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Rays Community Prospect #6 Runoff




The voting has come down to Mikie Mahtook and Brandon Guyer.

 

It is a very interesting matchup; the young drafted OF with loads of potential or the AAA OF who is older but also has a very high ceiling. I'm not going to lie, if I believed in Guyer like AndrewTorrez did, there is no way I would not have voted him at #2/3 overall. I'm just not entirely sold that he will hit well at the MLB level. Then again, he does offer more security than someone like Mahtook, who could reach a dead end versus pro pitching. Both have risks, just in different forms.

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Mikie Mahtook: Mahtook was a first round pick in the 2011 draft. He plays in the OF and possesses good all-around tools. He has no pro experience, except some time in the AFL.

 

Brandon Guyer: Guyer has hit well despite being a little older for a prospect. He has solid tools across the board and should contribute for the Rays in 2012. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=guyer-001bra)

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I really think Guyer has a great future, he’s not a 4th OF’er like I thought when we traded for him but Mahtook just looks scary good in any video I see of him playing.

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by joeybw on Nov 23, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Nov 23, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.

by thedudeofdudes on Nov 23, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by Imperialism32 on Nov 25, 2011 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by sc_monsta1015 on Nov 23, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Am I the only one flagging this guy?
Seriously, do we have to wait for the money shot or a "F*** THE SOXXXXXX!" before we ban him? Doubleteapot… BAN HIM!!

by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Nov 23, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I will point out that I did start voting for Guyer at #3.

by AndrewTorrez on Nov 24, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you really John Sickels?

Am I the only one flagging this guy?
Seriously, do we have to wait for the money shot or a "F*** THE SOXXXXXX!" before we ban him? Doubleteapot… BAN HIM!!

by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Nov 24, 2011 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

What?

Why would you think I am him, the same person who’s list I heavily criticized?

by mr. maniac on Nov 24, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Good cover, John.

First, the Beckham/Mahtook thing, now Guyer/Mahtook. This wasn’t tough to figure out. John.

Am I the only one flagging this guy?
Seriously, do we have to wait for the money shot or a "F*** THE SOXXXXXX!" before we ban him? Doubleteapot… BAN HIM!!

by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Nov 24, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, you were, John.

Am I the only one flagging this guy?
Seriously, do we have to wait for the money shot or a "F*** THE SOXXXXXX!" before we ban him? Doubleteapot… BAN HIM!!

by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Nov 25, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I'm valuing floor a bit more, and the fact Guyer is closer the the bigs.

Let’s face it, if everything goes wrong Guyer is still a solid bench player, right? Mahtook might never make it past AAA, who knows?

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by sc_monsta1015 on Nov 24, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm on board with the "closer to the bigs" argument for Guyer

But that’s been taken too far with Guyer vs Mahtook; I don’t think it applies to them at all. If it was Guyer vs Vettleson, yeah.

Barring injury or something disastrous, Mahtook, based on his amateur performance and scouting reports, should make the big leagues at the very least. He’s going to make it like Drew Stubbs or Tyler Colvin did (or whoever first round college bat for illustration). Guyer and Mahtook’s floors are not too far apart.

by Ben Tumbling on Nov 24, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

This!

Guyer is “closer to the majors” because he’s almost four years older!

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by Imperialism32 on Nov 25, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

All I'm saying is I value how colse a player is to the majors a bit more.

I voted for Guyer because we know what he can do at the very least, and Mahtook might not even make it past AAA. I’m not saying I don’t like Mahtook, I’m just saying if the player is about even (Guyer vs. Mahtook) I choose highest floor.

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by sc_monsta1015 on Nov 25, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Dane De La Rosa > Taylor Guerrieri

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by Imperialism32 on Nov 25, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

This doesn't apply.

“I’m just saying if the player is about even (Guyer vs. Mahtook) I choose highest floor.”

Guyer and Mahtook are about even right now, DDLR and Guerrieri are not.

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by sc_monsta1015 on Nov 25, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

As a prospect, that is.

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by sc_monsta1015 on Nov 25, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough

I’m starting to think they’re not as close though. I had Mahtook 1 spot ahead of Guyer on my top 10 I did a few weeks back, but that will change.

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by Imperialism32 on Nov 25, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Dumb statement, he's still in the system at a higher age and not organizational fodder, which means his floor is higher at this point.

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Nov 25, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

A nice prospect to add to this list would be Alonso

The Reds have spoken to the A’s, Jays, Indians and Rays about pitching.

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by sc_monsta1015 on Nov 25, 2011 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

I love HJL

but I’d have to strongly consider Alonso at #2.

by AndrewTorrez on Nov 25, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I would consider, but Lee still goes ahead for me.

If Lee can be an average bat (I think he will be better than that though), he will be very valuable becase of his defense. I expect him to develop into a defensive stud at SS.

by mr. maniac on Nov 26, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

If it took Neimann, I would be a happy man

But they have been all over Shields for….well I guess it’s less than a year but it feels like a while now. Where would Grandal fall on this list? Or what if we got the Reds stoned, where would Meseroco fall?

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by joeybw on Nov 25, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh, how awesome is Moore?

I’ll answer it, if possible, he’s too awesome.

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by joeybw on Nov 25, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm gonna just assume everyone wants our big 4 and they want Alonso

It’s easier that way.

Who do you want at 5? Neimann? Davis? Cobb? Archer? Torres?

first 3 are probably the only guys with a shot in hell, would any of those 3 get us Alonso?

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by joeybw on Nov 25, 2011 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

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