Breaking: Andrew Friedman Seen Dining With Angels Owner Arte Moreno
Update, 3:45pm: This says it all.

Update, 3:27pm: It took someone from ESPN LA to confirm the story first, but this is now MLBTradeRumor official. Moreno and Friedman met, but who knows what they talked about and how interested Friedman is in the position. My guess is he's simply doing his own due diligence about his options going forward, but only time will tell.
Update, 12:30pm: Radio host Toby David from 1010AM CBS is hearing from his sources that the Angels have been in town for two days, with the intention of interviewing Andrew Friedman. So chalk this up as further corroboration of our original report, although this is the first evidence that the Angels intended to interview Friedman.
Update, 11:53am: Erik Hahmann has independent confirmation from a source within the restaurant that Friedman and Morerno were both there on Tuesday night. That brings us up to three sources that confirm the story (and we're working on four). So we are extremely confident the two of them met, but we have no idea why or what they were talking about.
Original Story: Important bits highlighted here, full post below the jump.
On Tuesday night, one of our readers was at a restaurant in downtown St. Petersburg when he saw Andrew Friedman dining with Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim team owner Arte Moreno and another individual he later identified as team president John Carpino. This individual lives locally so Friedman is no strange face to him, and he immediately recognized Moreno when walking by their table. Both he and the friend he was dining with feel extremely confident in what they saw, and confirmed after another walk-by and an internet search that the third person at the table was team president John Carpino.
We do not know the nature of the conversation between Moreno and Friedman, only that they were seen dining together in St. Petersburg and talked for over an hour and a half. However, the timing does line up well with the Angels' current search for a General Manager, and if both Moreno and Carpino were in St. Pete, that suggests a conversation more serious than a simple offseason chat.
Friedman? Friedman? Friedman?
Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this girl who's going out with the guy who saw Andrew pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
We believe we have a strong track record here at DRaysBay when it comes to breaking news. This site was the first to report on the signings of Morgan Ensberg, Gabe Kapler, Willy Aybar, and most recently Kyle Farnsworth. Each report came from tips from sources that we researched as much as possible before breaking the story. We don't run with rumors willy-nilly, and only report the things we hear that check out.
Recently, another one of those tips came in regarding Andrew Friedman. While it does not involve Popeye's fried chicken or Coors Light in the dugout, the Rays' off-season now has a bit of somewhat-substantiated drama involving their General Manager.
On Tuesday night, one of our readers was at a restaurant in downtown St. Petersburg when he saw Andrew Friedman dining with Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim team owner Arte Moreno and another individual he later identified as team president John Carpino. This individual lives locally so Friedman is no strange face to him, and he immediately recognized Moreno when walking by their table. Both he and the friend he was dining with feel extremely confident in what they saw, and confirmed after another walk-by and an internet search that the third person at the table was team president John Carpino.
We do not know the nature of the conversation between Moreno and Friedman, only that they were seen dining together in St. Petersburg and talked for over an hour and a half. However, the timing does line up well with the Angels' current search for a General Manager, and if both Moreno and Carpino were in St. Pete, that suggests a conversation more serious than a simple offseason chat.
Throughout this past season, Rays fans had to put up with copious rumors surrounding the front office -- anywhere from Stu Sternberg selling the Rays to take over his hometown Mets, to Andrew Friedman returning home to Houston to salvage the sinking S.S. Astros or going to Chicago to try fix the mess that is the Cubs. Anyone who has followed the Rays for any amount of time knows that the club operates in stealth; they make the move nobody was looking for when nobody was looking for it, as they play a shell game with other teams and the media.
Up until now, all those those rumors have been based on speculation, and there was no actual indication that anyone within the Rays' organization was testing the market. This report changed things.
Last night, while everyone had their eyes on the World Series, MLBTradeRumors posted a story about the Angels and who they were considering for their General Manager post. Mentioned in the story was the highly qualified Kim Ng, whose name has been in many previous searches but she has yet to become the first ever female to serve the role of General Manager in Major League Baseball. Also mentioned in the article was Jerry Dipoto of the Diamondbacks, Damon Oppenheimer of the Yankees, Thad Levine of the Rangers, Rich Hahn of the White Sox, and internal candidates such as Tony Hernandez who currently serves as Manager of Baseball Operations. Not mentioned in that piece was Andrew Friedman.
Two weeks ago, ESPN.com's Mark Saxon interviewed former Angels GM and current team consultant Bill Stoneman about the vacated GM spot. Saxon flashed back to a conversation that he had with Stoneman in spring training regarding the statistically-driven approach some teams were taking to which Stoneman replied:
When I took a look at the Angels’ use – or lack of interest-- in statistics last spring, I talked to Stoneman about the Moneyball approach.
