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Breaking: Andrew Friedman Seen Dining With Angels Owner Arte Moreno

Update, 3:45pm: This says it all.

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Update, 3:27pm: It took someone from ESPN LA to confirm the story first, but this is now MLBTradeRumor official. Moreno and Friedman met, but who knows what they talked about and how interested Friedman is in the position. My guess is he's simply doing his own due diligence about his options going forward, but only time will tell.

Update, 12:30pm: Radio host Toby David from 1010AM CBS is hearing from his sources that the Angels have been in town for two days, with the intention of interviewing Andrew Friedman. So chalk this up as further corroboration of our original report, although this is the first evidence that the Angels intended to interview Friedman.

Update, 11:53am: Erik Hahmann has independent confirmation from a source within the restaurant that Friedman and Morerno were both there on Tuesday night. That brings us up to three sources that confirm the story (and we're working on four). So we are extremely confident the two of them met, but we have no idea why or what they were talking about.

Original Story: Important bits highlighted here, full post below the jump.

On Tuesday night, one of our readers was at a restaurant in downtown St. Petersburg when he saw Andrew Friedman dining with Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim team owner Arte Moreno and another individual he later identified as team president John Carpino. This individual lives locally so Friedman is no strange face to him, and he immediately recognized Moreno when walking by their table. Both he and the friend he was dining with feel extremely confident in what they saw, and confirmed after another walk-by and an internet search that the third person at the table was team president John Carpino.

We do not know the nature of the conversation between Moreno and Friedman, only that they were seen dining together in St. Petersburg and talked for over an hour and a half. However, the timing does line up well with the Angels' current search for a General Manager, and if both Moreno and Carpino were in St. Pete, that suggests a conversation more serious than a simple offseason chat.

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Here's the original post in full:

Friedman? Friedman? Friedman?

Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this girl who's going out with the guy who saw Andrew pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

We believe we have a strong track record here at DRaysBay when it comes to breaking news. This site was the first to report on the signings of Morgan Ensberg, Gabe Kapler, Willy Aybar, and most recently Kyle Farnsworth. Each report came from tips from sources that we researched as much as possible before breaking the story. We don't run with rumors willy-nilly, and only report the things we hear that check out.

Recently, another one of those tips came in regarding Andrew Friedman. While it does not involve Popeye's fried chicken or Coors Light in the dugout, the Rays' off-season now has a bit of somewhat-substantiated drama involving their General Manager.

On Tuesday night, one of our readers was at a restaurant in downtown St. Petersburg when he saw Andrew Friedman dining with Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim team owner Arte Moreno and another individual he later identified as team president John Carpino. This individual lives locally so Friedman is no strange face to him, and he immediately recognized Moreno when walking by their table. Both he and the friend he was dining with feel extremely confident in what they saw, and confirmed after another walk-by and an internet search that the third person at the table was team president John Carpino.

We do not know the nature of the conversation between Moreno and Friedman, only that they were seen dining together in St. Petersburg and talked for over an hour and a half. However, the timing does line up well with the Angels' current search for a General Manager, and if both Moreno and Carpino were in St. Pete, that suggests a conversation more serious than a simple offseason chat.

Throughout this past season, Rays fans had to put up with copious rumors surrounding the front office -- anywhere from Stu Sternberg selling the Rays to take over his hometown Mets, to Andrew Friedman returning home to Houston to salvage the sinking S.S. Astros or going to Chicago to try fix the mess that is the Cubs. Anyone who has followed the Rays for any amount of time knows that the club operates in stealth; they make the move nobody was looking for when nobody was looking for it, as they play a shell game with other teams and the media.

Up until now, all those those rumors have been based on speculation, and there was no actual indication that anyone within the Rays' organization was testing the market. This report changed things.

