Trading David Price

by elijah.dukes on Dec 11, 2011 12:08 AM EST

If the Rays cannot get Price to sign to a long term deal, and in recognition of the money he will receive in arbitration in the years to come, would it be so bad to trade away (possibly) our best starter for some serious offensive help? What would it take for you as a GM to give up David Price? It's something that's never thrown out there, probably because Price has one cheap year left, but I'd like to hear them. My scenario would be something like David Price and Tim Beckham prospect for LoMo and Mike Stanton.

If you scoff at the idea of trading David Price, refer back to this FanGraphs post... It's not a crazy idea, really. Shields is cost controlled and a pretty reliable starter.

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Yeah, I agree that keeping Shields and trading Price is an decent option....

… and I’m sure Friedman has already thought about it too. Shields’ cost certainty is nice over the next three years and the Rays are under no commitment financially if something tragic happens in the injury department. Price is certain to be more expensive in 2013 and 2014 (maybe 80% of Lincecum money at best) and while the ability to non-tender him is there if they are going year to year with him, going year to year is something the Rays are likely to avoid and Price getting a guaranteed deal over the next three or four years seems likely. With that there is risk, and Shields’ contract doesn’t carry that same problem at this point.

As for the return, I’m not sure there is anything you could offer the Marlins for Stanton. Moore perhaps, and that’s it. I agree that the haul would be significant and maybe a little better, but probably not a lot more than Shields would bring back given the fact that Price doesn’t have the same cost certainty.

by Win-cicum on Dec 11, 2011 12:49 AM EST reply actions

I don`t scoff at the idea of trading DP

I scoff at the Marlins giving up Stanton and LoMo for him and Beckham though.

by Moore Guerreri and Cheese on Dec 11, 2011 12:50 AM EST reply actions

Yeah, that was wishful thinking

Maybe Jennings + Price + Beckham might get it done, though.

by elijah.dukes on Dec 11, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions

I would hope Jennings and Price would be more than enough

even with the money Price will be paid.

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by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 11, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Jennings would be too much.

Something more like Price + Guyer + something maybe like Colome.

by jtmorgan on Dec 11, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions

Price and Stanton project to be roughly equivalent in WAR

But I think that Stanton’s power has to be slightly over valued in today’s market. LoMo’s defense is atrocious but at DH in the AL that would be a moot point. So I guess when you look at it, Jennings + Price out to get it done. I’m not sold on Guyer and I doubt many GM’s are either.

by elijah.dukes on Dec 11, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions

Ya I was just saying Guyer because they will lose 2/3 OF so they'd need something.

Breaking it down I Jennings would be worth much more than Lomo.

by jtmorgan on Dec 11, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions

I don't think this is the offseason to talk about trading our core guys.

When this is our best chance at winning the WS in proably a few years. If that doesn’t happen, I’m totally fine with cleaning out Upton, Shields, and Price as they get too expensive. I think we can expect a big year for Price, which only makes him more valuble for other teams next year.

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by sc_monsta1015 on Dec 11, 2011 10:14 AM EST reply actions

This is probably what Freidman is thinking

Obviously milking him another year is a good play. But if we could pickup a monster like Stanton or something maybe it is worth it?

by elijah.dukes on Dec 11, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions

Not right now I don't think we need to. We are already loaded in the outfield,

if we trade Price we need a nice 1B involved

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by sc_monsta1015 on Dec 11, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions

lets trade him for braun now. DO IT FRIEDMAN

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by pudieron89 on Dec 11, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions

lol

by benderbrodriguez on Dec 11, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions

Strike while the iron's hot!

Slick stuff

by elijah.dukes on Dec 11, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions

While his value is low

If only we can get the Brewers to pick up that contract…lol

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by sc_monsta1015 on Dec 11, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions

I disagree that Stanton's power would rank him higher than Price

David is a left handed ace, look at guys like Sabathia, Lee and more recently Wilson. Outside of Lee, Price is better than all of them when he is on. However, even when it comes to Lee, he is younger and cheaper.

He, by far has to have our most trade value, the only young stud lefty making the same kind of money I can think of is Kershaw and you can bet the Dodgers wouldn’t trade him for Stanton.

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by joeybw on Dec 12, 2011 2:05 AM EST reply actions

moore and longo..

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by pudieron89 on Dec 12, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions

I have no problem with trading Price

If there was actually an appreciable difference in attendance when he was pitching, I might feel differently, but despite not being our best starter he probably has the highest trade value with a lot of potential trade partners.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 12, 2011 12:48 PM EST reply actions

He is our best starter.

by rglass44 on Dec 12, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions

Without a doubt

However, by how much is he really our best starter? We can count on a 4.5+ WAR season from Price, and a 4+ WAR season from Shields – both have a track record of staying healthy and while Shields costs more $ now, Price will certainly make a boatload in arb 1,2, and 3. I could see him commanding something like $18 M over those arbitration years. When you look at the Moore contract that was just signed for something under $15 M it seems like he may be a bit outside the Rays’ “Price” range. It would take an enormous offer though to get the Rays to essentially give up a super cheap year of Price. That’s why I put someone like Stanton out there, not that he would be on the block, but just as an example of someone who might be in that enormous range.

by elijah.dukes on Dec 12, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions

Price doesn't have a "super cheap" year left.

He’s arb eligible this offseason and expected to make $7.5-8MM, and over the 4 arb years will cost $45-50MM minimum over the arbitration process.

He is our best starter and it would be nice to have him instead of the 6th starter taking over his spot. He’s not untouchable, but would require a really nice haul to get him with 4 years of team control remaining.

by jtmorgan on Dec 12, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions

we definitely flubbed the Service Time Champs in 2009 by calling him up.

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by pudieron89 on Dec 12, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions

Was not aware of that

In that case, trading Price now might make more sense if we can get a big time, 4-5 WAR bat that would help now and in the long run, along with some spects.

by elijah.dukes on Dec 12, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions