The Rays' DH Belongs to Dan Johnson
It's certainly no secret the Rays have not had great production from their designated hitter (DH) position. Consider this chart of morbid reality:
| Split | G | PA | AB | HR | SB | CS | OBP | SLG | OPS ▾ | BAbip | tOPS+ | sOPS+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| as 3B | 133 | 591 | 516 | 20 | 15 | 5 | .374 | .514 | .888 | .340 | 139 | 134 |
| as LF | 133 | 597 | 539 | 16 | 38 | 9 | .343 | .456 | .799 | .316 | 116 | 108 |
| as 2B | 133 | 539 | 472 | 17 | 16 | 6 | .339 | .445 | .784 | .318 | 112 | 115 |
| as PH | 78 | 121 | 103 | 3 | 2 | 0 | .347 | .427 | .774 | .319 | 110 | 136 |
| as 1B | 133 | 571 | 465 | 27 | 5 | 1 | .343 | .415 | .758 | .227 | 105 | 88 |
| as CF | 133 | 565 | 493 | 14 | 43 | 7 | .321 | .394 | .714 | .288 | 94 | 96 |
| as RF | 133 | 537 | 455 | 9 | 15 | 5 | .343 | .360 | .704 | .287 | 92 | 81 |
| as DH | 124 | 521 | 461 | 10 | 5 | 1 | .312 | .371 | .683 | .299 | 85 | 84 |
| as C | 133 | 533 | 453 | 7 | 3 | 1 | .329 | .325 | .653 | .267 | 79 | 88 |
| as SS | 133 | 558 | 492 | 3 | 11 | 6 | .320 | .329 | .649 | .302 | 77 | 87 |
The most damning element of this chart is how the DH -- a position supposedly reserved for men who live by their bat alone -- has a team-worst .312 on-base percentage (OBP).
On-base plus slugging (OPS) undersells the affect of this problem. OPS has a critical flaw -- it adds OBP and slugging (SLG) as though their denominators were the same. In fact, we all learned in elementary school that we cannot do this: 1/2 + 1/3, before we do some other calculations. OPS scoffs at that logic and brazenly pushes OBP and SLG together like two puzzle pieces in the hands of a four-year-old. (wOBA circumvents this problem entirely.)
So we see, on the previous table, that DH is right next to the right fielders (RF) and we think -- well, hey, that looks like RF is just as much of a problem! But in truth, the RFers have combined for above average OBP and above average defense -- which DHers can't offer.
In truth, our DH position has been worse than the chart indicates. So, going into this final stretch of the season and into the playoffs, what should we do with this position? I say: Give it to Dan Johnson. Let's explore why.
Essentially the DH race is down to two players: Dan Johnson and the recently acquired Brad Hawpe. The Rays acquired Hawpe after he was designated for assignment by the Rockies. This certainly came as a bit of a surprise to me -- perhaps because I do not follow the Rockies. Since 2006, Hawpe had put up consistently strong numbers. He hit an average of about 25 home runs from 2006 through 2009 and averaged a weighted on-base percentage (wOBA) of around .380 -- or ~25% above league average. Specifically, his OBP was excellent (~.380) and his power was above average (~.500 SLG).
What happened this year that the Rockies would bail on him? In short, he went from ~25% above average to ~0% above average overnight. wOBA from StatCorner shows the sudden descent:
| Brad Hawpe | ||||||||
| Year | Team | Level | PA | wOBA | wOBA* | wOBA+ | wOBAr | WAR |
| 2004 | COL | MLB | 118 | *0.304 | ||||
| 2005 | COL | MLB | 351 | *0.329 | ||||
| 2006 | COL | MLB | 575 | *0.376 | ||||
| 2007 | COL | MLB | 606 | 0.396 | 0.392 | 116 | 0.386 | 4.2 |
| 2008 | COL | MLB | 569 | 0.386 | 0.382 | 115 | 0.380 | 3.7 |
| 2009 | COL | MLB | 588 | 0.392 | 0.389 | 117 | 0.376 | 4.2 |
| 2010 | --- | MLB | 304 | 0.330 | 0.324 | 99 | 0.333 | 0.6 |
(Courtesy of StatCorner and *Fangraphs.)