Last night, while everyone had their eyes on the World Series, MLBTradeRumors posted a story about the Angels and who they were considering for their General Manager post. Mentioned in the story was the highly qualified Kim Ng, whose name has been in many previous searches but she has yet to become the first ever female to serve the role of General Manager in Major League Baseball. Also mentioned in the article was Jerry Dipoto of the Diamondbacks, Damon Oppenheimer of the Yankees, Thad Levine of the Rangers, Rich Hahn of the White Sox, and internal candidates such as Tony Hernandez who currently serves as Manager of Baseball Operations. Not mentioned in that piece was Andrew Friedman.

Two weeks ago, ESPN.com's Mark Saxon interviewed former Angels GM and current team consultant Bill Stoneman about the vacated GM spot. Saxon flashed back to a conversation that he had with Stoneman in spring training regarding the statistically-driven approach some teams were taking to which Stoneman replied:

When I took a look at the Angels’ use – or lack of interest-- in statistics last spring, I talked to Stoneman about the Moneyball approach. 

"If you're talking about looking at statistics, I can do that myself," Stoneman said. "If I'm going to have someone working for me, I'd rather have someone who can take a look at a guy and tell me if he can play or not."

Saxon went on to say that:

Unless there is a dramatic change in philosophies -- and it’s hard to imagine Stoneman and Scioscia not being heeded by Carpino and owner Arte Moreno;-- look for a more traditional GM to settle into his Angel Stadium suite when it’s all said and done.

Last week, Angels Owner Arte Moreno told Bill Plunkett of the OC Register what he wanted in his next General Manager. 

I think you want a good baseball man – or I should say baseball person because there are some qualified women out there – because you want to be able to evaluate talent," Moreno said. "You also want him to be able to manage a (minor-league) system so you have to look at someone who can evaluate how we're drafting and developing players. And you also want someone with good communication skills.

All we have is visual confirmation of Friedman meeting with at least one and potentially two top executives of another club that has a vacant General Manager role. Friedman certainly fits most of what Moreno is looking for in his next General Manager more than he fits what Stoneman is looking for. Stoneman advises, but the buck stops with Moreno; after witnessing some of the disastrous financial mishaps that Tony Regins brought to his desk, Moreno may be thinking he needs the type of General Manager who has demonstrated a clear ability to remain fiscally responsible while properly valuing both present and future assets.

The Angels were kind enough to allow Joe Maddon to come to St. Pete. Perhaps Friedman is the person to be named later in this imagined deal?

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Yep.

I doubt we’d ever know they gave permission though.

where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you

by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Oct 20, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theoretically.

I can’t see them denying Friedman the ability to look around, though.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would this apply if he wasn't working under contract?

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by kericr on Oct 20, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Stu/Andrew/Matt had handshake contracts?

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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they do

But if it ever came down to it good luck proving/enforcing that agreement…especially considering that this is the type of thing for which a contract is required (in damn near every line of work). That 13th amendment is a doozy.

by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bro, just like a pre-nup, verbal agreements are enforceable in a court of law

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately this :-(

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by DeadeyeRR on Oct 20, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

See Hatfield this is you in 4 years

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if this is sarcasm.

Yes, they are tecnically enforceable. However, they are seldom enforced, as it is difficult to prove that they exist, and even if they do, even more difficult to prove the terms thereof.

by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Draysbay user Hatfield has a verbal pre-nup with his better-than-him bride. It's just an inside joke. No reason to take offense, lad

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Subject to the statute of frauds

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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Oct 20, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

/LAA4Lyfe

where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you

by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Oct 20, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

The Angels certainly have intriguing trade targets

but one would think that’s a conversation that would be tabled until the team has a GM. That, and Bill Stoneman would be part of those talks more so than ownership & team president.

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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Fuck you Andrew

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Oct 20, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Never too early

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Oct 20, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even if he did leave

What exactly does he owe us?

 It strikes me as hypocritical. When he trades away a player or lets a guy walk for financial reasons we sing his praises, but when he tries to get a raise or a new opportunity for himself he’s an asshole? These still are real people with real lives. If its a business, great. But that applies to Friedman too, and he has every right to do whats best for him and his family.

by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

he owes us everything!

he wasnt involved with baseball until $tu brought him aboard!

by TBchillin' on Oct 20, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

And?

Couldn’t you make a similar statement about every player taken in the amateur draft? Just because someone gives you your first break doesn’t make you forever beholden to them.

by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol bro i was just kidding.

of course he doesnt owe us anything. if anything, we owe him. but regarding your amateur draft statement no you couldnt make that a similar statement to what i said. if youre selected in the amateur draft you obviously have baseball experience. freidman wasnt in baseball until stu hired him. baseball players being drafted were playing baseball already. duh.

by TBchillin' on Oct 20, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can't judge this, it's from the internet

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friedman ALT found

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Oct 20, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ron and Ian just talked about this

“Blogs are crap”

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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 11:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

They don't know how to read -- I'm not taking their judgment seriously

We’ve done the homework, we stand by the story.

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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

Yeah, blogs done by individuals with no sources whatsoever may be unreliable, but the DRB community along with the local writers who actually have press passes and everything (think of Tom Berenger in Major League voice) could possibly scoop the talking heads on a local radio station?

Hey, by the way, who broke the Greinke trade last year? Hmmmmm

by MrNegative1 on Oct 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

This story is about as legitimate as lot of national writers reporting

So either all rumors suck or you gotta roll with it

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by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We had this info at 8p last night.....Steve, Erik, and I spent time working sources to confirm the story

Once we got another solid source that placed the guys there, we decided to run with it because it is big news. If the team is going to make moves this season, clearly a change in GM is going to affect that schedule.

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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should report on it-it's a worthwhile story

Mostly responding to how some dismissed it because DRB is just a blog yet SI, Fox, ESPN, etc are infallible.

I put the screw IN THE TUNA!

by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's standard operating procedure

and we expected it. Calceterra, Neyer, Holden Kushner (MLB radio) & rotoworld all cited us as the source of the story and we greatly appreciate that.

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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happier that everyone is saying the site & not me

It was just my story time slot so I wrote the original piece but this was clearly a team effort

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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huge kudos to Erik on running things through and doing lots of legwork on this.

And I would have probably ignored the original email unless you insisted we look into it more. So yeah, team effort for sure.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren't those guys Yankee fans? If you listen to them it's akin to supporting terrorism.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can all agree that when it comes to baseball they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure how I'm doing that, I find sports radio to be utterly useless. At least Rome is funny

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

____
Who cares, it’s not like we don’t adequately discuss rumors as if they’re fact all the time. Kudos on scooping some journos, but we have no idea what they were discussing so I think most people here will jump to the wrong conclusions (map)
This seems like mostly a non-story until actual facts come out about what they were talking about, which won’t happen. They could have been having a discussion of the world series, pumping each other for information, discussing potential trades, or any of a thousand things. The natural inclination is to think that they were talking about a job opportunity, but we have no idea. Leave the fear mongering to Fox News

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you suggest they shouldn't have ran with the story when they had people confirm it?

I don’t know if two guys together is good enough, but two independent sources confirming seems good enough for me. It would be negligent not to.

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his point is we have no idea what eating with someone means

And it just leads to baseless speculation.

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or this, well said

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what both of you are saying...

but you have to report that they are having dinner. You can’t let worries about people jumping to conclusions prevent them fro doing their job. Let’s say that they sit on the story, and then Friedman is announced tomorrow as the GM of the Angels surprising everyone, would Steve and Jason have done their job in that situation?

Personally, I would think that they were in town to discuss the job with him, and probably pick his brain on some candidates.

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It depends what you mean by doing their job

If you report 100 rumors (of this ilk) and 5 come true, are you doing your job? I think people would have different opinions of that.

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fwiw, I can't think of the last rumor that DRB has reported first that's been wrong.

I intend to keep that streak going.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying that he's signing with the Angels or you're saying they had dinner? The first is a real scoop, the latter is TMZ journalism

Were your sources hiding in the bushes reporting to you on two-way radios?

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we were pretty clear in the article what we were reporting.

The headline is they were seen having dinner, that’s all. And:

We do not know the nature of the conversation between Moreno and Friedman, only that they were seen dining together in St. Petersburg and talked for over an hour and a half.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're forgetting who you are talking to

You’d have better luck if you got up right now and talked to your cat.

I’d actually recommend you go do that instead.

@dobbertweets

by blackraven on Oct 20, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try to stay on topic, Dobber.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, keep the personal attacks to the OTTOTD and try to remain on topic here.

This is a conversation for adults not grad students all set to join a labor market that demands 7 humans.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I said kudos, I just don't understand the point

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That the Rays "GM" was having dinner...

with the owner of a team that has an opening for that position?

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have no idea what they talked about. Moreno could have just been running ideas by the best GM in the business

I’m glad it was reported, but it doesn’t really mean anything

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why don't we make a list of what they were most likely talking about?

While I don’t think that Friedman would leave, it seems naive to think that they weren’t at the very least gauging his interest in the job. The fact that they flew out here and had dinner leads me to believe that he was at least interested in hearing what they have to say.

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Making a list doesn't do any good. I'd prefer to hear it from the horse's mouth

I don’t want to speculate on this matter and that’s all there is to do at the moment.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why report anything at all?

Trade rumors, potential free agent signing, what to do with the lineup?

Let’s just wait until everything becomes fact.

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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's two different things

1: “Team X and Player Y had dinner”
2: “Team X and Player Y had dinner to discuss signing as a free agent”

I believe Sandy is talking about the initial report, which was just basically #1.

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Team X who needs a Player Y.

And Player Y happens to be one of the most sought after “Players” at his position and is without contract.

It’s worth mentioning in the context of what ifs.

Hell, he shook hands with the Astros owner, or whoever, during the season before a game, and that event was all over the place.

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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's called rosterbation for a reason

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

rosterbation is wild speculation without anything to support it...

in this instance we have two parties having a conversation, that’s probably at least two steps beyond rosterbation

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I'm saying they are different things.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I'd never seen that one.

Awesome. So Nov. 2007 is what we’re working with right now.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's actually kind of interesting that we traded Delmon to the Twins for a different package right around them

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

did they really used to allow pictures in signatures? or is PLK just reposting it every time he posts

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was his sig IIRC

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

almost as bad as gilliss's

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The worst

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They didn't report the Angels signed him

They reported he dined with those two people. It leads to speculation, but that is from other parties.

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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I said, I give kudos for beating journos and it's good to run it, but let's not let this turn into anything more than it is

Two gents in the same industry eating dinner and talking about God knows what.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toby David's reporting it was for an interview.

But obviously, it’s still early.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's the source? It bothers me to no end when a legit new source does not list their source or puts anonymous

Without a source there is no credibility in my opinion. Though I’m a huge fan of The Wire season 5 and most don’t care so maybe I take this angle too seriously.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, Jon Heyman.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is that they aren't, dobber, and that this has become acceptable to the public

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if someone else comes along and claims the same thing as our un-named sources

We’d have the 3 that said they were dining. 2 that said why.

And it makes sense.

Do you still say it’s bullshit?

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by blackraven on Oct 20, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

At no point have I called the facts of the story into question. I take Steve and JC at their word that they were eating together, but it doesn't really tell us anything salient

I would hope Frieds was having dinner with all sorts of GMs and owners trying to gauge which will give us a legit bat or three for the lowest cost. The fact that it’s news that he’s meeting with those in another organization is disheartening as this should be the norm in the off-season.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand where you are coming from

But they need a GM. I find it pretty hard to imagine they were talking about trading players or anything like that over dinner when they need someone to be their GM.

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by blackraven on Oct 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it far more likely that they were trying to gauge the Rays feelings on Hunsicker moving on as there have been rumors in the past of other teams having interest in him

but I’m not going to speculate, because it doesn’t really do any good.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there are 2 ways this plays out

1) They were meeting to discuss AF moving over. He does or doesn’t. Maybe it leaks out that it was the topic of discussion. Either way, it broke here first. Win for the site.

