an hour from BG unless you drive like a senile old person. 30 min unless it's rush hour, possibly less if you are competent at the wheel.
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When I lived on campus at USF
It took me 35 minutes to drive home by feather sound, and I drove really fast. Going an extra 10 miles, plus having to deal with parking traffic, isn’t going to take only a half hour. Once you take the line for parking into account, an hour is about right.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I'm not going 100 over the bridge, but there are plenty of places to park other than the main lot (and much cheaper)
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Do you drive an F1 car?
There is no way that is a thirty minute drive.
by firemangreg on Aug 30, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Tip of the cap to Yields, after giving up the lead in the 5th he really put it together in the 7th and got two quivk outs, where the pen took over
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Accounting for his batted ball peripherals still being well over his career averages, this is probably Shields' best season
xFIP is sympathetic to him as well. I like how confidently he’s using the curve ball. That was rated has his best pitch as a prospect, before the change-up emerged.
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Aug 30, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Another huge part of the win
Is that we clinched the season series now that we lead 10-5. So a seven-game lead in the loss column is now really eight. A tie at the end of the season is not good enough for Boston. 16-16 means they’d have to go 23-8, not 22-9. That’s big.
by TBdiehard on Aug 30, 2010 8:08 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
We have the best record
in the ALE ,against teams in the ALE.
We have the best record against all 3 divisions
by Jason Collette on Aug 30, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
but we suck against the NL
so this means there is no chance we will win even if we make it to the world series
It's ok, Gabe Kapler is the secret weapon
He will hit at least 2 HR in every game against an NL lefty.
by ChiBurbRaysFan on Aug 30, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
2 HR per AB
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I hate interleague play
It is screwing up the AL East and Central races right now making them a lot closer than either should be.
by Jason Collette on Aug 30, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think this makes any sense.
So what if the Rays had their slump against some AL teams instead? Or the White Sox had their great run against some AL teams? If anything this would make things worse for the Rays and better for the White Sox. Better to let some NL teams benefit from it than competitors for playoff spots in the AL.
You can’t just claim neither streak would have happened if there was no interleague. If anything, the Rays should have played better against the NL, but they didn’t, and here we are.
by ChiBurbRaysFan on Aug 30, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
On the attendance for contending teams.
I was surprised to see that both San Diego and Cincinnati are reporting average attendance of ~26,000/game. Out of the 3 metro areas, Tampa-St. Pete-Clearwater is at 12% unemployment. Those other 2 markets are 10.5% and 10%. The economy is definitely a major factor.
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Aug 30, 2010 8:35 AM EDT reply actions
Sox fans have THE BEST fans
Yup. We’re toast. I’ll still watch, though.
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by Bloggy on Aug 30, 2010 8:31 AM EDT reply actions
that Is a controdictoin If its over why are you watching? What’s the point?
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 30, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Haddad is an arab name, all arabs are terrorists. At least some Indians are hilarious tech support geeks with mustaches and fake talk-shows
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 18, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
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bestbostonsports is a retarded poster, and was rightfully b& from DRB.
So I should just change my sig to
I hate everyone of color, along with invalids, the old, and the retarded?
by firemangreg on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
controdictoin
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
PPA
If there was a stat for playoff probability added factoring score margin, base-out state, inning, and standing implications, Dan Johnson would have to be near the franchise all-time leaders.
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FFS
We are not a small market. We are a mid-sized market. With the 3rd largest combined TV market in the county (TB-ORL). Our continuous pummeling of this subject, both here, at the bar, at the water cooler, at the dinner table, on the radio, in print, on TV, has done nothing but entrench excuses in the casual fanbase. “Oh yeah, the stadium IS too far. I’ll just chill at home, in my drawers, ready with a rebuttal to any accusations of lackadaisical fandom.”
IS it too far? Probably. At this point in the season, it shouldn’t matter as much. But we’ve protested ourselves into a hole.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
How was Boizao?
start an ottotd so we can talk about it
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 18, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Aug 30, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
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i'll tweet that prick right now
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 30, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
THIS
ESPN needs to be held accountable for bad journalism. Allowing your broadcast crew to go on constant tangents about attendance without hard facts, context, or any real insight is not responsible or entertaining. I expect them to mention it, but every inning?
by BibleDinosaurs on Aug 30, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
What - make ESPN stick to facts?
