An Ode To Andy Sonnanstine
I was fully expecting Andy Sonnanstine to get non-tendered last night, but for some reason, the news still hit me hard. Not quite like a ton of bricks or a train -- there's no need to get dramatic here -- but but it was kind of like that feeling you get when you realize your kids* are so friggin' old now and how did that happen. A deep temporary emptiness, an "Oh sh*t" sort of sensation, and then a pang of melancholy that slowly fades over time. Luckily for me, this wasn't all that serious so I was back to normal within five minutes.
I'm going to miss Andy. He hasn't been an effective major league pitcher since moving to the bullpen, but I still have a soft spot for him. He's one of the few players that had been around the organization since before the club was good -- now only Upton and Shields remain for full-time players, although Howell and Zobrist also technically count -- and he seemed to harken back to the ol' Devil Rays days more so than any other player on the team.
Because let's face it: Sonny wasn't a good pitcher. He was an effective starter back in 2007 and 2008 (5.6 WAR in 324 IP), and he seemed to survive more by guile than by skill. His fastball barely topped 90 MPH, but he could locate it like Jamie Moyer and get by just fine. The epic Edwin Jackson vs. Andy Sonnanstine debates will forever live in DRaysBay lore, and they are a prime example on why you can't rely on just stats or scouting alone. Jackson returned much more in a trade than Sonny every would have, but that's also because Sonny's career had such limited upside and tanked hard in 2009.
Most pitchers see improvements in their skills when they move to the bullpen, but for Sonny, the opposite was true. His fastball didn't seem to get any extra life, and instead, his pinpoint control deserted him. There's nothing mysterious or secret about having excellent pitch control; if anything, it's somewhat boring. Control is a product of perfect repetition, requiring that pitchers are able to replicate their mechanics exactly time after time after time. You can't rush your windup one time only to slow it down the next; you can't alter your release point or change even the slightest thing. Control is about consistency and perfection...and without his five day schedule, that perfection deserted Sonny.
His walk rate spiked and he started allowing home runs at a Yieldsian rate. In 2009, he allowed 19 homeruns in only 99 innings in his first year in the 'pen, and things only continued to go downhill over the next two seasons. This past season was the worst yet. He couldn't strike anyone out, he walked more hitters than ever before, and he had a 22% HR/FB rate. He became our modern-day Casey Fossum -- the soft-tossing, tiny-looking pitcher that simply couldn't get anyone out.
But there were also lots of good times, most of them having to do with Sonny's off the field eccentricity. He took to plastering the outfield wall with his own artwork, and his ping-pong skills were a thing of legend. He filmed a YouTube video of Tropicana Field, wrote his own book on Rays' trivia, and he forever earned my fandom with his ironic antlers during the 2010 ALDS against the Rangers.
Good luck, Andy. Here's hoping some team gives him a chance to rediscover his control and success. It's been a fun, long ride, and as much as I may have called for his head this past season, this team won't be quite the same next season. The bullpen will probably be better, but we'll be giving up something as well: a connection with our history, and a really fun guy to follow. For better and worse, he was one of the last true Devil Rays.
*Not that I have kids, but I've worked with them a lot and I've seen a couple grow up over the years.
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Always liked a fellow ping pong player
will miss his name on a Rays jersey, but not him pitching in one…
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It's Table Tennis
Anytime you want to go just name the time and place. My Penhold Grip is like the claw of power and spin.
by MrNegative1 on Dec 13, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
I'm more Western grip myself, but I'm out of practice since I graduated from undergrad.
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I hear you
I haven’t played in some time myself.
by MrNegative1 on Dec 13, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I was actually the Sonnanstine of serving...none of them were particularly great serves, but I can put a variety of spins and keep you off balance.
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Oh my god
This is worse than that creep who wrote the thing about game 162 being some sort of hokey miracle. Pangs of melancholy for Andy sonnanstine…?
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Calm, collected, German.
Haha, yeah, I'm a sap.
Although that hokey miracle piece really took things to the next level…
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by Steve Slowinski on Dec 13, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
we're buying out a spot in Creative Loafing, send me your credit card info if interested
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Thanks man.
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by Steve Slowinski on Dec 13, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Nice to see you around, Steph.
I should’ve known you’d have a similar soft spot for the long-tenured guys.
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by Steve Slowinski on Dec 13, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
I will say this: I could have written a piece solely on the old Jackson/Sonny debates.
I think it’s really fascinating to think back on those and to look at how things turned out. Not only in terms of results, but just how much lots of us have learned since then. I don’t think many of us would have rated Sonny as high back then if we had known a bit more, but it was still the right decision to trade Jackson.
And I still believe that Jackson never would have flourished if he’d remained on the Rays. His success mainly stems from his slider, and the Rays seem to hate that pitch.
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by Steve Slowinski on Dec 13, 2011 10:02 AM EST reply actions
Sonny is the type of guy
like who will someday put together another good season….think of Willie Blair….and then probably fade into the background.
I wish him the best and hope he does find that surprise season around the next corner…
by MrNegative1 on Dec 13, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Sonny lost his control before the move to the bullpen.
If Sonny hadn’t lost his control, Price may not be Super 2. Screw you Sonny.