2) it’s bullshit and nothing comes of it at all. Everyone forgets about it and the site doesn’t exactly look bad as a result.

Yeah, I’d like for them to actually do the legwork and try to figure out what’s up. It’s journalism. So far they haven’t done anything inappropriate or wrong.

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by blackraven on Oct 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, I just don't think it's that big of a deal

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way ahead of you, sorry that I'm not slurping at the fount

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say this news is bigger than past Friedman "rumors".

Which is why we ran with it. It wasn’t just heresay that he was interested in going to such and such team…it was that he was physically meeting with another team.

Which hey, who knows exactly why they met? But as there had never been any indications in the past that Friedman was meeting with teams, this seemed like a big deal. Maybe it doesn’t end up being anything, but it didn’t feel right to simply ignore the story once we found it checked out.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, I'm glad you let us in on this nugget in lieu of burying it, don't get that twisted

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Np, it's cool.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just speculated, then covered it by saying you weren't going to speculate.

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by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Equivalent

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by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was pretty good, myself.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

How their dinner could affect roster action?

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it was an interview, and he's going to be changing teams

That puts things on an uncertain schedule. The Angels have their own timeline so they will want to act quickly in a hiring as well. MLB doesn’t like if you announce anything during the WS, so I would expect something to be done on their end by its completion or shortly thereafter given the heads that rolled in that organization this off-season.

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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The circumstantial evidence certainly adds up, but I'm more of a DNA guy myself

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't really need the DNA...

when everyone saw them having sex in the middle of the dining room

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Did you actually see the penetration?

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by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need 2 forms of government approved ID

and her grandmother there watching for it to be fact.

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

and Rob Neyer

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by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

My feeling is trust in a person's "anonymous sources" builds over time

If a person reports some things with anonymous sources and those stories check out, then I trust them more. Skepticism of one without a track record is appropriate imo

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, agreed.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

two legit reasons to use anon sources

1) the source is putting something big on the line by sharing.

2) source is somebody I don’t give a crap about, but is just ‘some guy.’

My money is on 2.

by nomoredevil on Oct 20, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And no way to know whether it's a big fish or a shrimp without a name.

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

then my only qualm with the story is that be spelled out

“some schlub saw” these two guys, then “a source close to/within the org confirmed/reported etc.” It does help to know why they are anonymous.

by nomoredevil on Oct 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get that

The “schlub” has some background info that is relevant here as do 2 other people used so this was part of it.

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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW I agree with you

Unless the story is “Friedman is interviewing for the job” I don’t see the need for anon sources. So I sort of get Toby doing it, I guess. Not so much just on the fact they had dinner.

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You protect the source so they are viable to you later on...

if Toby said that Mark Newman told him that the Angels were in town to interview Freids, he would have burned Newman from giving him any scoop on big Yankees stories because people would know exactly where it came from.

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless the story is "Friedman is interviewing for the job"

That IS Toby’s story. This was NOT the original story here.

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhat ironic that a site full of anonymous posters..

are demanding that people reveal their confidential sources

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't think that there is a possibility that they don't use...

the sources names is because they could be damaged by revealing that information?

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're missing the point, without knowing what they're discussing it doesn't matter how many people confirm that they were together because there's no story here

It’s just ripe for rumor-mongering

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

or Tampa

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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

or Tampa

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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

or Tampa

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 20, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

or Tampa

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats why its highly speculative to assume they were talking about a job opp for Fried

Could be feeling out other staff members or any other baseball discussion.

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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frieds is quite the mensch, they could have just been pumping him for matzah around the league. Fart (in yiddish)

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for truth

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by DeadeyeRR on Oct 20, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone who lurks here & his friend & since confirmed by 2 other people on site at the restaurant

4 stories, all say the same thing. No doubt in our minds that the parties were there — what they were discussing is up for discussion but not a chance any of us ever get confirmation.