"If you're talking about looking at statistics, I can do that myself," Stoneman said. "If I'm going to have someone working for me, I'd rather have someone who can take a look at a guy and tell me if he can play or not."
Saxon went on to say that:
Unless there is a dramatic change in philosophies -- and it’s hard to imagine Stoneman and Scioscia not being heeded by Carpino and owner Arte Moreno;-- look for a more traditional GM to settle into his Angel Stadium suite when it’s all said and done.
Last week, Angels Owner Arte Moreno told Bill Plunkett of the OC Register what he wanted in his next General Manager.
I think you want a good baseball man – or I should say baseball person because there are some qualified women out there – because you want to be able to evaluate talent," Moreno said. "You also want him to be able to manage a (minor-league) system so you have to look at someone who can evaluate how we're drafting and developing players. And you also want someone with good communication skills.
All we have is visual confirmation of Friedman meeting with at least one and potentially two top executives of another club that has a vacant General Manager role. Friedman certainly fits most of what Moreno is looking for in his next General Manager more than he fits what Stoneman is looking for. Stoneman advises, but the buck stops with Moreno; after witnessing some of the disastrous financial mishaps that Tony Regins brought to his desk, Moreno may be thinking he needs the type of General Manager who has demonstrated a clear ability to remain fiscally responsible while properly valuing both present and future assets.
The Angels were kind enough to allow Joe Maddon to come to St. Pete. Perhaps Friedman is the person to be named later in this imagined deal?
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Was anyone spotted being "sad" at dinner?
jonahkeri jonahkeri
Josh Freeman refund please.
by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 10:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
My sources negate the above "news"
@thekidpow
Calm, collected, German.
by PlayOnWords on Oct 20, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep.
I doubt we’d ever know they gave permission though.
where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you
by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Oct 20, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Theoretically.
I can’t see them denying Friedman the ability to look around, though.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Would this apply if he wasn't working under contract?
I don't always think of epic collapses, but when I do, I prefer the 2011 Red Sox and Braves. Stay salty my friends.
Maybe not if he technically doesn't have a contract?
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Bingo
There is no contractual relationship for the Angels to interfer with.
by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
excuse my ignorance..
but friedman isnt under contract with us? what is he like a freelance GM? lol
Yeah they basically sign him every year
by benderbrodriguez on Oct 20, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
oh ok so its a 1yr contract type deal every year
i dont understand why we dont give him a multi-year deal
He does not have a contract period
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yea the way I understand it Andrew Friedman has never technically been a GM
and the Rays haven’t employed a GM since he has been here.
I thought Stu/Andrew/Matt had handshake contracts?
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe they do
But if it ever came down to it good luck proving/enforcing that agreement…especially considering that this is the type of thing for which a contract is required (in damn near every line of work). That 13th amendment is a doozy.
by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Bro, just like a pre-nup, verbal agreements are enforceable in a court of law
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately this :-(
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Not sure if this is sarcasm.
Yes, they are tecnically enforceable. However, they are seldom enforced, as it is difficult to prove that they exist, and even if they do, even more difficult to prove the terms thereof.
by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Draysbay user Hatfield has a verbal pre-nup with his better-than-him bride. It's just an inside joke. No reason to take offense, lad
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I could tell from her face when we made the agreement that she meant it.
It’s basically the same thing as a signature.
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where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you
by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Oct 20, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions
The Angels certainly have intriguing trade targets
but one would think that’s a conversation that would be tabled until the team has a GM. That, and Bill Stoneman would be part of those talks more so than ownership & team president.
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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions
I'm just going to assume that's what we are all hoping right about now
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by sc_monsta1015 on Oct 20, 2011 11:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just got another confirmation story on this that places the parties there as well -- that makes 3
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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
Fuck you Andrew
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Never too early
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Even if he did leave
What exactly does he owe us?
It strikes me as hypocritical. When he trades away a player or lets a guy walk for financial reasons we sing his praises, but when he tries to get a raise or a new opportunity for himself he’s an asshole? These still are real people with real lives. If its a business, great. But that applies to Friedman too, and he has every right to do whats best for him and his family.
by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
he owes us everything!
he wasnt involved with baseball until $tu brought him aboard!
And?
Couldn’t you make a similar statement about every player taken in the amateur draft? Just because someone gives you your first break doesn’t make you forever beholden to them.
by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
People who think that way are really good...