Not only did Brad Hawpe's wOBA fall off a cliff, his wOBAr began a steady descent. wOBAr -- which I believe stands for wOBA regressed -- is a predictive statistic which helps us guess how a player has performed despite his outcomes. According to the StatCorner glossary, wOBAr is based on batted ball data:
[wOBAr] is wOBA, but with the hitter's success on batted balls regressed toward his prior averages. League averages are used when the sample size is too small. In [effect], it's PrOPS, but with a player's past history used as the baseline when possible instead of the league...
wOBAr does not smile on Hawpe this season, though it seemed to accurately predict his previous, strong performances. Interestingly, Hawpe's batted ball data is unchanged -- according to both Fangraphs and StatCorner (sites which use different batted ball data). Hawpe's batted ball data has been a picture of consistency, hitting 20-22% line drives every year since 2006.
So what does wOBAr dislike about Hawpe? In short, his un-Hawpe-like discipline:
| Brad Hawpe | ||||||||||
| Season | Team | O-Swing% | Z-Swing% | Swing% | O-Contact% | Z-Contact% | Contact% | Zone% | F-Strike% | SwStr% |
| 2004 | Rockies | 17.8% | 79.8% | 51.7% | 42.4% | 71.4% | 66.8% | 54.7% | 61.9% | 16.0% |
| 2005 | Rockies | 17.9% | 72.8% | 45.9% | 55.4% | 80.4% | 75.6% | 51.0% | 56.7% | 11.4% |
| 2006 | Rockies | 21.8% | 73.3% | 47.4% | 47.8% | 81.9% | 74.0% | 49.6% | 58.4% | 12.0% |
| 2007 | Rockies | 21.7% | 74.7% | 48.1% | 50.4% | 76.6% | 70.7% | 49.9% | 60.4% | 13.8% |
| 2008 | Rockies | 23.7% | 73.5% | 48.2% | 52.0% | 78.9% | 72.2% | 49.4% | 62.5% | 13.1% |
| 2009 | Rockies | 22.4% | 73.4% | 46.8% | 53.4% | 77.5% | 71.5% | 47.9% | 60.5% | 13.1% |
| 2010 | 2 Teams | 25.8% | 74.3% | 47.3% | 61.5% | 78.7% | 73.5% | 44.5% | 58.0% | 12.4% |
| 2010 | Lg Ave | 29.2% | 64.4% | 45.6% | 66.7% | 88.2% | 80.9% | 46.7% | 58.9% | 8.4% |
| Total | - - - | 22.1% | 73.9% | 47.6% | 52.4% | 78.6% | 72.4% | 49.1% | 59.8% | 12.9% |
(Courtesy of Fangraphs.)
Hawpe is swinging more at pitches outside the zone (O-Swing%), and pitchers have obliged his new approach by throwing him garbage out of the zone (Zone%). This seems almost like the habits of player who is pressing -- someone struggling with an injury or worried about job security. Either way, there's a good chance -- since he's still hitting line-drives and fly balls at his career rates -- he could turn it around with some more time.
Dan Johnson on the other hand, has received wOBAr's blessings:
| Dan Johnson | ||||||||
| Year | Team | Level | PA | wOBA | wOBA* | wOBA+ | wOBAr | WAR |
| 2004 | OAK | AAA | ||||||
| 2005 | OAK | MLB | 434 | *0.348 | ||||
| 2006 | OAK | MLB | 331 | *0.308 | ||||
| 2007 | OAK | MLB | 495 | 0.351 | 0.356 | 104 | 0.393 | 1.3 |
| 2008 | --- | MLB | 29 | 0.302 | 0.313 | 93 | 0.380 | -0.0 |
| 2009 | --- | NPB | ||||||
| 2010 | TBA | MLB | 71 | 0.339 | 0.343 | 103 | 0.393 | 0.1 |
(Courtesy of StatCorner and *Fangraphs.)