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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares, it's not like we don't adequately discuss rumors as if they're fact all the time. Kudos on scooping some journos, but we have no idea what they were discussing so I think most people here will jump to the wrong conclusions (map)

This seems like mostly a non-story until actual facts come out about what they were talking about, which won’t happen. They could have been having a discussion of the world series, pumping each other for information, discussing potential trades, or any of a thousand things. The natural inclination is to think that they were talking about a job opportunity, but we have no idea. Leave the fear mongering to Fox News

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

This is exactly the kind of thing the MSM runs with all the time. And then they criticize bloggers for doing the same…go figure.

by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

STU IS IN MORENO'S BOX, OF ALL THE DRAMATIC THINGS EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

we better be careful not to tread too far into the realm of Corque Gainz

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

they shouldn’t be like Rays Index, which is claiming they had the story first but tossed it aside….and instead of linking to the story here, links to Calcaterra at Hardball Talk, who mentions DRaysBay in the first sentence.

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was such a transparent slap at me

I got a great laugh from it. He’s always entertaining and that’s all I have to say about that.

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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't just post rumors to post rumors.

We make sure they have legs and check out, and we would have sat on this story if it didn’t look solid. And kinda important.

But things are certainly developing quickly on this…with Toby’s report now, seems like the Angels really did come to St. Pete with the intention of interviewing Fried. Welp.

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Add this to friedfact.doc

Apparently he likes Silver Oak wine. High quality tastes.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Was he there with Boof Bonser?

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Huston Street was cleaning out his locker!!!!!

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Sent you an email, Toby.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO REAL NAMES

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do we assume it was Friedman discussing going out west?

I think that probably Moreno wants in to the Rays ownership group.

by Whelk on Oct 20, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Traditionally, yes

But ever since the Henry/Loria Marlins/Sox thing, nothing would surprise me…I’m still inclined to highly doubt it.

by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

On second thought, he shouldn't even bother.

Because it’s looking like that isnt’ the reason at all

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by blackraven on Oct 20, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The "breaking" of the story is interesting to me because it shows how far reaching the DRaysBay community is.

I don’t care who the source(s) were. There information was simply that these parties were having dinner. From what I know, they never claimed to know what they were discussing. I don’t need Rob Neyer to report it for a sighting to be true.

The sighting is worthy of discussing because we have “heard” that he’s been pursued by teams.

The Rays are very tight lipped about any and everything. We constantly speculate on trades and signing based on incomplete information BECAUSE of this fact. Our FO doesn’t confirm or deny any trade potential, discussions with other teams, or courting of players. They also don’t discuss contracts, extensions, etc. Because of all of this we force ourselves to discuss probabilities and those things that make sense to us in order to have a dialogue about things that could impact our lovely franchise.

Personally, if they were doing an “interview” I do find it highly unlikely that it would take place in St Pete. However, if they get caught somewhere else, the speculation intensifies. Doing it in AF’s backyard would imply that it was a friendly chat or, at most, an offseason chat geared around players or other personnel.

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by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

DRaysBay does have a far reaching community...

I remember reading here about how there was nothing wrong with Da’Quan Bowers knee and everyone scoffed.

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by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

r/a

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by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget the light drinking.

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by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colby Rasmus is completing his physical

He’ll be a Ray within 48 hours

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by sternfan1 on Oct 20, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't Wait

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by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was never reported here or tweeted by a staff member

Please stop repeating this falsehood.

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by Doug09 on Oct 20, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

One other thing

It’s quite possible that they weren’t interviewing Friedman for their GM job, but that they were using him as a reference check for someone else within the organization (e.g. Hunsicker – who fits much better than Friedman does into the Angels’ general scheme).

But yeah, all of this is just speculation anyway. Hell, they might have just been building rapport.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 20, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

this was my line of thinking as well I view the convo kind of like this

Moreno- Hey Andrew how would you like to be the GM of the Angels?
Andrew- Thanks, but I’m good, I do have some good people you should look at
Moreno- yea thats what I figured tell me more about them over some drinks.

by Dbullsfan on Oct 20, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also makes the Angels look good

SEE fans, we tried to get Friedman, he turned us down that’s why we hired this loser instead.

