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Why the Rays Have a Shot in 2011: Changing the Narrative

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The post is the first in a two part series about why Rays fans shouldn't despair about the upcoming season: part one focusing on history, and part two on statistics. It's a bit lengthy, but hopefully still worthwhile.

It's only been four years, but we've already forgotten exactly how bad the 2007 Devil Rays were.

Seriously, take another look at that roster. This was a team that lost 96 games - the worst in the majors that year - while letting up 940 runs and only scoring 780. Jason Hammel, Edwin Jackson, and Andy Sonnanstine combined for 67 starts and a 5+ ERA. They weren't the only rotten apples, though: Casey Fossum, Jae Weong Seo, and J.P. Howell started a combined 30 games, posting an average ERA north of seven. Our closer, Alberto Reyes, was viewed as a modicum of stability, yet even he posted a 4.90 ERA. If not for Carlos Pena and B.J. Upton both having monster offensive years, there would have been little point in watching this team.

Going into the 2008 season, there were some small reasons for Rays fans to hope: there had been lots of roster turnover in the winter; Evan Longoria and David Price were well on their way to the majors; and some pre-season projections suggested the Rays could win 90 games. However, most baseball analysts still scoffed at the Rays, writing their favorable projections off as computer blunders. We were never supposed to have a shot at going to the World Series that season.

And now, the same affliction that made analysts write off the 2008 Rays is striking Rays fans too: we're being blinded by the predominating narrative. Baseball is a game that thrives upon stories, from Babe Ruth visiting a sick child in the hospital to the curse on the Cubs to the hope of rebirth rekindled in each Spring. These narratives are intricately wound into baseball and provide context to even the smallest event, making it tough to learn to like baseball if you didn't grow up around it and don't understand the broader narrative.

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Take the example of Spring Training. Come Spring Training, there is new hope for everyone: players are always in the best shape of their lives and perennially losing teams are finally going to compete for the playoffs. I know some analysts have a particular dislike of these stories since they're normally founded on fool's hope, but I actually like them. Seeing pitchers and catchers playing catch again brings us back to our childhood, reminding us of when we had our first catch with our fathers, attended our first ballgame, and had out first hit in Little League. The grass is always greenest in spring, and that's because it's touched by a bit of our memories. If we can believe that this player can turn their career back around, we can also believe it's not impossible for us to live up to our childhood ideals. We'll never be able to crush that hope through logic and stats, nor should we.

However, just because a narrative is enjoyable does not give it any factual authority. In other words, we can enjoy a narrative for what it is, but we should be sure to separate what's "analysis" and what's "narrative". A team can have a disastrous history and the narrative about them can be hopeless, but we shouldn't then pass that narrative off as analysis and fact; to do so is often misleading, and leads to mistakes like saying the 2008 Rays will be a last place team. Predicting the future requires us to remove ourselves from the predominating narratives and to look at the facts in an unbiased way. This is counter-intuitive for most people.

This current off-season had been very tough on Rays fans. We've seen the core group of the 2008-2010 clubs leave, while the team has added mostly prospects and young, unproven players. The narrative about the Rays is that they're in the midst of a fire sale, and will be competing for fourth place in the AL East this season. And on one hand, I can understand the emotion behind the narrative: it's tough to watch all these players leave. We've grown close to Pena and Crawford over the past years, and Soriano ingrained himself with many of us in only one year. But while I've been saddened along with everyone else, I refuse to turn that emotion into analysis. Losing star players is not good, but turnover in and of itself is not a bad thing.

When a team is horrible, fans want to see the whole house burned down and new players and coaches brought it; yet when a team is good, there's a desire to keep everything exactly the way it is ad infinitum. Don't change anything! We might lose! Such an attitude is destined for failure. Have you ever seen a basketball team go on a 15-point run, only to be put on the defensive after their opponent calls a timeout? This is not because the streaking team had their "flow" interrupted: it's because when a team is doing good, there's little motivation to adapt or change strategies. "Things are working great for us now, so why bother changing anything? Stick with the status quo and we'll be fine." While that team is twiddling their thumbs, the opposing team is changing their strategy to counteract the attack and get back on the offensive. And so, there's only one way to achieve continuous success: always keep innovating, always keep changing.