It's important to understand that Dan Johnson has not had much of a chance to showcase his talents thus far. It seems likes he has been up with the club, playing and watching pitches all year, but in truth, he's really only had a sliver of playing time. By comparison's, Hawpe has earned nearly a half season-worth of data:
In other words, our data of Johnson at the MLB level is anything but complete or sufficient. That being said, the early signs are good. His wOBAr matches his career best (StatCorner does not have statistics from before 2007) despite that his BABIP (batting average on balls in play) is an absurd .179. In the minors in 2008 and 2010, he average a BABIP around .300, and his current Dutton xBABIP is .304 -- implying he has been quite unlucky in his first 70 PAs.
At the same time, though, Hawpe has a career BABIP of .338, but is enduring a .314 BABIP in 2010. His Dutton xBABIP is .337, indicating he has also been a bit unlucky.
Certainly this is an issue where larger swathes of data would benefit us -- as most issues tend to be. But from what we can ascertain, it seems that:
- Brad Hawpe has been unlucky and may be pressing because of it, and...
- Hawpe could therefore turn around at a moment's notice.
- Dan Johnson has not culled much playing time this season, but...
- Johnson appears to be doing really well through the lens of wOBAr or an xBABIP regression.
(Note that the R-squared for Johnson's regression is so small because of the 0 in year 2009. It aught to be closer to 0.80 or higher.)
So why do I feel that the DH position belongs to Dan Johnson? Here are my reasons in lightning-round, bulleted fashion:
- Hawpe may need some time to re-adjust his approach at the plate. We do not have free time right now.
- Hawpe may be sliding into mediocrity, whereas Johnson has be crushing the ball for the last two years in the minors (2008 and 2010).
- More importantly, Hawpe is adjusting to not only the DH position -- which hurts production -- but also to the American League East -- which kills production. Johnson has spent at least a little time in both positions.
- We have incomplete data on Johnson, but more complete data on Hawpe. I think it would serve the Rays well to explore whether Johnson is a commodity or a replacement player.
- Johnson could be a cheap stop-gap next year or later as we wait for Leslie Anderson -- or whoever will take over first base/DH when Pena is gone. I expect Hawpe will command more money than Johnson.
- Dan Johnson seems like a really nice guy and -- boy -- has he hit some memorable home runs.
- Johnson seems to have gone through a lot of crap to earn a second shot at the bigs.
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None of the Above answer? When you’re having to break out that type of argument for who should be DH, it’s a sad, sad day.
Seriously, the Rays DH position is still a mess. All the contenders knew it, that’s why there was all kinds of blocking going on. I have to figure the Rays are going to go with who’s hot at the end of the season. DJ, Hawpe, Aybar, and probably Rocco will all get the chance to prove their points over the next few weeks.
Also, keep this mind. The Rays had access to the same data about Hawpe and Johnson that you do and they still chose to sign Hawpe and get him a roster spot. I think he has the lead track….
Oh yeah, Dan Johnson still should play all 3 games in Fenway next week.
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Argh! Yes, I totally, but forgot, to put "Other" as a choice.
Also, I want to make it clear that I thoroughly applaud the signing of Hawpe. I think he’s a proto-typical Friedman’d acquisition. I just feel more strongly that DJo should get his shot.
And yes, our DH is still pretty much a mess. I don’t think DJo or Hawpe will be making any future All-Star appearances. I just wanted analyze the two main assets we already had on the roster.
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A mess is an understatement
At the end of the season, the Rays may only have had worse DH production than SEA.
PIZZA?!?
I assume you mean "better."