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 13, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
The Kaz injury was the reason Price got called up
by benderbrodriguez on Dec 13, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
What do you think they would've done had Sonny been decent?
Send Price back down?
by benderbrodriguez on Dec 13, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Price was the example that put us on the arb clock kick
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Why, yes, Tommy Rancel suggested this very idea 6/23/09 on this very website
Current site leader had this to say in the comments:
one changeup on the night… and it was hit to the fence. Send him back down to AAA until he can throw that pitch with confidence. If not, just make him a reliever for the rest of the season and work on the pitch on side sessions.
He was not dominating AAA so I have no problem sending him back there but leaving him up here as a 2 pitch pitcher to get his head beat in isn’t doing much.
Has he gotten out of the 1st inning in under 30 pitches this year yet?
What’s on my mind
by Jason Collette on Jun 23, 2009 7:51 PM PDT reply actions
So it was certainly a consideration. And in hindsight, I’m sure the Rays wish they had done this.
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and had that happened, he's not Super 2 right now :)
Always irritates me when top talents get this far without a decent off-speed pitch.
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by Jason Collette on Dec 13, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I agree, it would have been the right move
I was demonstrating that smart people thought it was a consideration and not hindsight analysis.
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a definite change of pace for me, no doubt :)
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by Jason Collette on Dec 13, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
everything's easier in hindsight when you know we didn't make the playoffs that year.
but I do agree.
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I know, was saying from the Rays perspective, not our all-knowing overlords
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I'm not disagreeing that it would've been a good idea
I’m just saying that once he was up, I highly doubt the Rays would’ve been able to demote him without a backlash from him/the fans
by benderbrodriguez on Dec 13, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn't pitching particularly great
A few weeks later they traded Kaz, I don’t think backlash of the blue seats is a major concern behind personnel moves.
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Hmm, good point. I'd forgotten about that.
I also totally forgot to mention his time hitting cleanup, so that’s a major fail.
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by Steve Slowinski on Dec 13, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I liked Sonnanstine.
In some ways, he reminded me of the Rays front office-doing more with less. He did not have the resources of power pitchers, but he had smarts and guile, and he maximized the resources he did have-command, deception, variety of pitches, good movement on his pitches. And he struck me as analytical, making adjustments in-game. But like the Rays front office, he could not afford to “make a mistake” i.e. to lose any of his advantages. When his command deserted him, his success ended.
And I think Rays fans should be grateful for his contributions to the 2008 pennant-winning team. In what was arguably the greatest year (or second greatest if you consider 2011 better) in Rays history, he was a significant contributor. And although he was knocked around in the World Series, he pitched adequately in the ALDS and ALCS, winning both his starts with decent performances.
and he pitched decently in 7 of 8 starts the past two years
…which is pretty much all you can ask of your emergency starter. Think the Red Sox wouldn’t have rather had Andy Sonnanstine than the collection of combustible crap they kept running out there last September?
by AndrewTorrez on Dec 13, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
eh...probably not, no. I can't say that Sonny is better than Andrew Miller or John Lackey at all.
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Dude he's better than John Lackey
ERA sucks I know but Lackey’s was 6.41 over 160 innings last year! that’s painfully bad
by benderbrodriguez on Dec 13, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
can you imagine giving Sonny 160 innings to prove he's worse? would you really want to do that?
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2008 was the greatest year, no debate
september was an awesome month last year, but that whole 2008 season was something I thought wasn’t even a remote possibility of ever happening to this franchise
by peteypab on Dec 13, 2011 2:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think there is much question the Rays were right to non-tender him,
but Steve’s ode was simply a recognition of Sonnanstine’s place in Rays history and a personal response to the end of his career here. I think it better to remember his role in the Rays success than to harp on his more recent failures.
Let’s remember, and be grateful, that in 2008 not only was he a useful part of the rotation, but in consecutive games against Boston in September, he pitched 13 innings (7 & 6) and gave up 2 runs (1 each game) and 0 earned, winning both. In the first game he allowed 4 hits, 0 BBs and 7 Ks. In the second, he allowed 3 hits, 2 BBs and 5 Ks. The Rays won the division over Boston by 2 games.
And then he won 2 post-season games to help the Rays get to the World Series.
At this point, I agree it is time for him to go, but I would rather celebrate than critique him.
It's about time.
Sonny has done nothing on the major league level. His balls are flat and in the zone. He really is too hittable.
He is a nice guy, yes, but just a waste of roster space for the last few seasons. Very servicable in ’08. I loved him in Montgomery. But, the league adjusted to him and he never adjusted to the league.
Blah!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Dec 13, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions
Very servicable in ’08. Sonny has done nothing on the major league level.
Hmmm, what this comment needs more of is some Dan Johnson.
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I enjoyed this piece. Always like Sonnanstine and hoped the best for him.
I always forget that he was worth nearly 6 fWAR his first two seasons, too.
Sonny
Thank God we won’t have to endure watching him flip that little Frisbee curve of his up there, and watch it sail over the fence.
I can see Andy moving into coaching — good guy, good head, smart, I'll miss him,
but realize he just didn’t fit with the future of this club. I wish him the best.




