At making OTHER people rich.
by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
lol bro i was just kidding.
of course he doesnt owe us anything. if anything, we owe him. but regarding your amateur draft statement no you couldnt make that a similar statement to what i said. if youre selected in the amateur draft you obviously have baseball experience. freidman wasnt in baseball until stu hired him. baseball players being drafted were playing baseball already. duh.
This is awful
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
My terrible what?
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
you can't judge this, it's from the internet
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Friedman ALT found
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
27 outs is hard to beat
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Ron and Ian just talked about this
“Blogs are crap”
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 11:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
They are
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
They don't know how to read -- I'm not taking their judgment seriously
We’ve done the homework, we stand by the story.
I'm not a fanboy, I'm a _______
by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha
Yeah, blogs done by individuals with no sources whatsoever may be unreliable, but the DRB community along with the local writers who actually have press passes and everything (think of Tom Berenger in Major League voice) could possibly scoop the talking heads on a local radio station?
Hey, by the way, who broke the Greinke trade last year? Hmmmmm
by MrNegative1 on Oct 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
This story is about as legitimate as lot of national writers reporting
So either all rumors suck or you gotta roll with it
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
We had this info at 8p last night.....Steve, Erik, and I spent time working sources to confirm the story
Once we got another solid source that placed the guys there, we decided to run with it because it is big news. If the team is going to make moves this season, clearly a change in GM is going to affect that schedule.
I'm not a fanboy, I'm a _______
by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
You should report on it-it's a worthwhile story
Mostly responding to how some dismissed it because DRB is just a blog yet SI, Fox, ESPN, etc are infallible.
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That's standard operating procedure
and we expected it. Calceterra, Neyer, Holden Kushner (MLB radio) & rotoworld all cited us as the source of the story and we greatly appreciate that.
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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, just want to see your work appreciated
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm happier that everyone is saying the site & not me
It was just my story time slot so I wrote the original piece but this was clearly a team effort
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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
DRB's Extra 1%
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Huge kudos to Erik on running things through and doing lots of legwork on this.
And I would have probably ignored the original email unless you insisted we look into it more. So yeah, team effort for sure.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Aren't those guys Yankee fans? If you listen to them it's akin to supporting terrorism.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
No
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We can all agree that when it comes to baseball they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just going to sit back and watch you argue both sides of the "blogs are crap" argument
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure how I'm doing that, I find sports radio to be utterly useless. At least Rome is funny
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
____
Who cares, it’s not like we don’t adequately discuss rumors as if they’re fact all the time. Kudos on scooping some journos, but we have no idea what they were discussing so I think most people here will jump to the wrong conclusions (map)
This seems like mostly a non-story until actual facts come out about what they were talking about, which won’t happen. They could have been having a discussion of the world series, pumping each other for information, discussing potential trades, or any of a thousand things. The natural inclination is to think that they were talking about a job opportunity, but we have no idea. Leave the fear mongering to Fox News
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It just seems like a non-story, if I saw Putin and Obama eating lunch I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that America is going to come under Russian rule
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you suggest they shouldn't have ran with the story when they had people confirm it?
I don’t know if two guys together is good enough, but two independent sources confirming seems good enough for me. It would be negligent not to.
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think his point is we have no idea what eating with someone means
And it just leads to baseless speculation.
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Or this, well said
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand what both of you are saying...
but you have to report that they are having dinner. You can’t let worries about people jumping to conclusions prevent them fro doing their job. Let’s say that they sit on the story, and then Friedman is announced tomorrow as the GM of the Angels surprising everyone, would Steve and Jason have done their job in that situation?
Personally, I would think that they were in town to discuss the job with him, and probably pick his brain on some candidates.
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It depends what you mean by doing their job
If you report 100 rumors (of this ilk) and 5 come true, are you doing your job? I think people would have different opinions of that.
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Fwiw, I can't think of the last rumor that DRB has reported first that's been wrong.
I intend to keep that streak going.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're saying that he's signing with the Angels or you're saying they had dinner? The first is a real scoop, the latter is TMZ journalism
Were your sources hiding in the bushes reporting to you on two-way radios?
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we were pretty clear in the article what we were reporting.
The headline is they were seen having dinner, that’s all. And:
We do not know the nature of the conversation between Moreno and Friedman, only that they were seen dining together in St. Petersburg and talked for over an hour and a half.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're forgetting who you are talking to
You’d have better luck if you got up right now and talked to your cat.
I’d actually recommend you go do that instead.
@dobbertweets
Try to stay on topic, Dobber.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, keep the personal attacks to the OTTOTD and try to remain on topic here.
This is a conversation for adults not grad students all set to join a labor market that demands 7 humans.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
As I said kudos, I just don't understand the point
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That the Rays "GM" was having dinner...
with the owner of a team that has an opening for that position?
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We have no idea what they talked about. Moreno could have just been running ideas by the best GM in the business
I’m glad it was reported, but it doesn’t really mean anything
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Why don't we make a list of what they were most likely talking about?
While I don’t think that Friedman would leave, it seems naive to think that they weren’t at the very least gauging his interest in the job. The fact that they flew out here and had dinner leads me to believe that he was at least interested in hearing what they have to say.
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Making a list doesn't do any good. I'd prefer to hear it from the horse's mouth
I don’t want to speculate on this matter and that’s all there is to do at the moment.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Then why report anything at all?
Trade rumors, potential free agent signing, what to do with the lineup?
Let’s just wait until everything becomes fact.
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's two different things
1: “Team X and Player Y had dinner”
2: “Team X and Player Y had dinner to discuss signing as a free agent”
I believe Sandy is talking about the initial report, which was just basically #1.
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Team X who needs a Player Y.
And Player Y happens to be one of the most sought after “Players” at his position and is without contract.
It’s worth mentioning in the context of what ifs.
Hell, he shook hands with the Astros owner, or whoever, during the season before a game, and that event was all over the place.
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's called rosterbation for a reason
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
rosterbation is wild speculation without anything to support it...
in this instance we have two parties having a conversation, that’s probably at least two steps beyond rosterbation
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I'm saying they are different things.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
/puts on devils advocate hat
http://www.draysbay.com/2007/11/27/145943/97
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, I'd never seen that one.
Awesome. So Nov. 2007 is what we’re working with right now.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That's actually kind of interesting that we traded Delmon to the Twins for a different package right around them
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
did they really used to allow pictures in signatures? or is PLK just reposting it every time he posts
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
almost as bad as gilliss's
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't report the Angels signed him
They reported he dined with those two people. It leads to speculation, but that is from other parties.
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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
As I said, I give kudos for beating journos and it's good to run it, but let's not let this turn into anything more than it is
Two gents in the same industry eating dinner and talking about God knows what.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Toby David's reporting it was for an interview.
But obviously, it’s still early.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's the source? It bothers me to no end when a legit new source does not list their source or puts anonymous
Without a source there is no credibility in my opinion. Though I’m a huge fan of The Wire season 5 and most don’t care so maybe I take this angle too seriously.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a source with the Yankees, that's all I know.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, Jon Heyman.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is that they aren't, dobber, and that this has become acceptable to the public
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What if someone else comes along and claims the same thing as our un-named sources
We’d have the 3 that said they were dining. 2 that said why.
And it makes sense.
Do you still say it’s bullshit?
@dobbertweets
At no point have I called the facts of the story into question. I take Steve and JC at their word that they were eating together, but it doesn't really tell us anything salient
I would hope Frieds was having dinner with all sorts of GMs and owners trying to gauge which will give us a legit bat or three for the lowest cost. The fact that it’s news that he’s meeting with those in another organization is disheartening as this should be the norm in the off-season.
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand where you are coming from
But they need a GM. I find it pretty hard to imagine they were talking about trading players or anything like that over dinner when they need someone to be their GM.
@dobbertweets
I find it far more likely that they were trying to gauge the Rays feelings on Hunsicker moving on as there have been rumors in the past of other teams having interest in him
but I’m not going to speculate, because it doesn’t really do any good.
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well there are 2 ways this plays out
1) They were meeting to discuss AF moving over. He does or doesn’t. Maybe it leaks out that it was the topic of discussion. Either way, it broke here first. Win for the site.
2) it’s bullshit and nothing comes of it at all. Everyone forgets about it and the site doesn’t exactly look bad as a result.
Yeah, I’d like for them to actually do the legwork and try to figure out what’s up. It’s journalism. So far they haven’t done anything inappropriate or wrong.
@dobbertweets
I agree, I just don't think it's that big of a deal
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Way ahead of you, sorry that I'm not slurping at the fount
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say this news is bigger than past Friedman "rumors".
Which is why we ran with it. It wasn’t just heresay that he was interested in going to such and such team…it was that he was physically meeting with another team.
Which hey, who knows exactly why they met? But as there had never been any indications in the past that Friedman was meeting with teams, this seemed like a big deal. Maybe it doesn’t end up being anything, but it didn’t feel right to simply ignore the story once we found it checked out.