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by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hunsicker sure is a loser, glad he doesn't work for our org

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was HBT reporting that

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by Doug09 on Oct 20, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

My fandom shall follow Kotch after the sycophants on this site follow the front office to Boston/NYM

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by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cucklife

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was me, I was the source

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

loooooooooooooooooooooooooool

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 20, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I put the screw IN THE TUNA!

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by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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That's you strolling by Parkshore Grill with a buddy.

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by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

terrible
So chalk this up as further collaboration of our original report, although this is the first evidence that the Angels intended to interview Friedman.

corroboration

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Derp. Thanks, my bad.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll send you my resume for an editorial position. Diaper knows I've got an english degree and no tact, so maybe I can lurk in the background.

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's in the wind

haven’t seen hide nor hair for bradley recently.

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder why?

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

still on the masthead

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't admit the war was won by the SRQ Klan

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are there winners?

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by Warde on Oct 20, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ain't no winners. One side just loses slower.

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPNLA now has this up on their site

Attributed to “source” close to the team(Angels)

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by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

“various internet chatter”

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by Doug09 on Oct 20, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard it first through IndexOfTheRays

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corque texted me about it but I told him not to bother posting this garbage and focus on WAGs

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT

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by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope he goes to LA

then we’ll get a GM who doesn’t fall back on the ol “I was having my appendix removed” excuse to go to the hospital at the trade deadline

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think we would get compensation for him

From what I read up above, but if we do, it will be something similar to what the Cubs gave up for Epstein I would guess.

by Dome Biscuit on Oct 20, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a heartbeat

But I doubt they want him bad enough to trade their top guy.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 20, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck yes

we can hire some other new york banker with zero baseball experience to run our team and draft hs busts like beckham

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

So AF leaving would be the end of the Rays world as we know it?

I guess there is no GM or future GM out there that could keep this team competitive and perhaps even take them farther into the play-offs for 50 million dollars, huh?

AF has done a phenomenal job but maybe it’s time to find someone that may have a different view and method on developing a team and acquiring talent. It’s not like the cubbard is bare, either on the ML roster and within the system.

by budman3 on Oct 20, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

234 posts on whether he broke bread with the Angels?

This board would blow up within 1/2 hour if AF ever left and IMO, the overwhelming response would be that the Rays would take a huge step backward and cease to be relevant in the the AL East.

by budman3 on Oct 20, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe with some writers here but I would think the general feeling, by the majority of fans, would be negative

My thoughts is that, while AF has put together a highly competitive team in the toughest division in baseball on a shoestring budget, he has done little to add the “final” pieces(offensively mostly) over the last two seasons that could have prevented the team from being a “one and done” team.

Call it a stubbornness or difficulties dealing with other GM’s to pull off trades but there appear to have been opportunities to the “always looking to improve the team” montra that never materialized. And while I understand that any deadline deal may not have been made this season, it may have been driven by the notion that the team wasn’t really a serious contender at the time. And I’m fine with that but deals made with the future(short and long term) in mind seemed to be out there…as it may be this winter. I’m not sure AF will change his approach or improve the team significantly as a result.

 I think a new GM with a different philosophy(and based on the talent this team and organization has) may have better results moving forward.

by budman3 on Oct 20, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

This seems obvious to me at times, but there are two things, based on my observation of Friedman that I try to remember

1) He and his staff are at least as smart/well informed, probably significantly smarter/better informed than I am.
2) Even if #1 is only barely or marginally true, he and his staff spend a lot more time thinking about it than I do.

Therefore, given the limited information I have about “potential” deals that he doesn’t make, I evaluate him based on what deals he actually makes, and I see no evidence of a need for a change in approach.

by Whelk on Oct 20, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

By "this seems obvious"

I mean that I sometimes agree with the point you’re making.

by Whelk on Oct 20, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

cubbard? really, cubbard?

