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The Rays Tank: Sonny Signs, Gruden Grumbles, And Other Notes And News And Stuff And Whatnot

SEATTLE - JUNE 03:  Starting pitcher Andy Sonnanstine #21 of the Tampa Bay Rays pitches against the Seattle Mariners at Safeco Field on June 3, 2011 in Seattle, Washington. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images)

Well, the year of our Lord two thousand and eleven draws its finals, raspy breathes, and as such, we know that Friedman's transaction list is aboutta heat up. AF's most recent transaction -- releasing RHP Andy Sonnanstine -- has already had a reciprocal response from his former nemesis, ol' Theo Epstein.

The new Chicago Cubs President of Baseball Operations has signed the former Tampa Bay Rays starter to a split contract, meaning he has dual contracts (minor and major league deals) with disparate levels of pay. As I already noted, I think the signing makes a great deal of sense for the Cubs who have about as much SP depth as the shallow pool of tears shed when Jim Hendry was fired.

Sonny can also stay with the Cubs in 2013 as he is arbitration eligible. I think/hope he can turn his ugh ways around and be a fine 5th starter in the NL. I mean, who doesn't like Sonny?

In case you are still swaggering back into reality from a turkey-induced haze of holiday revelry, Jason had a great article looking at the contract returns of several notable former Rays. "Merry Gift-Giving Holiday," said the GMs presiding over those deals.

Mike Axisa of MLB Trade Rumors gives us a dandy run-down of the remaining power hitters on the free agent wire. Sternfan1 actually made a solid argument (...I think that phrase just broke my keyboard) for signing Jorge Posada as a 25th man on the roster. I'll say: If Jorge will accept that role and accept the Rays' likely low-ball contract offer, then yes please. I doubt it happens though -- at least not with two other teams in the mix for Posada. Axisa also looks at something both we and Rancel have addressed this month -- extending Matt Joyce. Get it done, guys.

Speaking of which, Matt Joyce now has a Twitter account that Jason verified through a source: @sweetswingin20 . He signed up yesterday and is already approaching 900 followers.

And on a spandex and butt-slapping note, it looks like former Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden is ready to return to the NFL as a head coach. Cool. Just stay away from my teams, Chuckie.

With our starting pitchers still involved in trade rumors, David Fung of Beyond the Boxscore gives us a graphical look at what is left on the starting pitching free agent market.

Other tidbits:

  • Former Rays farmhand OF Chris Carter (not the Oakland Athletics Carter, but the one who ended the season with the Atlanta Braves) has signed with the Seibu Lions of Japan's NPB league, presumably to play DH. Carter had a 106 wRC+ and 10 homers with the Durham Bulls last year, so he could be around average with the bat in Japan. All the best to him!
  • The official Tampa Bay Rays website has a decent article on their front page, reflecting on the Rays' 2011 season. I recommend watching the video; 'twil give you the goose-pimples of nostalgia.
  • Oh, and Buster Olney (Insider account required) says the New York Yankees have the second best bullpen in the MLB. I am inclined to agree with him, but I still prefer our total roster to theirs.
  • Willy Aybar is trying to resume a career in Japan but is first throwing himself at the mercy of the court in the Dominican Republic trying to get his punishment lifted.

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This hasn't been rumored anywhere, but i believe the Rays covet Derek Lee

at 1B more than they’re saying

He’d fit nicely into their line up along with Damon as the DH and Posada as the UTL bat as i’ll label him

follow me on twitter @sternfan10

by sternfan1 on Dec 27, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

I know we can't take the team's word that much but...

They have said they’d prefer a left-handed guy. If you look at what the team has right now, it’s a heavy on the RH bats

LF: Jennings
CF: BJ
3B: Longo
SS: Rodriguez
C: Molina
DH: ?
1B: ?
2B: SH
RF: LH

I'm not a fanboy, I'm an awesome dude

by Jason Collette on Dec 27, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

To me, Lee seems like Damon plus a position and minus speed.

