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Could Cano's Contract Even Be More Valuable Than Longoria's?
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Jim Bowden put an article on ESPN yesterday listing the top ten best contracts in baseball. It’s behind the insider pay wall, but apparently he listed Longoria third. Here’s his number one:
1. New York Yankees: Robinson Cano, 2B, four years: 2008-11, $30 million, AAV: $7.5 million
This got me thinking, is there any way that Cano’s contract could be more valuable than Longo’s?
Let’s start with where we are currently:
From 2008-2011 Cano was worth 16.6 WAR (he was terrible in 2008 with a WAR of 0.3). This means that the Yankees paid $30M for 16.6 WAR or $1.8M per WAR. That’s pretty good since free agents have cost around $4M per WAR to sign. Basically, if the Yankees had replaced Cano with an equivalent free agent, they would have had to pay around $66.4M. Based on his contract, Cano has provided a surplus value of $36.4M for the team.
Evan Longoria’s contract is 6 years (2008-2013)/17.5M plus three years of club options for 2014-2016 (7.5M, 11M, 11.5M). He also has some award bonuses (50K for all-star, 25K for GG, 2016 options could increase to 14M depending on MVP vote). From 2008-2011, Longoria has been worth 26.9 WAR while being paid $4M in salary. That comes out to 149K per WAR and also means that Longo has provided $107.6 in surplus value. However, there is still another $13.5M guaranteed. So let’s add that in to Longo’s contract too. That still comes to 650K per WAR with a surplus value of $90.1M.
So between the two, Longo has provided $53.7M more than Cano in surplus value. Is it even possible for Cano to make up that difference during their current contracts? Let’s lay out the most favorable scenario for Cano’s case. Let’s say that Longo suddenly becomes a replacement level player and produces 0 WAR for the next two seasons. We’ve already found that even in that scenario, Longo has still created a surplus value of $90.1M. So what it take for Cano to make up the difference in his two option years?
Cano’s Contract has two club options for 14M and 15M. The numbers above included a $2 buyout for 2012, so we’ll be sure to drop his salary by $2M to compensate. When the Yankees pick up his options, it will cost them another $27M which Cano will also have to make up. Because of inflation, I’m going to assume $5M per WAR going forward, rather than $4M. That means that to match Longo, he’d have to be worth $80.7M in two seasons or just over 8 WAR per season. As a comparison, Jose Bautista was worth 8.3 WAR last season.
So to match Longo’s surplus value, Cano would have to, roughly, double his performance (assuming that Longo would plays at a replacement level). But let’s make it even more favorable to Cano. Let’s say the Rays decided that, even though Longo has been replacement level in 2012 and 2013, they’re going to pick up his option anyway. Then in 2014, wouldn’t you know it, he’s plays at replacement level again. How would that change things? Well, that would still mean that Cano would have to be worth $76.2M in 2012-2013, which would be 7.6 WAR per season.
What if the Rays picked up the 2015 and 2016 options and Longoria still played at replacement level? In that case, Cano would still need to produce 5.4 WAR per season. Cano has played at that level during the last few seasons (4.2, 6.5, and 5.6) and he’s still only 29, so it’s not unrealistic that he could continue that trend. Finally, Longoria has a clause in his contract that ups the 2016 option by $2.5M depending on MVP rankings. So let’s say that Longo (while playing at a replacement level) meets that threshold for MVP votes somehow. Then Cano would only need to be worth 5.1 WAR each season. If I was walking down the street and someone asked me "Hey, do you think that Cano could produce around 10 WAR over the next two seasons?" I’d probably say yes, assuming no major injuries.
Let’s put this whole thing in perspective. In order for Cano’s contract to be more valuable than Longoria’s, Longoria would have to suddenly become a replacement level player, the Rays would have to decide that they want to keep that replacement level player on for another three years at a cost of $27M, and Cano still has to produce over 5 WAR for the next two seasons. So either Jim Bowden thinks very poorly of Longoria, or he can’t do math.
This post was written by a member of the DRaysBay community and does not necessarily express the views or opinions of DRaysBay staff.
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this is a great fanpost
bowden is off his rocker. the Logo deal is so good I’m really surprised he hasn’t complained about it to management.
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Dec 29, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Its a silly comment regardless
I would omit the surplus value earned to date from the analysis though. That has no bearing on the current value of the remaining contract.
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I didn't read the article.
Was it only regarding the remainders of contracts or the entirety of them?
What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 29, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I just skimmed Bowden and looks like he used full length of contract but did not include option years.
Analysis should be remaining years plus options but not being concerned with the past.
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True.
That Bowden piece was pretty awful, especially the part about Price. Price doesn’t really have a “contract” anymore.
Jim Bowden is awful
Every time I read something written by Bowden I feel like I am getting dumber. How he managed to be a professional GM is beyond me. Every article he writes is worse than the next an this one is another example of that. His sources are awful and his hunches are always wrong.
I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume there was some logic to his ranking.
The best I could do was that he was comparing the burden of Cano’s contract on the Yankees overall payroll to Longoria’s on the Rays payroll. I did not read the article (am not a member of that blog), so perhaps he did explain something I haven’t thought of.
Or perhaps he thinks that a high average, power hitting second baseman with varying estimates of is defensive value is significantly more valuable than an excellent defensive third baseman who hits for power and gets on base.
Maybe I should just give up trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
"So either Jim Bowden thinks very poorly of Longoria, or he can’t do math."
I’m not sure he knows how to the do proper conversion of OPSBIs to WAR
i agree with cano being #1 longo is a declining player he barely hit .240 last year
by Dr. Drake Ramoray on Dec 30, 2011 4:13 AM EST reply actions
Cano is a winner
And you can’t put a price tag on winning, nor clutchness. Since Cano won more world series and games during this time, his contract is better.
by Dr Hans Ramoray on Dec 30, 2011 4:34 AM EST up reply actions
Cano is a great player and any team would love to have him...
but i’m not convinced he’s a better player than Longoria and Longo’s contract is amazingly team friendly for a guy on the path to Cooperstown.
Typical ESPN
Catering to their NY audience
Can’t blame them. DRB customers demand objective analysis. ESPN customers demand subjective appeasement
by Ian Moore on Dec 30, 2011 9:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
To be fair, most of the guys who write there are pretty objective.
Bowden is just awful. I’m not sure that is a bias as much a stupidity either.
























