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Game Three Preview: Assorted Thoughts on David Price

I haven't had time to really flesh this out into a coherent post, so here are some random, assorted thoughts on the game:

  • David Price has gotten a bad rap for struggling in big games this season, and while I really want to dissuade all that talk as a myth, I also can't ignore this one fact: Price has the lowest Clutch score (-2.0) of any starting pitcher in the majors this season. Part of this could simply be that he pitches in close games frequently, but to have such a dramatic score, it also suggests that he's had trouble pitching once men get on base and in getting good results in important situations. Bad luck? Poor performance? It's impossible to separate the two, but it's likely a bit of both.

    Luckily for us, though, clutch performance is in no way predictive. Maybe Price has been bad in high-leverage spots this season, but he was above-average in Clutch last season and around average the season before. In other words: past unclutch performances =/= future unclutch performances.

    In general, it's much safer to assume that good pitchers will get good results more often than not, rather than penalizing Price for his seemingly unclutch performance this season. Price has posted a 3.48 ERA and the best peripheral statistics (3.32 FIP, 3.12 SIERA) of his career this season; he's still an ace starter, and one of the best pitchers in the league.

    So keep faith in Price, and even if he botches up today, don't overextrapolate the results. It's unfair to label him an unclutch pitcher; the very most we can say is he's having an unclutch season, which may or may not continue.
  • But seriously, even though Matt Moore succeeded by throwing almost all fastballs, Price needs to break away from the habit of throwing 99% fastballs (I may be exaggerating slightly). Price does have impressive four- and two-seam fastballs, but they haven't gotten the job done all by themselves recently. It's seems like a trite cliche, but hitters can time up a fastball if that's all you throw them, even if that fastball is 95 MPH.

    Considering the Rangers' lineup is so heavy with right-handed power hitters, I hope Price uses today as an excuse to break out his curveball and changeup more frequently. Pitches with vertical break are most effective against opposite-handed hitters, and J.C. Mitchell made the great observation last week that the Rangers struggle against curveballs. Moore's curveball saw solid results against Texas, and I imagine Price's curve would as well if he uses it today.
  • Hey, the Trop suppresses right-handed power by something like 8%. Let's hope that's enough to give the Rangers some struggles.

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I hope he empties the tank tonight

I don’t care if he only goes five, so long as it’s a quality five. 5.1 IP, 1 R, 3 H, 7K, 2 BB.

Oh, and a W.

by nomoredevil on Oct 3, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

No

I’m carrying a grudge, as David wrecked my bowling game last week with his bed-shitting performance. So anything other than the above will send me spiraling into a deep depression, and may cause me to make an hilarious fan post.

Although a W at the end will make it all better.

by nomoredevil on Oct 3, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

"even if he botches up today, don't overextrapolate the results"

Given that we’re in playoff territory, results now trump processes.

by Elasticman on Oct 3, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup - 14 K 0 BB last ALDS for Price

Don’t tell me he pitched well

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 3, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes yes, I get that.

I’m not necessarily saying ignore the results. I’m just saying don’t label him an unclutch pitcher as a result of what happens today. Maybe he’s been unclutch, but that doesn’t make him an overall unclutch player. It’s a semantic difference, but an important one.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow

by Steve Slowinski on Oct 3, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet, next season when he's being crazy clutch, you'll be flip flopping.

Look at what Yanks fans had to do with A-Rod. Crazy about face.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow

by Steve Slowinski on Oct 3, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been made to look stupid many times before

I hope he proves me wrong tonight more than anything

by Sveet on Oct 3, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

this.

I do this for free.
#FREESANDY

by SRQman on Oct 3, 2011 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Unclutch

Going back to his college world series walk-off HR allowed to Michigan

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by Imperialism32 on Oct 3, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selective memory'd

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow

by Steve Slowinski on Oct 3, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Small sample size

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by SRQman on Oct 4, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at just that game, his you'd expect him to have a career UZR of -69

and there goes our season

OTM's biggest Clutch Carl fan.
by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 4, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

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