A Review of Rays Plate Discipline After One Week
Obviously it's been a rough week for the Rays at the plate and even more obvious is how foolhardy it is to pluck anything of meaning from the data that we've seen so far. Nothing that has happened should be indicative of what to expect going forward. That doesn't mean that we can't look at some things that have happened and get an idea of what's out of whack. For this I'm using the Fangraphs Plate Discipline percentages including all games through April 7, 2011. For the first part, let's look at team percentages as well as rankings through the first six or seven games:
Green is good, red is bad, and yellow is somewhere in the middle if you prefer visual cues over the numbers on the right-hand side. A quick breakdown:
- The Rays are 4th in not swinging at pitches out of the zone (Very Good)
- The Rays are 7th in swinging at pitches within the zone (Good)
- The Rays are 18th in overall swinging (Middle of the pack as far as likelihood to swing)
- The Rays are 24th in making contact on a pitches outside of the zone (Not Good)
- The Rays are 29th in making contact on pitches within the strike zone (Very Bad)
- The Rays are 30th in making contact overall (The Worst)
- The Rays are seeing the 10th most pitches within the strike zone
- The Rays are seeing the 2nd most first-pitch strikes
-The Rays are 30th in Swing Strike%
So the Rays are taking a lot of pitches, especially out of the zone, but they're also seeing a ton of strikes, especially first pitch. When they do make up their mind to swing, they're missing everything, in and out of the zone. The lack of contact and high rates of whiffing go hand in hand, but they are no friend of mine. It's pretty ugly, and though I thought we were swinging too much as a team, apparently we're not swinging enough. However, the lack of contact is much more of an issue in my mind. Let's take a look at the individual players:
The left-hand side shows what has happened so far in a handful of plate appearances for each guy. On the right you can see what these guys have done in their careers. The totals at the bottom are weighted by plate appearances and you will notice that the totals for the left-side match up perfectly with the team totals above. You can look at individual players, but it's basically meaningless to think that what has happened will continue all year. What I'm more concerned with is comparing the totals.
You can see that the Rays are swinging at roughly 3% more pitches out of the zone than they've demonstrated and making about 2% less contact when they do swing at these pitches. Within the zone, they're actually swinging at 4% more pitches, but making 4% less contact. Overall, they're swinging at 4% more pitches than they've shown over their long and short careers, while making 2% more contact. They're seeing the same amount of pitches within the zone, but on first pitches, they're seeing 7% more strikes than throughout their careers. Lastly, they're whiffing 3% more than they've demonstrated throughout their careers.
Our Modus Operandi for the last few years has been to take a lot of pitches and get into bullpens as early as possible. Cliff Lee wrote the blueprint on how to beat us on national television last year over two games of the ALDS last October and it looks like the guys we've faced so far were taking notes. We're seeing a ton of strikes on first pitch and other, better writers have noted how bad it is to get behind in the count. I've always been a proponent of key-holing a pitch until you've got two-strikes. I think that's subtly different from taking first pitch no matter where it is, and I would like to see us get into that mindset more of hitting the first pitch fastball if it's in your wheelhouse. Pitchers will stop throwing first pitch fastballs only after we start punishing them for doing so. It's a delicate balance, but this team has shown a pretty decent eye on what's a ball and what's a strike, but if they hope to make more contact they need to be swinging at the pitches that they can drive, not constantly fighting off pitcher's pitches.
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really like what you did here, its extremely insightful.
But, maybe use more bullet points for clarity sake?
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by Suttree on Apr 9, 2011 12:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Captain loves dots
@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide
by Sandy Kazmir on Apr 9, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Good look, Sandy.
A couple of thoughts: S-Rod needs to start swinging, DanJo isn’t doing too bad after all (just not making contact), and Shoppach sucks.
I wasn't sure which way to run with that so just picked one, with the gradient you get the idea, but you're right that I should have mentioned it
@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide
I also don't mind a low O Contact% as BIP usually will result in outs
Obviously whiffing w/ 2 strikes is anohter story. O Swing% is more important IMO.
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My larger point was about sitting on a pitch and if you get it mash it
Straight up taking every pitch is just as foolish as going up there swinging at every first pitch just because you’re getting a strike. Dan got one he could do something with and made Thorny pay. Love it.
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was that a fastball or just a hanging slider?
I remember commenting last night that Thornton had thrown all fastballs up to that point and them blammo
by Jason Collette on Apr 9, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the Jaso effect
As I’ve said before, Jaso is the perfect example of what the league has figured out. If you get ahead of them with first pitch strikes, you own the at bat. Jaso is by far the most disciplined hitter on the Rays. He also has the best contact rate But he also has been the least aggressive on first pitches.. Pitchers found out last season that he becomes less of an OBP guy(his forte) if the threw him a first pitch strike, knowing he would not swing. Jaso knew this as well. Again this year, he is seeing 81% first pitch strikes but to his credit he seems to be going after more first pitch strikes. Unfortunately, Jaso may not be a good enough hitter(contact or not) to take advantage of what he knows pitchers are doing to him.
But the thought process is there, it seems and other Rays hitters need to become more aggressive as well, early in the count. The contacts rate seem fine enough, especially on strikes. The problem is when you are constantly behind in the count, you are put into a defensive position and often are caught guessing at pitches or just attempting to make any sort of contact to stay in the at bat. The resulting weak swings , are leading to soft ground balls, pop ups and lazy fly balls.
The league has adjusted to the Rays and now they need to re-adjust to them. But it’s not just going up there looking for fastballs. Pitchers are too smart for that. Ben Zobrist can tell you that he rarely gets a hittable fastball anymore, especially early in the count. Rays hitters need to look for strikes as soon as they get to the plate but hit the ball where it is pitched. No use trying to pull an outside corner strike, unless you want to ground out weakly somewhere. It takes an aggressive but intelligent approach to a pitcher for them to get back on track, IMO.

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