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Impressive Night For Hayhurst, Guyer, Mayora, and Lobaton

Daniel Mayora dares you to call him Mayora McCheese one more time.

Thanks to rglass44 for summing some stuff up in the thread last night.

AAA -- Durham Bulls 5, Charlotte Knights 2

  • Dirk Hayhurst (1-0) dazzled the crowds tonight in his second start of the season (and of the last few years). He out-dueled a rehabbing Jake Peavy, needing only 75 pitches to go 6 innings deep. His final line for the night: 6 IP, 2 hits (1 being a solo homer), 0 walks, and -- count 'em -- 7 strikeouts. Andy Sonnanstine might not be the go-to 6th starter if this keeps up.
  • Brandon Guyer -- yet another outfielder from that delightful Matt Garza trade -- made Peavy his prison wife, clapping 2 doubles off the man, finishing the night 3 for 4 with a walk.
  • Jose Lobaton has continued his mind-bottling stretch of fine hitting, adding a 4 for 4 evening to the books all singles except for one probably-amazing triple. Surprisingly, Sanchey -- known for his defense -- was "promoted" to the DH and cleanup hitter's spot tonight.
  • Russ Canzler (former Cub farmhand, but not acquired during the trade) went 2 for 3 with a homer.
AA -- Montgomery Biscuits 10, Tennessee Smokies 12
  • Matt Moore in a word: Ouch. Four and a third innings, yet a fistful of hits and runs. The good news is he limited his walks. Can't remember where, but someone suggested maybe the extra hits game from pounding the zone. Let's hope. Moore's final line: 4.1 IP, 10 Hs, 6 ERs, 5 Ks, and 2 HRs.
  • Daniel Mayora, we meet again. Mayora McCheese (the mystery second baseman from Spring Training) fell a homer short of the cycle tonight, going 3 for 4 (1 single, 1 double, and 1 triple). Apparently we got McCheese from the Rockies this off-season. Here's something Marc Hulet said about him in 2009:

    Two more infielders, Hector Gomez and Daniel Mayora, are being talked about in the Rockies system... Mayora is less athletic and lacks the first-step quickness needed to be a stolen-base threat or to play shortstop regularly. He was left unprotected in the Rule 5 draft despite a career .297 average and potential above-average power for a middle infielder.

    Ooh. Thrilling.
  • Matt Sweeney said, "I'mabe the next great True Outcome Man," going 0 for 2 with 2 strikeouts and 3 walks. He was a homer shy of the Three True Outcome cycle.
  • Tim Beckham joined a number of his multi-hit comrades, collecting a double while going 2 for 5 with a steal.

Star-divide

A+ -- Charlotte Stone Crabs 5, Palm Beach Cardinals 4 (in a dramatic 10th inning finish)

  • Alex Colome had, eh, a day. He went 6 innings, but allowed 3 ER on 3 hits, 3 walks, and a homer, striking out 4 batsmen.
  • Brett Nommensen went 1 for 3 with a pair of walks.
  • Michael Sheridan added a pair of singles and a walk, but the only extra base hit came from Tyler Bortnick's bat -- a double off the starter, Shelby Mills.
A -- Bowling Green Hot Rods 2, Fort Wayne TinCaps 3 (TinCaps?!)
  • Eh, not much to see here. Jake Blackwood went 2 for 3 with double. Jose Dore (a 19-year-old outfielder) went 1 for 4 with a triple.
  • There were a combined 5 errors and 3 un-earned runs in this game.

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At this time last year in A+

His walk rate was 4.4% and his K rate north of 30%. Its not a bad start and he should hopefully adjust to the level and see his rato improve.

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 14, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I'm saying is it's his first two weeks at a new level

It should improve over the season. He’s improved year/year for the same calender month which is likely a good way to analyze it.

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 14, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, it's two weeks into the season.

It’s way too early to make any kind of statement about his plate discipline.

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by Suttree on Apr 14, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nevertheless, I checked

In 26 plate appeareance so far this season, Beckham is averaging 4.27 pitches per PA. Just for comparison (a worthless one maybe), last season in the majors, Bobby Abreu was at 4.30 pitches/PA, good for 6th in the MLB.