The same can be said of roster construction. Financial constraints aside, what if the Rays had resigned all their old players this off-season? What if they'd given lifetime deals to Pena, Crawford, and Soriano? While that strategy might work decently for one or two seasons, time catches up with all players eventually. Pena was already showing signs of decline this past season, while Soriano has a checkered injury history and Crawford's knees have never agreed with the Trop's turf. By resigning these players, the Rays would have been striving to re-create the magic of the past, instead of trying to create new magic in the future. With a minor league system that was getting shallower, the Rays decided to buck the status quo in order to ensure the team's short-term and long-term competitiveness.

Compare the 2011 Rays' roster with that of the 2008 Rays. Despite all the recent losses, the 2011 Rays stack up quick well to the 2008 team. The pitching staffs are very similar: Kazmir, Shields, Garza, Sonnanstine, and Jackson versus Price, Shields, Niemann, Davis, Hellickson. While the 2008 team has the slight edge based on ERA (Kaz, Shields, and Garza all had sub-four ERAs), their peripheral statistics suggest their talent levels were similar to that of the 2011 Rays starters. The offenses also look similar, with the 2011 Rays have a higher upside than the 2008 club. And if you're worried about the bullpen, remember that the 2008 team had Troy Percival as its closer (4.53 ERA, 5.87 FIP) and allowed Scott Dohmann and Gary Glover to pitch nearly 50 innings combined (5+ ERA, 4.5+ FIP). The current Rays are a darn good team, and can continue to be every bit as competitive as they've been over the past three seasons.

Not only that, but the Rays are built for long-term success. The 2011 Rays are a young team; the average age of the players on their 40-man roster is about 26 years old, and there are only four players on the roster older than 30. Also, with their moves this past off-season, most prospect experts say the Rays currently have the second best farm system in all of baseball, not to mention that the Rays have 10 first round draft picks this year. This team has reinvented itself this off-season, dipping into the mystical Fountain of Youth and coming out all the stronger.

The 2007 wasn't that long ago, but we've repressed the memory, ignoring that part of our franchise's history because it's painful to remember. Yet the lesson of the 2007 team is really one of hope: if that pitiful excuse of a team can blossom into the American League Champions in only one season, then who's to say the 2011 Rays can't be competitive? Narratives are a fun part of baseball, but this is one storyline that doesn't line up with reality. Lament the players we've lost, yet then get ready for a ride. This team isn't going anywhere.

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Nice column

The rotation is rock solid. I think the lineup benefits from the number of rookies and virtual-rookies who contributed last year. In essence, we got the opportunity to start the rebuilding/reloading program (Jaso/Reid/SeanRod) at the same time that the ‘old guard’ was winning the division title.

My biggest concern is with the bullpen. Which, not coincidentally, was also my biggest concern in ‘08. I remember saying to myself in April ’08 — ’you know, we could win 85 games if the ’pen holds up’ — and wondering if I was being crazy optimistic.

So that is the same narrative I am taking into this year. 85 wins will be a success. Anything above that is gravy. But this time, I will not be surprised if they overachieve. After all, we now have a track record of doing so.

by nomoredevil on Jan 17, 2011 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

Don't intend to derail the discussion about the article, but Andruw Jones and the Yanks are nearing a deal.

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Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.

by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 17, 2011 12:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Also

The 2011 Rays aren’t done. If they go into spring training with the current team, my guess is that they’d be projected for ~87 wins (which, as you say, is still a damn good team). They’d be division favorites — or at least in the discussion — anywhere but the AL East.

Now consider that the Rays are uniquely poised to add a cheap DH and possibly trade for a 1B. Last year, the Rays gave 685 plate appearances to Willy Aybar, Pat Burrell, Hank Blalock, Brad Hawpe, Gabe Kapler and Rocco Baldelli — mostly in an effort to fill the DH spot. None of those players had an OPS above .668.

The Rays squandered another 329 PA on Dioner Navarro and Kelly Shoppach at a collective sub-.600 OPS; with Chirinos in the fold, I don’t see that happening in 2011. This team can do a lot better simply by eliminating the suck.

So the bottom line is that there is some cause for optimism with these team offensively. It’s still going to be an uphill climb, but people suggesting the Rays could finish behind the Jays (or even the craptastic Orioles) are either insane or Joe Sheehan (which I guess is both).

by AndrewTorrez on Jan 17, 2011 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly....they're a good team now, and will likely only add a couple more wins over the next few weeks.

But more on that in my next post on this subject….I’m going to get into the projections a bit then. I’d put them around your projections….87-ish WAR right now, but will likely end up around 89-90.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Jan 17, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Even with Chirinos, do you see them releasing Shoppach?