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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, I'm glad you let us in on this nugget in lieu of burying it, don't get that twisted
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Np, it's cool.
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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You just speculated, then covered it by saying you weren't going to speculate.
“No offense but you are a real [insert insult]”
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Equivalent
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought it was pretty good, myself.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It's only news because of how it could affect roster action in the coming weeks/months
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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
How their dinner could affect roster action?
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
if it was an interview, and he's going to be changing teams
That puts things on an uncertain schedule. The Angels have their own timeline so they will want to act quickly in a hiring as well. MLB doesn’t like if you announce anything during the WS, so I would expect something to be done on their end by its completion or shortly thereafter given the heads that rolled in that organization this off-season.
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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The circumstantial evidence certainly adds up, but I'm more of a DNA guy myself
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't really need the DNA...
when everyone saw them having sex in the middle of the dining room
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you actually see the penetration?
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We need 2 forms of government approved ID
and her grandmother there watching for it to be fact.
jonahkeri jonahkeri
Josh Freeman refund please.
by SRQman on Oct 20, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
and Rob Neyer
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My feeling is trust in a person's "anonymous sources" builds over time
If a person reports some things with anonymous sources and those stories check out, then I trust them more. Skepticism of one without a track record is appropriate imo
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, agreed.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
two legit reasons to use anon sources
1) the source is putting something big on the line by sharing.
2) source is somebody I don’t give a crap about, but is just ‘some guy.’
My money is on 2.
by nomoredevil on Oct 20, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
And no way to know whether it's a big fish or a shrimp without a name.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
actually, 1 and 2 are both accurate here
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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
then my only qualm with the story is that be spelled out
“some schlub saw” these two guys, then “a source close to/within the org confirmed/reported etc.” It does help to know why they are anonymous.
I get that
The “schlub” has some background info that is relevant here as do 2 other people used so this was part of it.
I'm not a fanboy, I'm a _______
by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what you're saying, but perhaps the decline in newspaper readership has as much to people being fed up with lazy journalism as much as advances in technology
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
wouldn't lazy journalism negate any advances in technology?
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW I agree with you
Unless the story is “Friedman is interviewing for the job” I don’t see the need for anon sources. So I sort of get Toby doing it, I guess. Not so much just on the fact they had dinner.
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You protect the source so they are viable to you later on...
if Toby said that Mark Newman told him that the Angels were in town to interview Freids, he would have burned Newman from giving him any scoop on big Yankees stories because people would know exactly where it came from.
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless the story is "Friedman is interviewing for the job"
That IS Toby’s story. This was NOT the original story here.
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Somewhat ironic that a site full of anonymous posters..
are demanding that people reveal their confidential sources
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ironic or two completely different things?
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't think that there is a possibility that they don't use...
the sources names is because they could be damaged by revealing that information?
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You're missing the point, without knowing what they're discussing it doesn't matter how many people confirm that they were together because there's no story here
It’s just ripe for rumor-mongering
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't need a meeting with Putin to see that coming
by nomoredevil on Oct 20, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard he was the one that killed all those animals in Ohio. WITH HIS BARE F'ING HANDS
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They should have met in Idaho where no one would recognize them.
Or Liechtenstein
by Hipster Doofus on Oct 20, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
They are after the Bowling Green pitching coach too????
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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
or Tampa
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or Tampa
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
by wtbudlight on Oct 20, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or Tampa
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 20, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I just said
But with different words.
by Hipster Doofus on Oct 20, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats why its highly speculative to assume they were talking about a job opp for Fried
Could be feeling out other staff members or any other baseball discussion.
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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Frieds is quite the mensch, they could have just been pumping him for matzah around the league. Fart (in yiddish)
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to know how someone from DRaysbay saw them?
I assume they weren’t having dinner in Arby’s. I didn’t know we were so well connected.
by Barnacles on Oct 20, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Someone who lurks here & his friend & since confirmed by 2 other people on site at the restaurant
4 stories, all say the same thing. No doubt in our minds that the parties were there — what they were discussing is up for discussion but not a chance any of us ever get confirmation.