How many times did Jon Miller say “Jays” instead of “Rays”? How much did they harp on “Boston is not dead yeat” without putting the start numbers out there of just how good the Sox would have to play to get the WC? How often did they harp on the Rays batting (although they did mention the Rays are #3 in runs scored, but it had utter disgust in the way the said it)?
Did they mention that after the 12-20 stretch that followed the 32-12 start, the Rays are now 36-18?
As for the attendence, yes it’s a dead horse. But I think we might have to face facts that this is a football town, and if the crappy Bucs garner more attention than playoff caliber baseball it might not bode well for the future of this team here. Sad, and I hope not true, but there’s far more buzz it seems for crappy pre-season football than what the Rays have been doing all season. Something is wrong with that…
by tampa_edski on Aug 30, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I loved the point that Joe Morgan made that the Rays starters match up well with Boston, but most other team's won't
so Boston should go on a run here. He didn’t take that the next obvious step, which is that if the Boston’s starters are good enough to go on a roll, and the Rays starters match up well, then it’s likely that they, too, will go on a roll.
If this works, I want the copywrite and patent on the statistic.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 30, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Fill in the blank:
“there’s far more buzz it seems for crappy pre-season football than what the ________ have been doing all season”
a) Reds
b) Braves
c) Rangers
d) Rays
e) all the above
I’m guessing baseball being second-fiddle to football (pro and/or college) isn’t unique to the Tampa area or the state of Florida. I don’t know of any head-to-head ratings measure or way to quantify “buzz”, but being a football town is hardly unique nor does it preclude the area from supporting baseball.
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good point
I guess I just love a couple dying sports (I am an avid hockey fan, too)…or at least sports that are fading from the general conciousness.
I like football, but the over-saturation of discussion about every little fucking detail is getting old, and frankly turning me off to it. This is the 1st year of my life (I’m going on 45 soon) that I’m more interested in the coming college football season than the pro season. Part of that is that the Bucs stink, but a more important part is that I feel like there’s no “off-season” for the NFL anymore, and the jubilation that I hear around me – “FOOTBALL IS BACK!!! EVEN IF IT’S ONLY PRESEAON, THANK GOD!!!!” strikes me as disingenuous at best, and downright disturbing at worst. What – the constant chatter about the draft and training camps since February wasn’t enough???
I’m just a bitter baseball fan I guess. Really hoping that the NFL has a lock-out next year…
to expand a little bit on this
I won’t harp on this because as PlayOnWords noted, it only fuels the fire. However, I feel this site is full of locals, thus there is less risk of perpetuating a negative view of attendence…
The context is what I get upset about. The Tampa-St. Petersburg metropolitan area ranks as one of the highest unemployment rates in the entire country. The mean income is far less than that of New York or Boston. Folks watch the game on TV because they either can’t afford tickets (as cheap as they may be) or they are working second jobs to try to make ends meet. This is not an excuse, it’s a statistical fact.
Now, I don’t need ESPN spouting off socio-economic explanations, I know that’s way beyond them. However, they could just call the ball game, talk about stats, pressing MLB news, and maybe the occasional short anicdote, when applicaple. That’s what they’re paid to do. If they wanted to comment so heavily on the attendance issue, they should take the time to do their journalistic homework. I’m sick of ESPN’s monopoly being an excuse for poor broadcasting. The channel’s idea of a newsworthy story is typically a tweet or some other garbage. Let’s not forget a huge bias towards large markets.
Ironically, the Tampa St. Pete media market size ranks number 13 among all US cities, and that’s not including Orlando. So really, they are missing out on a huge demographic who is too poor to go out to games, but all too eager to follow their team on TV. ESPN is shooting themselves in the foot by downplaying the Tampa Bay Rays.
by BibleDinosaurs on Aug 30, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
much rather watch the game with Florida Fox Sports commentators!
right on about those Sportscenter commentators. how lame. made me turn the volume down – also they got all excited every time the Red Sox made plays or runs. like they hated to see the Rays win.





















