Official September Call-ups Thread.
by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 3:17 PM EDT
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**UPDATE**
r_j_anderson 08/27/10 Tampa Bay Rays transferred LHP J.P. Howell from the 15-Day disabled list to the 60-Day disabled list.
This should open up a spot on the 40 for someone (Hawpe?).
***UPDATE 3:57pm***
SPTimesRays #Rays to call up Baldelli, Navarro, Hellickson and Jennings on Sept. 1, plus Lobaton who's headed to DL.
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im confused.
what was jp doing on the 15 day dl?
go away percival
By keeping him on the DL (whether it be 15 or 60) and the 40-man roster...
The Rays are able to swap him for a player of the same position after the September 1st deadline and have them be eligible for the playoff roster.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I meant
he was supposed to come off about now…if he stays on the DL it means another fielder can be added to the post season roster. Or so I understand…
We don't know yet.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
So, can the Rays add Hawpe to the 40 man roster (and thus the 25 man roster) after today's game without having to make a corrosponding 25 man move?
Teams don’t technically have to set the roster at 25 until before their next game, right?
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
probably not Aybar as he hits lefties better than righties
DJ and Hawpe are redundant – maybe its DJ to the DL. Or maybe a reliever to the DL, so that the loser of the DJ/Hawpe battle goes back to the minors when Balfour returns. Reliever not all that needed since McGee, Hellickson, etc will be coming up for Sept callups anyway.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
Bah. My posts keep lagging.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
Putting JP on the 60 day has nothing to do with Hawpe
Here’s how i see it—Hawpe up today—Sonny down
After Sep 1 McGee up and gets playoff spot with JP move
Remember the move of a player to the 60 day, has to be replaced by a player of the same position
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i don't see how you bring up McGee for playoff roster before Hellickson
lefty schmeifty, Hellickson is your ace in the hole and emergency playoff starter if need be
You can have them both.
All the J.P. thing means is that McGee doesn’t have to be on the 25-man roster tonight.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
But if they both come up post-September 1, how do you get them both on?
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy.
Sonnanstine down, one of them up. Sonnanstine comes back in a week, no option used.
Then the other up for Howell.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
So then the Sonnanstine move would have to happen after the game before midnight, right?
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 31, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
Players have to be either on the 25-man, DLed, or have a DL exception waiting to happen (i.e. Howell, maybe Kapler/Lobaton).
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
So no Sonnanstine on the post-season roster
Shields Price Garza Niemann rotation
Bullpen of Hellickson, McGee, Balfour, Wheeler, Qualls, Choate, Benoit, Soriano
with Davis and Cormier dis-activated.
12 pitchers? Does that seem right?
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 31, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Lobaton has to be up tonight by midnight for that to work.
Otherwise him to the 60D just clears a 40-man spot, not a playoff spot.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Kapler for Jennings would work
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 31, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you put cormier (if possible) or Sonny on DL, Bring up Hawpe
then send either Hawpe or DJ back down when Balfour comes back. Hellickson is called up today to be on playoff roster to replace JP. McGee, Jennings, etc brought up as roster fillers for September
Neither Hawpe or DJ can be sent back down.
They’d have to be DFA’d.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
UPDATE
SPTimesRays
#Rays to call up Baldelli, Navarro, Hellickson and Jennings on Sept. 1, plus Lobaton who’s headed to DL.
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What's the point of calling up Lobaton?
And lulz @ Rocco. Good for him.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
So they can pull the DL swap with a position player.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
So they can call up someone and immediately put him on the DL?
That’s handy.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
Without having to clear a 25 man spot I mean.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
So to summarize:
Howell —> 60-day —> McGee
Lobaton —> DL —> Hawpe?
Baldelli —> ML
Navarro —> ML
Jennings —> ML
Hellickson —> ML
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes sense.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
Something to this effect.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So then Jennings, Hellickson, Baldelli, and Navi are not eligible for postseason roster?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Hawpe too.
But I don’t see a scenario that both Hawpe and Baldelli are on the post-season roster.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see a scenario where Baldelli is on the postseason roster
Hawpe and DJ likely battling for a spot down the stretch
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Isn't Lobaton on the 40 man?
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. So if Labaton goes on the 60-day DL they can add one of those guys.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
I think.
This is confusing.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
But it has to be another C.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
No, just position player
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 31, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay. Joe said he wanted a pinch runner. So that could be Des.
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a position player.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if/how McGee and Hellickson will get on the post-season roster
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 31, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If Lobaton is coming up tomorrow, which is what the tweet implies
Then it won’t matter to the playoff roster at all.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
But to the 40-man it will.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Well:
One NL exec on trade market: “The only active team that hasn’t seemed to find a fit is Tampa Bay.” Could #Rays add a bat today?