I agree that it has been a mess, but I also think we currently have the best two options we’ve had since the beginning of the year in Hawpe and Johnson (also, if Baldelli starts hitting lefties, that could be pretty nice).
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Yeah, I really massacred that sentence lol
It’s probably part of the reason why the Rays are considered challenged offensively. All the other good teams have some form of DH. Rays are running out an 8-man line up almost.
PIZZA?!?
I think it speaks volumes of our pitcher and our other hitters
to be able to compete with an NL lineup every day.
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Doesn't count our excellent baserunning though
by PGP on Sep 3, 2010 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is baserunning quantified anywhere (outside of SB/CS)?
I thought Bill James did something with it…
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On BA they use TAz which includes some baserunning elements.
I’m not sure how or what exactly.
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EBqRR is good.
It includes advancements based on multiple categories (air, ground, passed ball/wild pitches, and other stuff like that).
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 3, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That's also an excellent idea, but it means Navi's got to bat.
I don’t think I could stomach too much of that.
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Wow, I hate Navi's bat as much at the next guy...
but, I’ve never called him an “a hole”
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How does that strengthen the lineup except in the area of catcher defense?
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It doesn't.
Johnson’s a better hitter than Navarro by far, and a better baserunner too.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 3, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
wOBA blows, when it applauds getting on base via error as heavily as it does
Give me OPS and leave it at that
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lol
You do realize the ROEs are very nice to get. Not only do they guarantee that you get on base, but they are often even better than an IF single because of the extra bases obtained. Open your mind.
And they're not exactly common.
I doubt any player in their majors has their wOBA shifted dramatically as a result of them.
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by Steve Slowinski on Sep 3, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
ROE=.92, 1B=.90, it hardly matters over one season.
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i hear ya, but it should be an event that punishes the fielder, not rewards the hitter
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on a pop up?
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agree, but it still deflates the stat
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Why?
There is a bit of consistancy involved. A “ROE” skill definitely exists. We count bloop singles for the batter, why not count a hard-hit ball in the hole that forces a bad throw?
2010 top 20:
- NAME ROE PA YEAR
1. Jason Heyward 12 496 2010
2. Ryan Theriot 12 540 2010
3. Delmon Young 9 500 2010
4. Michael Cuddyer 9 563 2010
5. Pablo Sandoval 9 546 2010
6. Torii Hunter 9 520 2010
7. Ty Wigginton 9 531 2010
8. Adam Kennedy 8 350 2010
9. Alberto Callaspo 8 514 2010
10. Carl Crawford 8 544 2010
11. Elvis Andrus 8 582 2010
12. Marlon Byrd 8 533 2010
13. Matt Kemp 8 567 2010
14. Mitch Maier 8 350 2010
15. Placido Polanco 8 488 2010
16. Brandon Phillips 7 568 2010
17. Carlos Pena 7 489 2010
18. Chris Coghlan 7 400 2010
19. Derek Jeter 7 616 2010
20. Hanley Ramirez 7 561 2010
2009:
- NAME ROE PA YEAR
1. Derrek Lee 13 615 2009
2. Cristian Guzman 12 555 2009
3. Matt Kemp 12 667 2009
4. Asdrubal Cabrera 11 581 2009
5. Brendan Harris 11 453 2009
6. Aaron Hill 10 734 2009
7. Dustin Pedroia 10 714 2009
8. Everth Cabrera 10 438 2009
9. Jorge Cantu 10 643 2009
10. Marlon Byrd 10 599 2009
11. Alex Rios 9 633 2009
12. Chone Figgins 9 729 2009
13. Jacoby Ellsbury 9 693 2009
14. James Loney 9 652 2009
15. Jhonny Peralta 9 645 2009
16. Juan Rivera 9 572 2009
17. Kosuke Fukudome 9 603 2009
18. Kurt Suzuki 9 614 2009
19. Nick Markakis 9 711 2009
20. Placido Polanco 9 676 2009
2008:
- NAME ROE PA YEAR
1. Ichiro Suzuki 15 749 2008
2. Corey Hart 14 657 2008
3. Jason Bay 13 670 2008
4. Derek Jeter 12 668 2008
5. Freddy Sanchez 12 608 2008
6. Alexei Ramirez 11 509 2008
7. Cristian Guzman 11 612 2008
8. David Wright 11 736 2008
9. Dustin Pedroia 11 726 2008
10. Willy Taveras 11 538 2008
11. Alex Rios 10 687 2008
12. Brandon Phillips 10 609 2008
13. Edgar Renteria 10 547 2008
14. Akinori Iwamura 9 707 2008
15. Hunter Pence 9 642 2008
16. J.j. Hardy 9 629 2008
17. Jose Castillo 9 455 2008
18. Jose Lopez 9 687 2008
19. Jose Reyes 9 763 2008
20. Randy Winn 9 667 2008
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Even if it was shown to be repeatable (Which I really don't see from above)
I imagine it would be extremely difficult to distinguish (especially with such small sample sizes) whether it was the player or the scorekeeper repeating the ROE.