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's Rosenthal's update-pretty much what we figured
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Sources express skepticism that Friedman will leave #Rays, with one saying flatly, “He’s not going.” #Angels #mlb

I put the screw IN THE TUNA!

by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Thats me, I am that source

Be surprised if he leaves unless Stu is planning on selling. This is just my gut and no way knowledge.

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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've felt similar about it

As long as the Rays are stable he’ll stay

I put the screw IN THE TUNA!

by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's those sources again

and there goes our season

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Heyy yo

Compensation for Friedman is Wells and Mathis, add a bat and solve the back stop problem.

You heard it from me.

by multiple sources on Oct 22, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol awesome

jonahkeri jonahkeri
Josh Freeman refund please.

by SRQman on Oct 22, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's great

and there goes our season

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 22, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is all Rosenthal (et al) ever do.

Not sure why there’s an issues with it now all of a sudden.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like it when Rosenthal does it either

But Rosenthal doesn’t give two squirts what I think, so I don’t bitch about it.

by nomoredevil on Oct 20, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, fair.

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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steve doesn't care either.

i support casual racism
by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT

I want a BUC'N criminal investigation.
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by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT

by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rosenthal, absolutely a squirter.

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

How crass

i support casual racism
by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT

I want a BUC'N criminal investigation.
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by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT

by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

shift-a

So, who we getting for trading friedman? I hear it’s aybar!

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by putupyourDUKES on Oct 20, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

SONIC BOOM

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by Warde on Oct 20, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

SONIC BOOM

Ain’t it something, we're born to hula.

by Warde on Oct 20, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

AF is just using this to get more money out of $tu.

For payroll, not for him.

where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you

by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Oct 20, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Great job all around, you guys. If it takes a village then it's truly great to see that thus one can raise beautiful babies

Kudos again to all involved. Great job

and there goes our season

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Still in Philly. 18:50 got pshed back to 19:25. Apparently some phenomenon called wind unexpectedly popped up and the pilots had no idea what to do.

and there goes our season

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I haven't had a drink in roughly 20 hours thank you very much

And I’m not angry this is the impetus I needed to finally just focus on data and drop audit activities. If you know anyone that could use agricultural analytical services have them shoot an email to sandykazmir@dhazebay.com

and there goes our season

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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

my watermelon crop is infested!

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Oct 20, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

book a real airline next time

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by putupyourDUKES on Oct 20, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Losing

The Rays have had a lot of losses over the last 13 years… AF would be the biggest if he left.

by joaker5 on Oct 20, 2011 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Offseason just got interesting!

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Josh Freeman refund please.

by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

except I don't think he is leaving.

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe we can get a randy winn caliber player out of him!

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by putupyourDUKES on Oct 20, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

One can only hope!

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by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

he could play all of the outfield!

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by putupyourDUKES on Oct 20, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vernon Wells!

"Well, if you guessin' it's me, you guessed correctly
I just stay with a stallion, you would swear I was an equestrian
I hit her with that pipe, call that Nancy Kerrigan
Stay on the greenest greens, call us vegetarians
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by 4QB on Oct 21, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Scioscia is the "GM" there anyways

He makes all the decisions and wont allow the GM to have authority over him. Andrew wants a promotion (if anything at all) and the Angels would be a demotion. Any GM there is just a puppet/figure head.

Its not going to happen.

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by Warde on Oct 20, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Say AF is gone

Any speculations on who would be a good replacement?

We need some hitting in our system, hopefully a guy that cab fill the cupboard up with some sticks to go with our arms.

Maybe AF had dinner with them to discuss trading Upton, so that the Angela can have another Poo OFer to go with Big Vern?

by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Oct 20, 2011 9:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Would you consider writing a weekly article here?

i support casual racism
by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
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I want a BUC'N criminal investigation.
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by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT

by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

You're RJ, right?

DM on the twitter if it’s true.

where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you

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