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Rays Send Matt Gorgen to Diamondbacks to Complete Chad Qualls Trade

From MLB Trade Rumors:

Gorgen, 23, acted as the closer for the Rays' Double-A affiliate in Montgomery this season. In 42 outings, he compiled a 1.65 ERA to go along with 8.6 K/9 and 22 saves.

Prior to the season, Baseball America ranked the right-hander as the 28th-best prospect in Tampa Bay's system, describing him as a "classic hard-charging reliever" who projects as a middle reliever or set-up man in the bigs.

Gorgen was drafted by the Rays in the 16th round of the 2008 draft and since then had climbed steadily through the system. He put up some breathtaking strikeout numbers in 2009 in Advanced Single-A (averaged 1.14  K/9), but he struggled with his command when moving to Double-A. He had a good season this year as Montgomery's closer, but I'm doubtful if Gorgen would ever have developed into a pitcher the Rays used at a major-league level.

The Rays do a great job at churning out pitching prospects and they have a history of finding great bullpen arms for cheap. Considering that the Rays currently have so much bullpen depth that they're letting Winston Abreu waste away in Triple-A, a young relief pitcher needs to be as good as Jake McGee to break into the majors with them. Gorgen was good, but not that good - he's the same age as Jake McGee right now, but has yet to pitch beyond Double-A.

This might seem like a lot to give up for Chad Qualls and his 6.57 ERA / 4.32 FIP with the Rays, but one needs to consider the context. With the Rays' system, Gorgen is replaceable and he served his main purpose: providing solid trade value to acquire players.

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Seems kinda expensive for Qualls

Not that Gorgen was anything special, but we took all the salary and Qualls wasn’t exactly lighting up the NL.

No big deal either way though I guess.

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by Transplanted on Sep 9, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed...it seems a bit odd that he was the choice.

It’s not like Qualls has been lights out over here and we did pick up his salary. But so it goes…he’s not very valuable to the Rays and maybe he’ll get a shot with the D’Backs.

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by Steve Slowinski on Sep 9, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

The Rays got raped in this deal. The only way that this deal makes sense is if Qualls comes back like gangbusters. The D-Backs look to get the better of this deal. They lose a reliever that was having a terrible season and get someone who could make a appearance as a September call-up next year, to say the least.

Blah!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

So we get a major league pitcher who is having an unlucly season

And they get someone who MIGHT be OKAY as a MIDDLE RELIEVER in the NL WEST NEXT SEASON? In my country, we don’t call that ‘rape’

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by staplemaniac on Sep 10, 2010 12:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We get a pitcher who is having an unlucky year

Who is supposed to be a sinkerball thrower who leaves the ball so much in the zone, it invokes images of Brian Stokes. For a guy who has just about dominated at every stop in the minors he has made. For the kind of production that the Rays have gotten in return, we could have have found internally inside our own minors.

You know the Rays trade Rhyne Hughes for 6 weeks of Greg Zuan, give away Evan Meek for nothing, and now trade Gorgan for the second coming of Jay Witasik.

If it’s not rape, then it’s an unwanted fondling.

Blah!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 10, 2010 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zaun turned into a compensatory pick

Which was worth more than Hughes. The same may happen with Qualls. Gorgen’s peripherals took a giant hit in AA, so don’t look solely at his ERA or saves total.

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 10, 2010 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Qualls may be Type B

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by FreeZorilla on Sep 9, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

And I'm sure there's no way he accepts ARB (I'm sure there is a way that he accepts ARB)

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 9, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gorgen 23 and in AA and he's too old

How old was Balfour before he did anything of note in MLB?

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by sternfan1 on Sep 9, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

2003 with the Twins.

Balfour was 25. When Gorgen turns 25, he would still have been behind a slew of better pitchers in the Rays organization.

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by BWoodrum on Sep 10, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

He graduated college IIRC so he was drafted at what, late 21?

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 10, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to point out that Qualls still sports

a career xFIP of 3.50 (3.77 FIP) and a laughable 2010 LOB% of 53.4%. Groundball pitchers like Qualls do not stay at 53%.

I trust Qualls to pitch VERY well moving forward. Please quote me on this matter.

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by BWoodrum on Sep 10, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I do not like this, Sam I Am

That said, you give up something to get something. And you can’t rob the other team every time.

by nomoredevil on Sep 10, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

28th ranked reliever prospect

For a ML groundball pitcher? I’d rather him as our groundball specialist than cormier.

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by staplemaniac on Sep 10, 2010 12:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gorgen isn't even the best prospect named Gorgen, guys.

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by sternfan1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions

by P Brady on Sep 10, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He's better than his twin brother

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by Brickhaus on Sep 10, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Qualls has been useful to the Rays.

He has had 5 ineffective appearances out of 16, although even in a couple of those the ineffectiveness was due to some ground balls sneaking through. He has walked a few more than we would like, but he is getting ground outs and Ks (8 in 11 innings or so I think) and has been a solid bridge to Benoit and Soriano in most outings. If Gorgen works out for Arizona, that is fine, but nothing for Rays fans to be upset about. We have received value for him already.

by bobr on Sep 10, 2010 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Excellent point bobr.

One of the great tragedies is that our rate statistics don’t convey standard deviations or volatility. In other words, if a pitcher gets blown up once out of every 10 games, his rate stats might not convey his effective contributions on the other 9 games.

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by BWoodrum on Sep 10, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have a huge problem with this

As long as later on the team doesn’t have a problem turning otherwise effective starters into relievers (whether by conversion or trade). This team is about to have a hole there, and the only other reliever in the Rays’ system who profiles as a major league regular (that I can think of) is Scott Shuman. Which is fine if you take the normal approach of most of the relievers being guys who started in the minors. It just seems like this front office is reluctant to do so until after a pitcher has already failed as a starter (because there would be higher overall value if they remain a starter), but there are already 5 starters locked up for the next few years but only 2 or 3 relievers.

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by Brickhaus on Sep 10, 2010 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

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