I’m not sure if that makes him better, but I’d take the lesser of the two contracts between them.

by BWoodrum on Dec 27, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Small sample size alert

but he was rather horrible in the ALE compared to his numbers in the NL and took off when he got back in the NL last season. Most of the time, you see a guy find some short-term success his first time around a new league, but the exact opposite happened to Lee. If the Rays were to add him, it almost makes adding a LH DH a must.

I'm not a fanboy, I'm an awesome dude

by Jason Collette on Dec 27, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

What changed your mind there?

I thought you wanted him back?

I'm not a fanboy, I'm an awesome dude

by Jason Collette on Dec 27, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

In all seriosness, i'm very confident

Friedman will get the bats he needs to compliment the line up and improve the offense for 2012

Remember how good this offense was in Aug/Sept with a healthy Longoria, Jennings at lead off and BJ in the 2-hole

Add a couple pieces and let’s rock

follow me on twitter @sternfan10

by sternfan1 on Dec 27, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

A lot of us (ok I was a homer for him, I admit it) saw holes in Yonder's game

Gotta think AF did also. He wasn’t going to pay Beltran 13 million a year, he wasn’t going to pay him anything when he said no to DH. And his back up plans of Kotch and Damon remain while there are other FA’s and he has his trade pieces. I get the sudden feeling that Friedman is right where he expected to be right now. Hopefully, he will bring Rizzo on. Even if he needs to start in Durham, he needs to get him on our team.

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I honestly want to see Zobrist put back in the #3 hole with Longoria cleanup

Last year Zobrist showed 2009 wasn’t a fluke and 2010 was health related. Bouncing back last year, I think a Jennings-Upton-Zobrist-Longoria-Joyce (with possible Pena/Scott additions) lineup looks pretty damn good.

by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 27, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Zo gave Longo at least decent protection

I still don’t know how Evan hit 31 homers with no real protection, if you take Zo away then you have to hope Joyce has a more consistent break out year, of course…

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it probably depends on who the Rays sign

Pena would at least supply the power bat, and Scott, if healthy posted 50 XBH from 2008-2010. If Rays can add a bat, or Joyce emerge as lineup protection for Longoria, it would allow the Rays to put Zo at third in lineup.

by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 27, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

because protection is a myth?

"I don't always post off-topic, but when I do, I post at http://ottotd.com" - $tinky $tu

by pudieron89 on Dec 27, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I can't find that Sonny GIF :-(

Sign lady must die.
#rootingforstusbottomline

by EminenceFront on Dec 27, 2011 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I can find it animated it either

But, it’s still fun to look at.

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Did you mean his double?

You probably did…

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I did.

Sign lady must die.
#rootingforstusbottomline

by EminenceFront on Dec 27, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

FreeZo:DRB

Me:Entire Internet

Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.

by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Dec 27, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

and

Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.

by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Dec 27, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Not that one either.

Sign lady must die.
#rootingforstusbottomline

by EminenceFront on Dec 27, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I know what you're talking about but I can't find it

It’s when he got to second base and did some kind of reaction, right? I think he couldn’t hide his smile. I remember him taking none other than Longoria’s spot in the lineup….

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

...

Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.

by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Dec 27, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

love it

all happy then in a split second ok time to be serious, lets go

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Where can the list of most impressive pitching performances by team be found?

Like the list that somehow takes everything into account and gives it some score?

I’ve seen it referred to on here before, and I would like to glance at it. Thanks.

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

I cant find the scores for teams

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/topperformers/_/type/pitching

I found them for games in particular, Shields should make a lot of appearances on this list.

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks.

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

not just because it's SF1, but SF1's "solid argument" was stupid

It amounted to: Jorge Posada is better than Elliot Johnson.

1) I’m not sure that’s the case, even considering EJ as a DH; and
2) Elliot Johnson is already behind Brandon Guyer, Russ Canzler, and probably even Justin Ruggiano for that last bench spot anyway.

by AndrewTorrez on Dec 27, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

He certainley should be behind them, especially Guyer who IMO would be a decent starter

However, it might not be the real case because we hate giving away “talent” (try saying that with a real face when it’s about Elliot) and EJ is out of options and we also love winning service time championships which hurts Guyer’s chances to make the team unless they don’t sign a DH and Joyce plays DH and you know what, even then, I can see the Rays pulling a 2011 and letting Ruggiano get the playing time the first half, then give the job to Guyer.