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
YES THEY CAN
AND HIS NAME IS ELIJAH DUKES
We’d get so many kids off every game it was great.
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by putupyourDUKES on Aug 31, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No since no one can find him...
love it love it love it
i hate one person more than Pap smear—his name is bin laden
by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
we need to hunt him down!
We’d get so many kids off every game it was great.
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by putupyourDUKES on Aug 31, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If all those baby mamas can't find em. You won't be able to.
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by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
He's in RJ's basement
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
So everyone on this blog's parents
are out-of-state?
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Aug 31, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
More from Mr. Topkin
SPTimesRays
#Rays will also add Hawpe, not sure yet if Balfour will be activated from DL.
No mention of McGee?
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Not yet. He's probably the frontrunner for the Howell DL swap-spot.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
McGee probably up in a few days, taking Howell's 60-man spot
That or they DL Aybar (not in the lineup vs. LH tonight), Brignac or something for 15 days.
They have to wade through all these arcane procedural moves to get the guys they want.
Could they not just DL him after the game?
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 31, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
They could. That could be why he's not in the lineup tonight.
That hammy is feeling a little tender.
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not wait until after the game then?
Would they be screwed by a game going past midnight?
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 31, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
So best guess is stay tuned
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Worth noting: Balfour doesn't have to be activated today to be on the playoff roster.
Being on the DL is good enough from what I gather.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what i thought too, but wasn't sure of
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SOooo..
If someone is called up today, they can play in the Post-Season. If they are called up tomorrow during the September Call-Ups then they are not eligible for the Playoffs.
But if a player goes on the 60-day DL, then the team can put the player on the Playoff roster regardless when he gets called up ala David Price.
by ExploreWithAnOpenMind on Aug 31, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
I mean
I know that if a player goes on the 60 day DL then a playoff roster spot opens up
by ExploreWithAnOpenMind on Aug 31, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
Basically Hellickson and Hawpe definitely playoff-eligible
…and when all’s said and done, probably McGee too.
There's always the chance Sonny or Cormier go to the DL.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"sonne, we need McGee, time to wrestle hickey"
We’d get so many kids off every game it was great.
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by putupyourDUKES on Aug 31, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So I don't have to ask here, has anyone written on eligibility lately?
If I read it right, eligible players are those on the 25-man, as well one additional person on the 40-man for each person on the 60 day DL?
At this point in the season does it matter if you put someone on a 15 day or 60 day.
Also, doesn’t MLB frown on “wrongly” designating folks to the DL?
I ran into some unclear language about this.
I don’t think it matters, but not 100% sure.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. That helps.
So anyone on the DL and anyone on the 25 man at midnight tonight is eligible. As well as one person on the 40 man for every person on the 60 day.
can the BP hit leftys?
not counting sonne
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by putupyourDUKES on Aug 31, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
So to get Hellickson and McGee on, we're most likely going to need Rowdy Roddy Jim Hickey to pull through for us here?
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Or send Sonnanstine down
or just cut Lance Cormier, honestly.
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 31, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 31, 2010 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
mmmmm
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by EminenceFront on Aug 31, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what i like to hear
i’ve got a feeling about that kid
by LukeBaileysaStud on Aug 31, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
somewhat relevant article
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/albert_chen/08/31/jeremy.hellickson/index.html
seems pretty unlikely that he will have any starts for the rest of the season (or postseason for that matter)…. right?
620 says Hawpe up not Lobaton
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by sternfan1 on Aug 21, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
by PlayOnWords on Aug 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Key with Lobaton is timing.
If he comes up tonight and goes on the DL, then he can be used as a pawn to get Hawpe on the playoff roster. Tomorrow? Just to get Rocco on the 40-man.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
if you are bringing lobaton up just to get hawpe on the roster
why not just call up hawpe?? Why waste a move…hawpe being called up tonight makes him eligible too right? Seems like an extra step not needed
Because they need two 40-man spots and they only have one open.
DLing Lobaton means they lose nobody on waivers and doesn’t require much more paperwork.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love to see Wade, Amaro, Saben, etc try to manage all this noise.
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 18, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Aug 31, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions
so as of now, the Rays still have playoff roster flexibility by sending down sonny
still have Howell’s spot which can go to Hellickson, and Rocco could replace Kapler if he made his way to the 60 day.
McGee will probably get some seasoning in September and challenge for a spot in the 2011 pen? That’s at least the look of it now.
by raysfaninminnesota on Aug 31, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
Just to clarify for me-
Howell’s spot could go to any pitcher. Kapler’s could go to any fielder.
So we have today’s 25 man plus 2 players to fill those spots I mention above?
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