I don’t think he’s doing bad at all in terms of plate discipline.

by Ben Tumbling on Apr 14, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canzler indeed has become my new fringy player of choice

TPR post should be coming soon. 3rd best ISO in the Southern league last year out of nowhere. Teammate of Guyer and Chirinos. Same age as Guyer, two younger than Chirinos. Power in intriguing. More walks less Ks than Rhyne Hughes.

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 14, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Let me know when the post is up, I'll link to it on the front page and bump the rest of this stuff way down

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "rape trial program substances"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 14, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

*is not actually going to do that*

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "rape trial program substances"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 14, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

TGN with an agenda

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 14, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's cool, why would you pay attention to baseball?

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "rape trial program substances"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 14, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Minor league pitching is literally the only thing this team has going for it, you think maybe you'd give a bit more of a F

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "rape trial program substances"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 14, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's just to fill a need.

Richard De Los Santos and Edgar Gonzalez are in the rotation too, after all.

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found this nuggest from Matt Eddy

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2011/04/sights-from-spring-training-in-southwest-florida/

Speaking of Beckham, the 2008 No. 1 overall pick carried forth his positive conditioning habits from last season into this year. Though he’s not a burner, he looks more like a shortstop than he did in ’08 or ’09, and the Rays believe he has the tools to stick at the position.

Tampa Bay gave B.J. Upton ample time to work through his issues at shortstop, and while that ultimately proved fruitless, the organization’s patience does provide a template for how they may develop Beckham. The two players feature different strengths, however. Upton drew raves for his speed, strike-zone management and surprising power, tools that have served him well as a big league center fielder. Beckham’s strongest tools are above-average power and arm strength, giving him more of a third base/right field profile if he doesn’t pan out at shortstop.

There’s other nice nuggets regarding Matt Moore, De La Rosa, Thompson, and Sweeney
Scroll to Monday, March 27

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 14, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

What time would we be looking at Beckham arriving in MLB?

Because if Longoria’s still here and Beckham has to move, wouldn’t it make more sense to move him to 2B?

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by Suttree on Apr 14, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

They can take their time

No reason to feel pressure from the #1 pedigree to rush him up. If he ends up off SS, let him really develop as a hitter in AAA.

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 14, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Beckham is at least 3 years away

unless he drastically improves.

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by Sveet on Apr 14, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have to be on the 25-man until 2017.

At which point he could play 3B, Longo would be gone, and he’d be 26.

by rglass44 on Apr 14, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

2016 rather.

So he’d be 26 and it would be Longo’s last year.

by rglass44 on Apr 14, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

4 years is a lot of time in AA and AAA

But whatever. Trades and the like are always a possibility. A lot happens in 4 years that cannot be predicted

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by FreeZorilla on Apr 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Not saying it will happen, just saying that’s the timeframe. I still think, like Chirinos, if he can’t stick at SS catcher may be an option. He’s got the strong arm and build (shorter, stockier base).

by rglass44 on Apr 14, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he is still in the minors in 2015

That’s probably not a good sign

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by Sveet on Apr 14, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, like it's been said, we have no need to rush him, so why not let him gel?

Brignac has SS locked down for at least the next two-three years.

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by Suttree on Apr 14, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is a long long time to be in the high minors

5 years???

If he is any good he will not be in the minors in 2015 barring injury

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by Sveet on Apr 14, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leslie is garbage.

Seriously though, the guys who called him a “prospect” have thankfully cooled down. Mediocre bat speed without much power. Guys who love milb numbers need to get over it.

by mr. maniac on Apr 14, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT, but I just noticed the O's have Machado and Gyvens both in Low A.

Gyvens is struggling at the plate and playing 2B. Not sure why they feel the need to be aggressive in putting him with Machado. Pretty big waste for a SS that throws 90+ off the mound to play 2B.

by rglass44 on Apr 14, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Guyer will be the starting LF'er next season for the Rays

And if Jennings can stay healthy and productive through the first half of AAA, I think BJ is moved at the deadline(If the Rays are out )and the Rays have their CF’er for the foreseeeable future.

by budman3 on Apr 14, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

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