The Rays Tank: Hall of Fame Edition
This is bad, guys. We still have a month and a half to go before pitchers and catchers report, and we're already spending our days talking about increasingly unlikely and ridiculous rumors. Something really needs to happen in the world of baseball or else we all may start getting cabin fever.
Luckily, there's one baseball-related topic we haven't exhausted yet: Hall of Fame voting. Writers have been unveiling their ballots for the past couple weeks, and since results will be unveiled on January 9th, we've entered the final stretch in the voting process.
So who do you think deserves to be voted in? What would your Hall of Fame ballot for this season look like? I'll include some relevant links below the jump.
First of all, here's a list of all the players on the Hall of Fame ballot this season from Beyond the Boxscore. The list is interactive and also includes the player's Weighted WAR (wWAR) total. It's not the be-all-end-all in terms of ranking and judging players, but it should provide a good starting point and surprise you in a couple places.
Next, I recommend reading everything that Joe Posnanski has written regarding the Hall of Fame. He explains his ballot in detail -- the newbies, the returning No's, and the returning Yes's -- and he's the example I always point to of a writer that does the Hall of Fame right. Yes, I agree with almost all of his player arguments, but that's not the reason why I like him so much. Poz does a couple things right that I wish more writers would do:
- He explains his ballot in detail, and it's obvious that he's put lots of time and thought into the ballot. His research is also in depth, and he doesn't leave off at the traditional stats, either.
- He remains internally consistent. If you are a Small Hall guy or Large Hall guy, whatever, that's fine -- just as long as your arguments all mesh and you're not contradicting yourself in places. It's the whole "Don't vote for Morris and then not vote for Blyleven" sort of thing, except this year it's Larkin and Trammel.
- I hate when writers act as the judge, jury, and executioner about steroid rumors, so I appreciate it that he comes out so strong for Jeff Bagwell. I just wish I had his optimism that other voters aren't going on a witch-hunt.
Whenever you get through Poz's 9,000 or so words on the Hall, I also recommend reading Dave Cameron's thoughts on the ballot. He wrote two great posts this week on different issues concerning the ballot: one on career length and the other on Edgar Martinez.
So what say you guys? Who would you vote for? Are there any other writers' ballots we should read? Feel free to pass along more links in the comments.
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Add Mitchell's piece about Olerud yesterday as well
http://mlbdirt.com/2011/12/29/historically-underrated-john-olerud/
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Yes, good call.
Read that and then forgot this morning…thanks.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.
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by Steve Slowinski on Dec 30, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
Yesterday's piece on trading Longoria didn't end well, if that was the basis of
the ‘wants out of Tampa’ rumor that hit the pages
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Nah, that was a rumor that started elsewhere that prompted Jason to look into it and declare it silly.
The guy on Twitter that “broke” the Pujols/Angels news started spouting stuff about Longo wanting a trade and the Rays looking into it. It was nonsense, so thankfully it was put to rest.
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by Steve Slowinski on Dec 30, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
The purpose was twofold
1 – to poke holes in that ridiculousness that was proliferating the #Rays twitterfeed as people took that twit seriously
2 – to show people just how awesome Longoria’s contract is on paper now and how it will continue to be throughout the life of it if he plays as he’s projected to do.
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by Jason Collette on Dec 30, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
Although I do not agree with all his selections and non-selections he does it the right way.
I thought I saw $2 million with $1.4 more in incentives.
Someone not named SandalsNoPants, go fact check this.
What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 30, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Mine
Bagwell, Larkin, Trammel, Raines, and hell, McGwire. Palmeiro would be a yes if not for being a complete jackass. Murphy has always been borderline for me. Great prime, but probably too short.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Dec 30, 2011 4:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Rationally I know I should want Martinez too
But I just can’t
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Dec 30, 2011 4:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
But I don’t think it’s irrational to not put him in.
What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
by QW on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT
by SandalsNoPants on Dec 30, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
your 1st 4 + Edgar and McGriff is mine
I’m indifferent to McGwire & Palmeiro for personal reasons.
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by Jason Collette on Dec 30, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I guess you're not a fan of injecting yourself with personal reasons
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 30, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
McGriff? I'm a little surprised.
My ballot was: Bagwell, Larkin, Raines, McGwire, Palmeiro, Walker, Trammel, Martinez.
