I'm not a fanboy, I'm a _______
by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Who cares, it's not like we don't adequately discuss rumors as if they're fact all the time. Kudos on scooping some journos, but we have no idea what they were discussing so I think most people here will jump to the wrong conclusions (map)
This seems like mostly a non-story until actual facts come out about what they were talking about, which won’t happen. They could have been having a discussion of the world series, pumping each other for information, discussing potential trades, or any of a thousand things. The natural inclination is to think that they were talking about a job opportunity, but we have no idea. Leave the fear mongering to Fox News
and there goes our season
OTM's biggest Clutch Carl fan.
by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
This is exactly the kind of thing the MSM runs with all the time. And then they criticize bloggers for doing the same…go figure.
by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
STU IS IN MORENO'S BOX, OF ALL THE DRAMATIC THINGS EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we better be careful not to tread too far into the realm of Corque Gainz
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
they shouldn’t be like Rays Index, which is claiming they had the story first but tossed it aside….and instead of linking to the story here, links to Calcaterra at Hardball Talk, who mentions DRaysBay in the first sentence.
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That was such a transparent slap at me
I got a great laugh from it. He’s always entertaining and that’s all I have to say about that.
I'm not a fanboy, I'm a _______
by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting that he takes the TOTAL opposite side by dismissing the report as nothing
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
We don't just post rumors to post rumors.
We make sure they have legs and check out, and we would have sat on this story if it didn’t look solid. And kinda important.
But things are certainly developing quickly on this…with Toby’s report now, seems like the Angels really did come to St. Pete with the intention of interviewing Fried. Welp.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
When Reagins was fired a few weeks ago
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by Jason Collette on Oct 20, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Add this to friedfact.doc
Apparently he likes Silver Oak wine. High quality tastes.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
Apparently they Angels have been in town for a couple days..
Word is, it was for GM position.
Sent you an email, Toby.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
NO REAL NAMES
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do we assume it was Friedman discussing going out west?
I think that probably Moreno wants in to the Rays ownership group.
Wouldn't he have to sell before even discussing that?
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by Imperialism32 on Oct 20, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Traditionally, yes
But ever since the Henry/Loria Marlins/Sox thing, nothing would surprise me…I’m still inclined to highly doubt it.
by Desmond Jennings Bryan on Oct 20, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
On second thought, he shouldn't even bother.
Because it’s looking like that isnt’ the reason at all
@dobbertweets
Alright guys, gotta hop on a plane, good job breaking some news, I hope more comes out by the time I land and that it doesn't involve Frieds jumping ship proving every capitalist right that everyone has a price.
and there goes our season
OTM's biggest Clutch Carl fan.
by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
The "breaking" of the story is interesting to me because it shows how far reaching the DRaysBay community is.
I don’t care who the source(s) were. There information was simply that these parties were having dinner. From what I know, they never claimed to know what they were discussing. I don’t need Rob Neyer to report it for a sighting to be true.
The sighting is worthy of discussing because we have “heard” that he’s been pursued by teams.
The Rays are very tight lipped about any and everything. We constantly speculate on trades and signing based on incomplete information BECAUSE of this fact. Our FO doesn’t confirm or deny any trade potential, discussions with other teams, or courting of players. They also don’t discuss contracts, extensions, etc. Because of all of this we force ourselves to discuss probabilities and those things that make sense to us in order to have a dialogue about things that could impact our lovely franchise.
Personally, if they were doing an “interview” I do find it highly unlikely that it would take place in St Pete. However, if they get caught somewhere else, the speculation intensifies. Doing it in AF’s backyard would imply that it was a friendly chat or, at most, an offseason chat geared around players or other personnel.
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
DRaysBay does have a far reaching community...
I remember reading here about how there was nothing wrong with Da’Quan Bowers knee and everyone scoffed.
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
r/a
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some have been known to participate in the scouting process in front of a roaring fire while laying on a polar bear rug...
and alternately looking at an iPad and Lake Tahoe.
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget the light drinking.
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by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Colby Rasmus is completing his physical
He’ll be a Ray within 48 hours
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Can't Wait
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
that was never reported here or tweeted by a staff member
Please stop repeating this falsehood.
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
One other thing
It’s quite possible that they weren’t interviewing Friedman for their GM job, but that they were using him as a reference check for someone else within the organization (e.g. Hunsicker – who fits much better than Friedman does into the Angels’ general scheme).
But yeah, all of this is just speculation anyway. Hell, they might have just been building rapport.
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this was my line of thinking as well I view the convo kind of like this
Moreno- Hey Andrew how would you like to be the GM of the Angels?
Andrew- Thanks, but I’m good, I do have some good people you should look at
Moreno- yea thats what I figured tell me more about them over some drinks.
Also makes the Angels look good
SEE fans, we tried to get Friedman, he turned us down that’s why we hired this loser instead.