I’d like to hope so, but I also hoped for them not to play him as much last year, and had my hopes dashed with each PA.

by JaxRaysGirl on Jan 17, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

We'll see. My guess right now is that Chirinos starts in Triple-A and the Rays look to trade Shoppach mid-season.

Chirinos only has a brief bit of time at Triple-A anyway, so it wouldn’t be that much of a stretch. I’d love to see him start in the majors….I wouldn’t say it’s out of the question, but he’d need to prove useful as another 1B or DH or some such.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Jan 17, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I see your point, but....

what value (other than defense at the catching position) did Shoppach add to the team? What additional usefulness did he provide? Hopefully, Chirinos will really start performing in AAA and get called up for a couple good games, leading to the release of Shoppach.

by JaxRaysGirl on Jan 17, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He's typically very good against lefties. And he's got pop.

Last season was definitely an off-year for him, though.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Jan 17, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a definitely a "Don't Believe Your Eyes" moment

Because watching Shoppach was painful last year. But seriously, check the numbers — Shoppach hit .261/.369/.455 versus lefties last year.

I know. I can remember the one home run and that’s it. But there you have it.

by AndrewTorrez on Jan 17, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post man

"1 - 2 - Freddy's coming for you, 3 - 4 - Better lock your door, 5 - 6 - Grab your crucifix, 7 - 8 - Better stay up late, 9 - 10 - Never sleep again..."

by Gatorbuc15 on Jan 17, 2011 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

Terrific post

and I want to stress this point you make:

“. And so, there’s only one way to achieve continuous success: always keep innovating, always keep changing.”

I think this is what is difficult for many to accept, that even if a team is good, keeping the status quo is not the way to stay good, and that is particularly true of the Rays who cannot afford to tie themselves into a status quo (with players who may stagnate or decline) for too many years. That means the Rays will continue to lose fan favorites-as indeed they have to in order to remain competitive.

by bobr on Jan 17, 2011 12:57 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

if you are not improving you are declining

and that means getting players who are continuing to build, grow, and improve, and find cheap FA help with high upside. This is the Rays MO. And it’s worked pretty damn good so far. What will be interesting is to see the Rays continue to be successful at it. Take a look at how different the rosters were in 2008 vs 2010. There was a good amount of roster turnover. And now there’s another one, making 2008 look like something of a faded memory. And that’s how it has to be if the Rays are to keep on creating good memories instead of looking back.

It can’t be about how this person or that person helped last year or in 2008, but who can help the most in 2011 and beyond.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jan 17, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. I almost got into a long digression talking about this point, but had to cut it for brevity.

In short, I think this is one of those areas where the emotional, fan mentality screws us over. It’s tough to be a fan and not want to hold onto your favorite players for years and years, but that’s not a good way to stay competitive.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Jan 17, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hence why I'd love a jersey with Friedman's name on the back, or Harrison, or Hunsicker, etc.

They’re every bit as responsible for the team we love to watch. Of course they could just as easily leave too; but the nice part about their process is that it’s not entirely dependent on the minds, however sharp the minds might be. The system is in place – they just probably need some understudies of sort ready to carry on should some of them leave.

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by ramedy on Jan 17, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The 2011 Rays should win 80-90 games, imo...

…depending on how the remaining roster spots are filled, injuries, the development speed of young players, etc. And, as many have stated, things should be even better for 2012.

 Going into 2008, any of us would’ve been ECSTATIC for 80 wins. The bar has been raised, tho, and may the Era of Casey Fossum fade gently into memory.

by zeng8r on Jan 17, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

This is really good, Stevesie. I wish I had more time to chime in, but I'm out the door

Pitching, Defense, & Longoria is not a bad way to go through life, I hope to have time to add more thoughts later.

Hell yeah it is.
Any amount of points can be scored week to week. well, besides 1 point. Any number is as likely to be reached as another, since there’s only one of each number, each has the same chance to be hit. IT’s how the syetemof averages works.
by waltermercier on Sep 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Jan 17, 2011 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

The danger I always forsee is that while there will be significant improvements in some areas

there will also be new, unforseen problems that crop up. Just like non of us last year expected Price, Benoit, Soriano, etc to be as good as they were, we also didn’t expect Pena, Zobrist, Shoppach etc to under perform as much as they did. We can get real excited about full seasons of Brignac, Joyce, and Johnson and the future is bright but there is no way to know if Evan might have a down year, or someone crucial might get injured, or how Price is going to follow up on his steller season, etc.

Just have to hope that the team puts it self in the best position to succeed and that the luck dragons go our way.

by Gareth Rees on Jan 17, 2011 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

I'm going to address all of that in the next post on this...thanks.