by GomesSweetGomes on Sep 3, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't see many names repeating on those lists.
And looking at the top ten of 2010 #1-9 have 47 steals and Crawford has 41. Only one of the guys in front of CC has more than 10 steals this year. I’m not saying there is no correlation, only that it doesn’t look like a particularly strong one.
by GomesSweetGomes on Sep 3, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
lol the speed of Panda
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Good luck
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I've done a variety of studies where I used data from BaseballReference.com
which does not include the RBOE statistic. In computing wOBA using that dataset (which was about 10 years worth of data, IIRC), the difference in my wOBA and Fangraphs wOBA was usually 0, but at most .002. It’s genuinely a small effect.
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Moreover, wOBA accurately reflects the true value of each hit type.
SLG uses the bases as discrete values. In other words, SLG suggests that a homer is worth 4x as much as a single and 2x as much as double. These distinctions are arbitrary and not based in the reality of the game.
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Call it shiny new toy syndrome, but give me Hawpe or give me death.
The guy hurt his quad in April and then his ribs in late-June crashing into a wall. I would blame his down season on those things as all his rates are essentially static. Hopefully he can run and the ribcage is intact and we’ve got ourselves a baller. DanJo is a novelty and I like the clutch dingers and walks, but while he was mashing in AAA Hawpe was mashing in MLB.
Also, check out my O’s series preview since I actually had to put thought into this DH post, well done Bradley.
http://dockoftherays.com/2010/09/03/rays-v-os-preview/
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I might be alone on this one but
I’ve called for Jason Bartlett to be the DH a few times on here. Our DH sucks and Joe Maddon insist on keeping JB in the line-up. This way at least our defense is receiving an upgrade and Brignac’s bat in the line-up isn’t really a drop off from anyone else who has tried to DH. I know JB isn’t the prototypical DH but hell who cares at this point.
but Bartlett is going to be in the line-up regardless (the mishun)
and I’d guess Brignac’s is about = to what our DH’s have been doing….and this would improve our defense at a very important position.
I also wouldn’t hate on Deezy full time RF and Joyce at DH for defensive/speed upgrade although Joyce isn’t near the butcher JB is.
I think that's a decent idea if the assumption is that Bartlett MUST be in the lineup.
If that were not the case, he’s been great in his career against LHP, so a DH platoon might not be a terrible idea.
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what about since june 1?
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Stat discrepency?
Fangraphs has Hawpe’s 2010 wOBA at .331 and DJ’s at .324.
So even having a down year, Hawpe has a higher wOBA.
Yes, I noticed this while I was working on it.
StatCorner has different wOBA levels for some reason. It also thinks that — IIRC — DJo had one more walk in 2007 than Fangraphs said he did. I’m not sure the source of the discrepancy, so I deliberately avoided discussing their basic wOBAs.