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be worse than trading for he who must not be named.

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Si, senor.

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Elliot Lohnson?

I'm not a fanboy, I'm an awesome dude

by Jason Collette on Dec 27, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

awful

"I don't always post off-topic, but when I do, I post at http://ottotd.com" - $tinky $tu

by pudieron89 on Dec 27, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

please stop

"I don't always post off-topic, but when I do, I post at http://ottotd.com" - $tinky $tu

by pudieron89 on Dec 27, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm, that's a little weird

I don’t think we’re interested but you would think if he’s calling teams to ask if they are interested, he would call the Rays first….

According to 1500 ESPN’s Darren Wolfson, Dan Wheeler’s agent tried to reach out to the Twins on Tuesday.
The Twins’ front office is on vacation until after the New Year, so the call fell on deaf ears. Wheeler posted a 4.38 ERA and 39/8 K/BB ratio in 49 1/3 innings this past season for the Red Sox, and would make a nice addition to the middle of the Twins’ bullpen. It shouldn’t take more than a one-year deal.

Whatever, Peralta and Gomes both fill that role much better than Wheeler

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

Some Cubs fans are way too optimistic about Sonny.

It’s disturbing. They are citing 2007 and 2008 and keep saying he might bounce back. Holy crap.

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

I think they watched Garza and just assume that all the Ray pitchers are awesome

Most are, Cubbies but you just signed a terrible one.

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the consensus has always been he'd be an acceptable, if not above average NL pitcher.
Unleash Sonny upon the NL Central.
If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT
by Vin on Jan 7, 2011 11:51 AM CST up actions

(During the Garza talks)

I'll make out with a guy if he knocks it in
by Jason Collette on Jun 11, 2011 9:00 PM CDT
(Kotchman knocked it in)

by Vin on Dec 27, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally, I think he reached a new level of awful in 2011

He looked like a semi decent RP at least in 2010, even made a couple of decent starts but everything he did in 2011 was brutal

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

True enough.

I'll make out with a guy if he knocks it in
by Jason Collette on Jun 11, 2011 9:00 PM CDT
(Kotchman knocked it in)

by Vin on Dec 27, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Were there a lot of posts like that?

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Ehhhhh, yeah? Maybe. I dunno.

Joey’s right though. After last year all indications are he’s going to be awful no matter what.

I'll make out with a guy if he knocks it in
by Jason Collette on Jun 11, 2011 9:00 PM CDT
(Kotchman knocked it in)

by Vin on Dec 27, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

2009 was pretty grim, also.

He had a bit of luck on his side in 2010, looking at BABIP, LOB%, FIP, etc etc etc

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I was so convinced he was the next Greg Maddux.

I'll make out with a guy if he knocks it in
by Jason Collette on Jun 11, 2011 9:00 PM CDT
(Kotchman knocked it in)

by Vin on Dec 27, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Hellickson now.

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Sonny should have signed with St. Loius, even with a pure minor league deal

I sense a good deal of injuries to their staff. He’d have a good chance of making the majors and be good. Ryan Franklin became relevant there for goodness sake.

by Ben Tumbling on Dec 27, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You may be on to something

Percival was pretty good in St. Louis

Dave Duncan would be a huge FA signing if we ever got him as a pitching coach.

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm decently satisfied with the success of the Rays pitching staff.

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

How bout that Yankees hitting coach?

What is it Kevin Long? He actually seems to figure out hitters problems while Shelton just watches them strike out and hopes they don’t the next time.

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the K rate on this team is hard to stomach sometimes.

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 27, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Prince Fielder might sign for just 3 years...

Nevermind, that pipe dream is a little too big even for me.

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 6:15 PM EST reply actions  

looks like a real rumor

you have to think the FO can swing 3 years at 26MM per

by AndrewTorrez on Dec 27, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

Maybe if they traded Shields AND Upton, I would think they were doing so for Fielder but 26 million on one player? Have the Rays ever paid a player even as high as 11 million a year?

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Dec 27, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

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