Variability is a bitch, and it’s something nobody is inherently good at recognizing. Proper forecasts take that into account, but it’s something that normally gets forgotten. There’s always risk and variability involved in a season, though, so we just have to keep our fingers crossed.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Jan 17, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Biggest variable I see

Is that the Rays got 29+ starts out of their top 5 starters, which is basically unheard of. Last year, they only had to get 4 starts out of their sixth starter (Sonny). That almost never happens, no matter how good your med staff is.

by AndrewTorrez on Jan 17, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

nice post

I truely think our 11 rotation is miles ahead of 08. We also have more depth to fill it if injuries crop up.

I’m really looking forward to this year, we are totally the under dog again and it feels great! Also, no projections factor in manager WAR

by OneTonneBaby on Jan 18, 2011 5:04 AM EST reply actions  

Great read....

    Really really well written. I, too, am hopeful our starters can go long enough…our pen is adequate, and we can get another big bat soon. Still, after watching the Yankees and Red Sox spend spend spend again, I’ve been on a rampage the past week bickering about the fact MLB is shooting itself in the foot. This game USED to be Americana at its finest. So many of us remember the glory days, well before the NFL rose to the forefront. Every single small revenue team is facing David vs Goliath each and every year. I don’t even blame the Yankees or the BoSox for spending what they do. MLB allows it. Period. End of story. And until they impose a TRUE salary cap, the “feel good” stories will be few and far between. They DO exist, which makes them even better…but they are pretty rare. The 08 Rays certainly show that.
     I went to my first MLB game in 1969…a team the majority of this board has never heard of. The Seattle Pilots…they became the Milwaukee Brewers the next year. I LOVE the game of baseball…it’s the greatest sport ever created. But unfortunately, the “business” side has taken its toll.
    Just remember one thing. When owners claim they are losing money…how many have ever opened up their books? As far as I know, the answer is zero. And even if they DID lose yearly revenue, that BUSINESS expense can be written off from the taxes of their other businesses. I suspect it’s fair to say they have plenty of disposable income elsewhere or they wouldn’t be able to buy a team in the first place. What’s more, look what the book value is on all these teams…even the ones “losing” money in their yearly revenue. Would the value be so high if it wasn’t a valuable business? There has NEVER been a team sold for LESS than what was paid…and the value is almost always 20 to 50% more than what was paid. In many cases, over 100% more.
     My point? I forget. Oh…no….got it. Even if attendance is low. Even if the team is bad. Even if ratings are low…owners are lined up to buy MLB teams. Why is that?
      I’ll tell you why…because they are profitable. Either from tv revenues, merchandise, or tax write-offs. Don’t let anyone tell you differently.
      Here’s an interesting link about just how much it costs to run the Yankees.

      http://nymag.com/news/features/2007/profit/32903/

      Anyway, here’s to a great season. Let’s hope we nab Vlad or Manny soon enough…pick up another arm….and watch Desmond, Matt, even Leslie surprise alot of folks. I’ve already bought my Hellickson tshirt….LOVE the guy….let’s just hope the middle relief stint in September didn’t mess with his head.
      Oh yea….it’s gonna rain on Friday.

by psuguy62 on Jan 19, 2011 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

If you remember baseball from the 1970s

and have read any of the histories of baseball, then you know it has always been a business, and for a good part of its history a corrupt business with some teams intentionally acting as farm clubs for the richer teams. And you will also see that year after year some teams, often for a decade or more, start the year with the absolute certainty that they would not compete.

You would also see that some owners sold off their players to stay afloat, in some cases more than once. You would recognize that teams like the Phillies, As, Senators, Browns and others would develop a young player and then sell him to another team so the owner could pocket the money. The misty eyed nostalgia for a time when it was really a game is nonsense, just as the nonsense that players were more interested in the game than in their salaries. That has never been true, and the idiocy spewed by old farts like Vernon Law simply perpetuates the nonsense.

As for salary caps, this is an endlessly discussed “solutions” to a perceived problem that has been critiqued with very credible arguments that it is a typically psychological response that would have more dire effects than good ones and probably would do nothing to balance the competitiveness of teams anyway. All it would do is fill the bank accounts of the fabulously wealthy. What would the Yankees do with the extra $100 million they would have if they could not spend it on salaries? Just sit on it? Invest it elsewhere? Maybe lock up the foreign player market or pay premiums for draftees who would then refuse to sign with the poorer teams knowing they could make it up by waiting for NY to pay up.

by bobr on Jan 20, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

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