I would not take too much stock in DJo’s current wOBA, anyway. With ~70 PAs, anything could happen. It’s like saying a movie sucks because the credits are boring.
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I don’t put much stock in much of anything DJ has done this year. But this isn’t his first year in the bigs. You went back to DJ’s 2007 to show he’s trending up but his best season was in 2005. If you include that, the reality is he trending down.
Plus, look at DJ’s splits. His 1.2 OPS against LHP despite being a LHB is a complete fluke. His .560 OPS against RHP with 2x the AB’s is far more telling.
by Jeffrey Borbas on Sep 3, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could have wOBAr data before 2007, but StatCorner doesn't have ANY data before 2007.
So, short of inventing my own regressed wOBA — which might not be too hard — I have to rely on DJo’s current numbers. That’s why I didn’t really make much out of his trend line. Beyond the fact it has a low R-squared, it’s also really incomplete.
The sample size of his 2010 splits, however, are even more egregiously small. If his 2010 season is the opening credits, then his splits are the DVD title menu.
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According to his Minor League Splits page:
vs LHP (97 ABs)
OBP/SLG/BABIP
0.382/0.412/0.254
vs RHP (240 ABs)
0.445/0.679/0.320
Using their luck-neutralizing algorithm, which can sometimes be pretty wrong and sometime pretty right, we get:
vs LHP (97 ABs)
OBP/SLG/BABIP
0.430/0.484/0.342
vs RHP (240 ABs)
0.470/0.719/0.363
Or, in other words, a guy who smashes righties (which is more important anyway) and hits lefties reasonably well. I think its unfair to call his current splits a fluke without first admitting that everything — especially his MLB BABIP — is fluky with only ~70 PAs.
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Don't forget DJs outrageously small babip
by PGP on Sep 3, 2010 3:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You guys at least have to account for Hawpe's injuries wrecking his season

You can see an extremely good start then a flat line from when he missed time with the quad and a complete dropoff then another stagnant period and a complete falloff from when he hurt his ribs. If the guys healthy come the end of September, I want him on out post-season roster.
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Indeed.
There’s also this:

If his quad injury has affected his speed, then it may have affected his BABIP. In terms of both BABIP and wOBA, it looks like he has started settle at around .300. Of course, he could also be bottoming out and turning around — it’s hard to say.
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I think this discourages me more, though.
His batted ball charts:

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*encourages
That is, he looks very similar here to how he performed in ’08, a >.350 wOBA season for him. Which brings me back to plate discipline.
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DanJo draws the start today.
Someone’s paying attention.
If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
I like Hawpe and Johnson alike.
Concerned on how Hawpe translates but pretty excited to find out given the cost.
Over four weeks? Maybe a few runs better than Joyce in RF with Hawpe/Johnson DHing.
That’s assuming Jennings is an absolute demon on the paths and fielding right away and that Joyce can adjust to DH quickly.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 3, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I hadn't even thought of this.
Deezy might even benefit a bit from not being seen before. If the adjustment period swings in his favor it could be a huge boost.
If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
by Vin on Sep 3, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
This might make an interesting study, but I always feel pitchers are more likely to take advantage of the "adjustment period" than hitters.
But that’s just my impression and I’m thinking of plenty of counter-examples now. So…well, who knows.
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by Steve Slowinski on Sep 3, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Maddon could try messing up the lineup card and putting in Andy at the DH spot. Then platooning every player thats on the bench at DH.
I bet Joe would enjoy doing that. Production out of the DH couldn’t get much worse, aslong as Willie isn’t involved I guess. It would be a lot more fun to watch than the Kayem hotdog race.
by slak96u on Sep 4, 2010 4:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
in reality however
I like D.J. However I love Matts odd lightning bolts also(d.J. has that going for him also) but, Matt is a way better base runner…
by slak96u on Sep 4, 2010 4:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I prefer maximizing Joyce's value and leaving him in RF.
Especially if he can get regular playing time there.
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