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hunsicker sure is a loser, glad he doesn't work for our org
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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Friedman was out eating with Jenks last year when that deal was reported
by Dome Biscuit on Oct 20, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That was HBT reporting that
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
When AF said "I expect to be working with Joe for several years" I guess he meant that he'd be following Joe in his return to Anaheim
by benderbrodriguez on Oct 20, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
My fandom shall follow Kotch after the sycophants on this site follow the front office to Boston/NYM
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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Cucklife
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It was me, I was the source
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
And I was the walrus
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 20, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I am Arte Moreno
"Well, if you guessin' it's me, you guessed correctly
I just stay with a stallion, you would swear I was an equestrian
I hit her with that pipe, call that Nancy Kerrigan
Stay on the greenest greens, call us vegetarians
You be on that minor league, but we smoke professionally"
That's you strolling by Parkshore Grill with a buddy.
i support casual racism
by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT
I want a BUC'N criminal investigation.
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by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT
by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
terrible
So chalk this up as further collaboration of our original report, although this is the first evidence that the Angels intended to interview Friedman.
corroboration
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Derp. Thanks, my bad.
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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll send you my resume for an editorial position. Diaper knows I've got an english degree and no tact, so maybe I can lurk in the background.
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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't they already have a dude with an english degree for that?
jonahkeri jonahkeri
Josh Freeman refund please.
he's in the wind
haven’t seen hide nor hair for bradley recently.
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
still on the masthead
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Ain't no winners. One side just loses slower.
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPNLA now has this up on their site
Attributed to “source” close to the team(Angels)
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
lol
“various internet chatter”
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Source: #Rays GM Friedman is #Angels' top choice. Met with #Angels execs Moreno and Carpino, as first reported by DRaysbay. #MLB
…According to Rosenthal.
We're big time now
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard it first through IndexOfTheRays
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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Corque texted me about it but I told him not to bother posting this garbage and focus on WAGs
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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
i support casual racism
by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT
I want a BUC'N criminal investigation.
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USG
by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT
by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope he goes to LA
then we’ll get a GM who doesn’t fall back on the ol “I was having my appendix removed” excuse to go to the hospital at the trade deadline
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If it was a trade, would you do Friedman for Trout?
by Ben Tumbling on Oct 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we would get compensation for him
From what I read up above, but if we do, it will be something similar to what the Cubs gave up for Epstein I would guess.
by Dome Biscuit on Oct 20, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
In a heartbeat
But I doubt they want him bad enough to trade their top guy.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
fuck yes
we can hire some other new york banker with zero baseball experience to run our team and draft hs busts like beckham
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
So AF leaving would be the end of the Rays world as we know it?
I guess there is no GM or future GM out there that could keep this team competitive and perhaps even take them farther into the play-offs for 50 million dollars, huh?
AF has done a phenomenal job but maybe it’s time to find someone that may have a different view and method on developing a team and acquiring talent. It’s not like the cubbard is bare, either on the ML roster and within the system.
234 posts on whether he broke bread with the Angels?
This board would blow up within 1/2 hour if AF ever left and IMO, the overwhelming response would be that the Rays would take a huge step backward and cease to be relevant in the the AL East.
No, I don't think so. This organization is deep, and many of us writers have been saying for a long while that the Rays will be okay if they lose Friedman.
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by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe with some writers here but I would think the general feeling, by the majority of fans, would be negative
My thoughts is that, while AF has put together a highly competitive team in the toughest division in baseball on a shoestring budget, he has done little to add the “final” pieces(offensively mostly) over the last two seasons that could have prevented the team from being a “one and done” team.
Call it a stubbornness or difficulties dealing with other GM’s to pull off trades but there appear to have been opportunities to the “always looking to improve the team” montra that never materialized. And while I understand that any deadline deal may not have been made this season, it may have been driven by the notion that the team wasn’t really a serious contender at the time. And I’m fine with that but deals made with the future(short and long term) in mind seemed to be out there…as it may be this winter. I’m not sure AF will change his approach or improve the team significantly as a result.
I think a new GM with a different philosophy(and based on the talent this team and organization has) may have better results moving forward.
This seems obvious to me at times, but there are two things, based on my observation of Friedman that I try to remember
1) He and his staff are at least as smart/well informed, probably significantly smarter/better informed than I am.
2) Even if #1 is only barely or marginally true, he and his staff spend a lot more time thinking about it than I do.
Therefore, given the limited information I have about “potential” deals that he doesn’t make, I evaluate him based on what deals he actually makes, and I see no evidence of a need for a change in approach.
cubbard? really, cubbard?
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it is Mother "Hubbard"
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 21, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Here's Rosenthal's update-pretty much what we figured
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Sources express skepticism that Friedman will leave #Rays, with one saying flatly, “He’s not going.” #Angels #mlb
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
That means he will be in red by tomorrow
by Dome Biscuit on Oct 20, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
doooooooooom'd
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats me, I am that source
Be surprised if he leaves unless Stu is planning on selling. This is just my gut and no way knowledge.
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I've felt similar about it
As long as the Rays are stable he’ll stay
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
There's those sources again
and there goes our season
OTM's biggest Clutch Carl fan.
by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Someone should change their name to Sources
Mul Tiple Sources
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Heyy yo
Compensation for Friedman is Wells and Mathis, add a bat and solve the back stop problem.
You heard it from me.
by multiple sources on Oct 22, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's great
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 22, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This is all Rosenthal (et al) ever do.
Not sure why there’s an issues with it now all of a sudden.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like it when Rosenthal does it either
But Rosenthal doesn’t give two squirts what I think, so I don’t bitch about it.
lol, fair.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on Oct 20, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve doesn't care either.
i support casual racism
by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT
I want a BUC'N criminal investigation.
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by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT
by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Rosenthal, absolutely a squirter.
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
How crass
i support casual racism
by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT
I want a BUC'N criminal investigation.
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by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT
by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Jedi Mind Trick
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
shift-a
So, who we getting for trading friedman? I hear it’s aybar!
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by Warde on Oct 20, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
AF is just using this to get more money out of $tu.
For payroll, not for him.
where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you
by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Oct 20, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
Great job all around, you guys. If it takes a village then it's truly great to see that thus one can raise beautiful babies
Kudos again to all involved. Great job
and there goes our season
OTM's biggest Clutch Carl fan.
by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Still no flight?
by Ryan Gilliss on Oct 20, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Still in Philly. 18:50 got pshed back to 19:25. Apparently some phenomenon called wind unexpectedly popped up and the pilots had no idea what to do.
and there goes our season
OTM's biggest Clutch Carl fan.
by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if i ever see an angry, short, drunk, baseball fan in a polo and blazer complaining about a flight delay ill come holler sandy.
I haven't had a drink in roughly 20 hours thank you very much
And I’m not angry this is the impetus I needed to finally just focus on data and drop audit activities. If you know anyone that could use agricultural analytical services have them shoot an email to sandykazmir@dhazebay.com
and there goes our season
OTM's biggest Clutch Carl fan.
by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I assume you have contact with government agencies from time to time, I'd prefer to work with marketing orders and commodity boards rather than individual growers
and there goes our season
OTM's biggest Clutch Carl fan.
by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
my watermelon crop is infested!
I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.
by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
book a real airline next time
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by putupyourDUKES on Oct 20, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Losing
The Rays have had a lot of losses over the last 13 years… AF would be the biggest if he left.
That's what they said about Crafford
and there goes our season
OTM's biggest Clutch Carl fan.
by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Biggest loss for Rays
Was Randy Winn for LouPa
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Oct 20, 2011 9:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't imagine that if the Angels were really wooing him they'd take him to a restaurant in St. Pete.
Where’d they go? Sloppy Joe’s?
What's the St Pete equiv of Del Taco?
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Oct 20, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe we can get a randy winn caliber player out of him!
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by putupyourDUKES on Oct 20, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he could play all of the outfield!
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by putupyourDUKES on Oct 20, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Vernon Wells!
"Well, if you guessin' it's me, you guessed correctly
I just stay with a stallion, you would swear I was an equestrian
I hit her with that pipe, call that Nancy Kerrigan
Stay on the greenest greens, call us vegetarians
You be on that minor league, but we smoke professionally"
Mike Scioscia is the "GM" there anyways
He makes all the decisions and wont allow the GM to have authority over him. Andrew wants a promotion (if anything at all) and the Angels would be a demotion. Any GM there is just a puppet/figure head.
Its not going to happen.
Ain’t it something, we're born to hula.
Say AF is gone
Any speculations on who would be a good replacement?
We need some hitting in our system, hopefully a guy that cab fill the cupboard up with some sticks to go with our arms.
Maybe AF had dinner with them to discuss trading Upton, so that the Angela can have another Poo OFer to go with Big Vern?
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Oct 20, 2011 9:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Would you consider writing a weekly article here?
i support casual racism
by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT
I want a BUC'N criminal investigation.
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USG
by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT
by internet commenter on Oct 20, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You're RJ, right?
DM on the twitter if it’s true.
where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you
by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Oct 20, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions

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